like a state or a religion or anything with commonly shared rules. The heart of religion (spirituality) supercedes morality. I don't think the core of religion is morality so I don't think the ultimate offering of religion to a society is morality. Religion, at its core, is a group of people engaged in a communal practice of worship. There is something in many (I would say all) that yearns for the Divine. True religion is about communion with each other and the Divine. That's basically it. Whatever morality comes out of that (and there is certainly an ethical component) is sort of superfluous. As an act of worship, the morality of religion is not superfluous, but as the acts themselves, they are sort of beside the point. If a religion becomes primarily about morality, it ceases to be primarily spiritual and becomes basically a group of people who have some authority define morals/ethics for them and then they all go out and march lockstep to the drumbeat of the day. That's kinda frightening. If that is chill's definition of religion, then it's hard not to agree with him.