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The 10 commandments of rational debate Beachmaster 12/30/2018 - 5:02 p.m.
Media Bias Chart Flea 1/30/2018 - 12:07 a.m.
Mud, Please pin this link. InvestiGator 6/5/2017 - 10:36 p.m.

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Just when you think people can't get any worse. Inspector Vol 6/17/2019 - 11:36 a.m.

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Via The Bulwark... GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 11:34 a.m. Edited by Author on 6/17/2019 - 11:38 a.m.

Edited by Author on 6/17/2019 - 11:38 a.m.

And more from Charlie Sykes... GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 11:37 a.m.

RE: And more from Charlie Sykes... Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 11:42 a.m.

RE: And more from Charlie Sykes... GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 11:45 a.m.

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Breaking news from the SCOTUS. No detailed info available yet. Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 11:02 a.m. Edited by Author on 6/17/2019 - 11:05 a.m.

Edited by Author on 6/17/2019 - 11:05 a.m.

VA gerrymandering case decided. Rs lack standing, existing maps to be used. No ruling on merit. Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 11:23 a.m.

Sidwell Friends discrimination claims case denied cert. * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 11:25 a.m.

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Why the world does not know us. Inspector Vol 6/17/2019 - 10:22 a.m.

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addiction crisis disguised as housing crisis

Boggy Creek Gator 6/17/2019 - 8:04 a.m.

Of course it plays a role in that, maybe the largest. Alcoholism, drugs and mental illness Inspector Vol 6/17/2019 - 9:40 a.m.

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Putin must feel like Nicholas I in 1854 after the latter bailed out the Hapsburg in 1848 Boggy Creek Gator 6/17/2019 - 7:59 a.m.

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This is farking hilarious and revealing...1. he thinks he's filming a realty TV show, he really Native 6/17/2019 - 6:39 a.m.

RE: This is farking hilarious and revealing...1. he thinks he's filming a realty TV show, he really iPhoneHobbes 6/17/2019 - 7:37 a.m.

RE: This is farking hilarious and revealing...1. he thinks he's filming a realty TV show, he really Flea 6/17/2019 - 11:47 a.m.

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American shoe company New Balance rips Trump's tariffs on Chinese goods. .Will cripple NB. . . .

Top Cat 6/17/2019 - 5:03 a.m.

"American" shoe company hurt by tariffs on Chinese goods.*. * GordonDawg 6/17/2019 - 9:58 a.m.

I thought their USP claim was that they were made in America. * humpgator 6/17/2019 - 8:27 a.m.

Only about 25% of NB. Most sneakers are made in Vietnam, China, Malaysia, Philippines. * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 9:34 a.m.

Wait, I thought NB was the preferred brand of the right, so this can't possibly be true! * Native 6/17/2019 - 6:03 a.m.

Where the hell did you hear that? They're as NE liberal as any brand in existence. * UFNY 6/17/2019 - 8:46 a.m.

NB is my preferred brand for the bizarre reason that they fit me better... am I a republican? * trash 6/17/2019 - 7:57 a.m.

Ahhh, another wide footer like me.... * 10EC 6/17/2019 - 9:25 a.m.

umm...”wide winger” 😎 * Mississippi Vol 6/17/2019 - 10:21 a.m.

I like Merrell. Can order wide widths in that too. Best hiking type shoe I have had. Inspector Vol 6/17/2019 - 9:43 a.m.

I don't need a wide width, and I agree. Merrell Moab is the best hiking shoe I've owned. * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 9:48 a.m.

Congrats! UFNY 6/17/2019 - 9:48 a.m.

Great sneakers, frequently recommended by podiatrists. * GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 9:28 a.m.

Actually, my husband likes them too, but it was a self-identifying thing with the MAGA crowd * Native 6/17/2019 - 9:11 a.m.

My nephew calls them "the official shoe of the middle aged". * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 9:21 a.m.

Middle Ages. Fixed that for you. I'm speaking from experience. * GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 9:29 a.m.

They are. It'll be interesting to see how/if they grow their business over time. UFNY 6/17/2019 - 9:28 a.m.

He likes everything about Nike, except their glue doesn't hold up and the soles peel away Native 6/17/2019 - 9:27 a.m.

I don't like the fit of Nikes, and also the laces suck. Adidas fits me better. * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 9:32 a.m.

RE: I don't like the fit of Nikes, and also the laces suck. Adidas fits me better. J.M. 6/17/2019 - 9:41 a.m.

I don't wear white shoes, no matter who makes them. * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 9:44 a.m.

RE: Same. I wear adidas. But white shoes draw attention to my clown feet. * J.M. 6/17/2019 - 9:46 a.m.

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Uncle Joe and electability Native 6/16/2019 - 11:29 p.m.

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Forget "no collusion", Donnie is now pro-collusion Native 6/16/2019 - 11:22 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/16/2019 - 11:24 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/16/2019 - 11:24 p.m.

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Chuck Todd is so very bad at his job, this should result in termination, except he's NBC's Native 6/16/2019 - 8:35 p.m.

He does not think quickly on his feet, and sometimes guests take full advantage of it. * GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 9:17 p.m.

He is the poster child (IMO) of how the media helped elect Trump. He seems to seek that balance of trash 6/17/2019 - 2:51 a.m.

Exactly, people like Todd actually misinform the public by their attempts to appear balanced * Native 6/17/2019 - 6:02 a.m.

Yes, truly the Peter Principle in action * Native 6/16/2019 - 9:22 p.m.

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Donnie dumps his polling firm after dismal polling numbers released Native 6/16/2019 - 8:12 p.m.

There's no accountability: Donnie and his criminal underlings willing to act with impunity Native 6/16/2019 - 8:16 p.m.

Pointing out his criminality is why he will get re-elected. trash 6/16/2019 - 10:48 p.m.

Yes, it will somehow force people to vote for him, or so I hear. * Beachmaster 6/17/2019 - 9:23 a.m.

RE: There's no accountability: Donnie and his criminal underlings willing to act with impunity Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 9:30 p.m.

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Pete Buttigieg on MTP via Politico.. GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 6:46 p.m.

Buttigieg: Trump's immigration approach backward Native 6/16/2019 - 8:06 p.m.

100% spot on for both points * Dawgspeare 6/17/2019 - 9:36 a.m.

"When they're killing you here, better to die in the desert." * Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 9:31 p.m.

I just saw him on Axios. My impression was that he was a lightweight. He also tries to to hard.... GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 6:50 p.m.

Wait...you are criticizing someone for trolling too much? That is rich. * UGADawginVA 6/16/2019 - 8:49 p.m.

Very impressed when I hear him speak. * studegator 6/16/2019 - 7:07 p.m.

He's not ready for big leagues. Minor league talent, AA is his ceiling. * GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 7:11 p.m.

Says the guys whose cult leader won with an assist from Vlad, Comey and the rest of the white males * Native 6/17/2019 - 6:26 a.m.

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Donnie says his supporters might "demand" he serve more than two terms Native 6/16/2019 - 5:42 p.m.

He was supposed to manufacture a crisis to stop the midterm elections, too, if I remember correctly. * Flea 6/16/2019 - 8:53 p.m.

I heard that each of the last three presidents before Trump were going to suspend elections 🤷 * Mississippi Vol 6/17/2019 - 10:16 a.m.

I'm still waiting for a bet on suspending the 2020 election. * UFNY 6/17/2019 - 7:27 a.m.

Foresight is only 2020 * Thunder 6/17/2019 - 7:31 a.m.

The TDS has actually become quite entertaining. CT's abound. Kind of like Trump, in many respects * MichiGator 6/16/2019 - 9:23 p.m.

IKR? He is completely in the heads of the left. Fun to watch and read ridiculous posts here. * BelmontGator 6/16/2019 - 10:54 p.m.

Please explain how it's a CT when it's Trump saying this and more than once. * GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 9:25 p.m.

As noted within days following his election, if people are going to figuratively run around with MichiGator 6/17/2019 - 2:55 a.m.

Exactly. He's not a dictator.... UFNY 6/17/2019 - 7:30 a.m.

It's always comes back to money. * Inspector Vol 6/17/2019 - 8:32 a.m.

The mocking dismissal and skepticism is eerily similar to the reaction here when it first became Native 6/16/2019 - 9:45 p.m.

Well, obvious to those still looking for ponies. * MichiGator 6/17/2019 - 11:26 a.m.

Difference is this is Trump (repeatedly) saying it, not people speculating on what Trump MIGHT do. * GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 9:18 p.m.

Quick Google search... Flea 6/17/2019 - 8:35 a.m.

Again... GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 8:43 a.m.

His disregard and lack of knowledge of the Constitution is not in question. Flea 6/17/2019 - 8:48 a.m.

Addendum... GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 9:03 a.m.

On the list of "problems", IMO that's way down the list. GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 8:53 a.m.

I agree, and my describing it as a "problem" wasn't accurate, as I was just echoing your diction. Flea 6/17/2019 - 9:08 a.m.

RE: I agree, and my describing it as a "problem" wasn't accurate, as I was just echoing your diction GatorDJ 6/17/2019 - 9:13 a.m.

Thanks for getting it. We're already way past a lot of things that people said would never happen * Native 6/17/2019 - 9:18 a.m.

And, you really can't be too paranoid with these shamless criminals in charge * Native 6/16/2019 - 9:20 p.m.

Obama haters used to say similar things. * Mudlizard 6/16/2019 - 6:33 p.m.

Jade Helm, black helicopters, etc. More or less a constant theme. * Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 9:45 p.m.

Just the crazies, I think. * Inspector Vol 6/16/2019 - 8:30 p.m.

Yes, except as I pointed out, O never gave any indication he'd defy the Consitution Native 6/16/2019 - 7:18 p.m.

RE: Donnie says his supporters might "demand" he serve more than two terms peabody hall 6/16/2019 - 6:15 p.m.

But what's not funny... GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 6:49 p.m.

Rolling Stone: Trump loves to say he may not leave after two terms and it's dangerous Native 6/16/2019 - 8:02 p.m.

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Representative Matt Gaetz rips the Dems John Dean circus (link)..... GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 3:45 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/16/2019 - 3:52 p.m.

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He is an a hole but a terrific smart orator and he peabody hall 6/16/2019 - 6:32 p.m.

You misspelled “shameless sycophant” * trash 6/16/2019 - 10:51 p.m.

He is a tool..who likes to drink and drive a lot. * UGADawginVA 6/16/2019 - 8:10 p.m.

I know right, the fact that he's being touted as a rising star in the GOP tells you everything Native 6/16/2019 - 8:20 p.m.

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Democrats’ Hypocrisy on ‘Foreign Interference’ (link)..... GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 3:21 p.m.

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Free Speech Warrior calls for citizenship to be stripped for flag burning. Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 2:05 p.m.

Everything old is new again! GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 3:57 p.m.

Although I don’t think much qualifies as settled law, I give a resounding AMEN * DurangoGator 6/16/2019 - 5:10 p.m.

RE: Everything old is new again! Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 4:45 p.m.

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Saving face How Donald Trump silenced the people who could expose his business failures

UGADawginVA 6/16/2019 - 1:02 p.m.

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India increases tariffs on US imports. #Winning!!. . Top Cat 6/16/2019 - 11:05 a.m.

RE: India increases tariffs on US imports. #Winning!!. . Mississippi Vol 6/17/2019 - 10:13 a.m.

Only the best tariffs! * UGADawginVA 6/16/2019 - 1:02 p.m.

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That time when Judge TS Ellis foiled a secret ICE attempt to illegally kidnap and deport someone Native 6/16/2019 - 10:13 a.m.

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A very good read from the WaPo...

GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 9:07 a.m. Starred by 2 People

Starred by 2 People

Good stuff. It ain't your father's Forsyth any more. * Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 2:28 p.m.

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All the president's lying ladies - Huck, Conway and Hopie Native 6/16/2019 - 7:51 a.m.

RE: All the president's lying ladies - Huck, Conway and Hopie Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 8:12 a.m.

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GOP is disarray with debt ceiling, budget negotiations threatening shutdown

Native 6/16/2019 - 7:26 a.m.

Oh, the Szucker Post...nevermind. * g8rdome 6/16/2019 - 11:03 a.m.

Substantive and convincing rebuttal! * Native 6/16/2019 - 11:05 a.m.

Mitch keeps confirming judges. That is the right path. * GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 9:11 a.m.

Record deficits...yeah!! Just wait until the Dems get the Senate and there is an R Prez... UGADawginVA 6/16/2019 - 12:58 p.m.

Dems have decoupled from the rural states. There will never be another D majority in senate. * GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 3:17 p.m.

RE: GOP is disarray with debt ceiling, budget negotiations threatening shutdown Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 8:40 a.m.

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Pentagon, intel officals are afraid to brief Donnie on anti-Russian cyber operations because Native 6/16/2019 - 7:14 a.m.

Tom Nichols' take... GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 9:13 a.m.

He's not wrong * Native 6/16/2019 - 9:15 a.m.

Not right either...unnamed (made up, or bias) crap....typical MSM drivel g8rdome 6/16/2019 - 11:07 a.m.

I'm guessing you don't know who Tom Nichols is... GatorDJ 6/16/2019 - 3:57 p.m.

RE: I'm guessing you don't know who Tom Nichols is... Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 4:48 p.m.

Only the Trumpies dont believe it..because they are told not to...and they obey Dear Leader. * UGADawginVA 6/16/2019 - 1:04 p.m.

Please tell me that I do not have to explain again the concept of civilian control of the military. GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 9:10 a.m.

RE: Please tell me that I do not have to explain again the concept of civilian control of the milita Top Cat 6/16/2019 - 11:07 a.m.

RE: Please tell me that I do not have to explain again the concept of civilian control of the milit Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 11:23 a.m.

Again, Donnie has disclosed US intelligence to our enemies, so spare me your BS response * Native 6/16/2019 - 9:14 a.m.

RE: Pentagon, intel officals are afraid to brief Donnie on anti-Russian cyber operations because Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 8:42 a.m.

RE: Pentagon, intel officals are afraid to brief Donnie on anti-Russian cyber operations because Native 6/16/2019 - 9:10 a.m.

RE: Pentagon, intel officals are afraid to brief Donnie on anti-Russian cyber operations because Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 11:28 a.m.

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MississippiVol. I did not forget you. This is my rambling response. GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 3:47 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/15/2019 - 4:07 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/15/2019 - 4:07 p.m.

Thank you for taking the time to provide a response. As I’ve moved to a virtual keyboard, long Mississippi Vol 6/17/2019 - 10:03 a.m.

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Bottom Half Lost $900 Billion Studegator 6/15/2019 - 12:53 p.m.

Rep Jayapal has Bezos and Gates as very visable and dominant forces in her state. GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 3:21 p.m.

Sure... * g8rdome 6/15/2019 - 1:58 p.m.

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Dems' Selective Outrage Over Foreign-Sourced Oppo Research on Full Display (link).... GordonDawg 6/15/2019 - 11:12 a.m.

Pure horse sheet, as usual. Top Cat 6/16/2019 - 11:09 a.m.

This one must really have your side worried! Me thinks thou doth protest too much. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 2:03 p.m.

First clue is the ongoing attempt to mis-label it as Opp. Research. What Trump trash 6/15/2019 - 4:46 p.m.

Only collusion was with Dem, everybody but twittersphere gets that * g8rdome 6/15/2019 - 5:56 p.m.

You should read the report and rethink your BS claim. Simply not true on either count * trash 6/15/2019 - 6:31 p.m.

“If it's what you say I love it especially later in the summer.” * trash 6/16/2019 - 6:19 a.m.

He didn't collude, but if someone gives him another opportunity, he'd totally do it again! * Native 6/16/2019 - 7:57 a.m.

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Los Angeles homeless crisis - an aerial view:

Mississippi Vol 6/15/2019 - 9:57 a.m.

Liberal utiopia. * GordonDawg 6/15/2019 - 10:05 a.m.

What would you do with the poor of America? * Top Cat 6/16/2019 - 11:10 a.m.

My hospital is the "county" hospital. UW has the contract to manage it GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 1:52 p.m.

It’s the result of 35 years of trickle down voodoo economics that’s gutted blue collar America * dudehead 6/15/2019 - 10:22 p.m.

Seattle -- San Francisco -- Los Angeles -- Portland are definitely governed by democrats * GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 10:36 a.m.

two things can be true. 1 trickle down did not work 2 those cities have a proud D tradition * GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 2:23 p.m.

Proud???????? GordonDawg 6/16/2019 - 3:19 p.m.

RE: It’s the result of 35 years of trickle down voodoo economics that’s gutted blue collar America Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 9:07 a.m.

Of course it must be due to racism, isn't everything? Well, maybe except when it's the Russians, MichiGator 6/16/2019 - 10:28 a.m.

If that were the case it’d be happening everywhere. UFNY 6/16/2019 - 7:15 a.m.

It is happening everywhere but the homeless are GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 1:41 p.m.

And if a community is willing to accomodate such an influx, that is fine. As with most things, MichiGator 6/16/2019 - 2:34 p.m.

It's not happening everywhere. UFNY 6/16/2019 - 1:51 p.m.

Well based on my experience there are many more of them in places where it never GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 2:00 p.m.

You don't have much experience then. Anchorage has a severe homeless problem. BelmontGator 6/16/2019 - 9:55 p.m.

Come to Denver in the winter and walk down the Platte River between Sheridan and Alameda DurangoGator 6/16/2019 - 2:54 p.m.

I think there is more than one contributing factor, but you are correct that if it was simply MichiGator 6/16/2019 - 10:04 a.m.

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Shouldn’t all votes be recorded?

Mississippi Vol 6/15/2019 - 9:35 a.m.

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Stuart Stevens on the difference between legal oppo research and accepting stolen foreign intel Native 6/15/2019 - 9:16 a.m.

RE: Stuart Stevens on the difference between legal oppo research and accepting stolen foreign intel Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:43 a.m.

I love it when he talks dirty to me like that! * Native 6/15/2019 - 10:56 a.m.

RE: I love it when he talks dirty to me like that! Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 12:08 p.m.

RE: Stuart Stevens on the difference between legal oppo research and accepting stolen foreign intel Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:36 a.m.

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Something something civilty...from the Brevard GOP chair Native 6/15/2019 - 8:04 a.m.

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About those tanker attacks: I agree with this HOT TAEK Hobbes 6/15/2019 - 7:45 a.m. A HOF Post

A HOF Post

Starred by 5 People

And the sinking of the Maine. * Wayne 6/17/2019 - 9:07 a.m.

Sadly, people I would believe over Trump's sycophants lurch 6/15/2019 - 12:32 p.m.

RE: About those tanker attacks: I agree with this HOT TAEK Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:52 a.m.

That is BS. People doubted the chemical attacks in Syria when Obama was POTUS also. * GordonDawg 6/15/2019 - 10:31 a.m.

I think the attack occurred. And was by IRCG navy (which is to the Iranian Navy as the Waffen SS was Hobbes 6/15/2019 - 12:39 p.m.

RE: I think the attack occurred. And was by IRCG navy (which is to the Iranian Navy as the Waffen SS Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 6:32 p.m.

The Drumpf Who Cried Wolf... DaZeD 6/15/2019 - 9:42 a.m.

I was thinking more Reichstag.... * 10EC 6/15/2019 - 8:49 a.m.

DB's Chris Dickey has a column that is probably 100% accurate: Gulf Tanker Whodunit Native 6/15/2019 - 7:55 a.m.

RE: DB's Chris Dickey has a column that is probably 100% accurate: Gulf Tanker Whodunit Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:12 a.m.

RE: About those tanker attacks: I agree with this HOT TAEK Hobbes 6/15/2019 - 7:47 a.m.

I picture john bolton with a battleship board in his office, sitting there, giggling excitedly BBG 6/15/2019 - 7:56 a.m.

This line from the Chris Dickey article is a perfect description: "ready to fight to the last Native 6/15/2019 - 8:16 a.m.

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Your so-called librul media Native 6/14/2019 - 9:16 p.m.

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Migrant detention center outside of El Paso, Tx - men being described kept in "a human dog pound" Native 6/14/2019 - 8:59 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 9:00 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 9:00 p.m.

In May, we apprehended the equivalent of 3 people per minute, 24 hours a day, the entire month. MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 9:49 a.m.

No. Not good enough. Nothing you typed 3rdWardGator 6/15/2019 - 10:21 a.m.

Then Congress should get off its ass and fund the resources to handle this crisis. MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 10:45 a.m.

So Mitch M. can refuse to bring it up in the Senate? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 2:06 p.m.

That might turn out to be true. Regardless, it is the coward's excuse if one truly cares about the MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 2:12 p.m.

Might? Mitch isn't letting any D House majority proposals get to the Senate floor. * GatorDJ 6/15/2019 - 3:41 p.m.

Okay. Are you suggesting that using this "fact" is an excuse to be cowardly? Or is it a tacit MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 4:47 p.m.

Insanity is doing the same thing over and over again expecting a different result. GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 4:57 p.m.

Understood. BUT ... that means we shouldn't hear any more about how it is only the fault of MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 9:20 p.m.

I still think Mitch deserves the blame for the current legislative mess. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 12:21 a.m.

RE: I still think Mitch deserves the blame for the current legislative mess. Beachmaster 6/16/2019 - 11:29 a.m.

Something here for everyone... GatorDJ 6/15/2019 - 4:56 p.m.

Actually, there is nothing in there which addresses the current crisis at all. Nothing. MichiGator 6/16/2019 - 11:03 a.m.

Appropriation bills originate in the House chemosabe 6/15/2019 - 2:36 p.m.

RE: Appropriation bills originate in the House MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 2:58 p.m.

Should be done like that every stinking time and let the chips fall where they may. Inspector Vol 6/15/2019 - 5:11 p.m.

They're not scared of the job, they're scared of losing the job. All else is secondary. * UFNY 6/15/2019 - 5:38 p.m.

That is good to a point. Can't let it cripple you into not doing the job though. Inspector Vol 6/15/2019 - 6:00 p.m.

Not sure if serious. UFNY 6/15/2019 - 6:07 p.m.

I'm serious. I have my own ideals and they all disappoint me. It's why I always bothside stuff. * Inspector Vol 6/15/2019 - 6:21 p.m.

Got it. And they def do. UFNY 6/15/2019 - 6:53 p.m.

Exactly. * Inspector Vol 6/15/2019 - 1:32 p.m.

Then Pelosi needs to hold impeachment proceedings Thunder 6/15/2019 - 8:29 a.m.

RE: Migrant detention center outside of El Paso, Tx - men being described kept in "a human dog pound J.M. 6/15/2019 - 7:53 a.m.

Interesting that, per Rep. Escobar, most of the men in this article were CUBAN. * MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 10:06 a.m.

RE: Interesting that, per Rep. Escobar, most of the men in this article were CUBAN. J.M. 6/15/2019 - 10:41 a.m.

When waves of illegal immigrants, in numbers never before seen at our southern border, MichiGator 6/14/2019 - 10:13 p.m.

How are asylum-seekers at points of entry illegals? * Dawgspeare 6/14/2019 - 11:23 p.m.

They aren't, of course. In fact, THE LAW requires them to be physically present in the US Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:24 a.m.

As you say, "so ignorant". Simply read what has been posted and you would see the acknowledgement MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 10:48 a.m.

Technically, they are not. However, they contribute to the wave of those apprehended which MichiGator 6/14/2019 - 11:55 p.m.

I don't know what the solution is. But with the full power of the US government I am 100% trash 6/14/2019 - 10:48 p.m.

Last I checked 3rdWardGator 6/15/2019 - 10:24 a.m.

Of course we can do better. However, the "better" requires resources not currently available. MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 10:55 a.m.

RE: Last I checked Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:29 a.m.

Not unprecedented? CPB statistics indicate over 132,000 apprehensions in May 2019. The MichiGator 6/14/2019 - 11:50 p.m.

No, high, but not unprecedented trash 6/15/2019 - 5:44 a.m.

It is understandable to think that applying for asylum while in their home countries is not MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 9:00 a.m.

Carthage, Mississippi GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 2:15 p.m.

RE: Carthage, Mississippi MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 2:55 p.m.

The town square used to be a vibrant small town with the Courthouse in the Square vibe. GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 3:08 p.m.

First, I am a proponent of immigration. I agree that the story you related is replicated, many MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 2:47 p.m.

Very reasonable response! So like abortion we have to figure out a number that pisses off the GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 3:14 p.m.

Difficult, imo, only from the perspective of reaching agreement or concensus. Certainly all of MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 3:28 p.m.

IMHO The size of our country means we can accept more than have come so far GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 4:00 p.m.

We should accept what we need, and no more. * UFNY 6/15/2019 - 5:38 p.m.

And how to deal with those already here? GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 7:05 p.m.

RE: And how to deal with those already here? UFNY 6/15/2019 - 7:37 p.m.

That just takes me back to the board. Is that what you intended? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 7:56 p.m.

I can't ever get those post links right. Supposed to go to Michi's "Not unprecedented" post. * UFNY 6/15/2019 - 8:30 p.m.

Again how many is that? How many to reunite families? How many with needed skills? GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 7:03 p.m.

Any bottleneck is being created by MANY more people attempting to come into our country than is MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 4:50 p.m.

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Barr's DOJ is a rogue agency - not only are they blocking the lawful release of Trump's taxes, check Native 6/14/2019 - 8:17 p.m.

RE: Barr's DOJ is a rogue agency - not only are they blocking the lawful release of Trump's taxes, c Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:21 p.m.

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Just a daily reminder of how Russia aided and abetted the #GreatAmericanElectoralError Native 6/14/2019 - 8:13 p.m.

This is one reason trump's base is still strong. * UFNY 6/15/2019 - 7:04 a.m.

Yes, it likely is one reason. Regardless, I am comforted in one respect by seeing these stories .. MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 9:10 a.m.

Countless is code for, we have no clue but it has to be what happened. * Inspector Vol 6/15/2019 - 7:43 a.m.

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US Court rules against Trump today in latest abortion case! GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 7:23 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 7:24 p.m.

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I can see where a blanket denial, regardless of situation, created a de facto prohibition MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 12:01 a.m.

Panel of the DC Circuit. I bet the Supremes sidestep this one and deny certiorari. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:20 p.m.

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So Trump is saying that Queen Elizabeth's people are saying she has not had this much fun. . . Top Cat 6/14/2019 - 7:06 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/15/2019 - 8:44 a.m.

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And farmers weeped as he signed a bill...what I love about Trump - he lies when he doesn't have to * lurch 6/14/2019 - 8:09 p.m.

He also says Melanie is the next Jackie O Native 6/14/2019 - 7:17 p.m.

She is one botox and filler injection away from looking like the Lion Lady of NY GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 9:25 p.m.

RE: She is one botox and filler injection away from looking like the Lion Lady of NY Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 5:03 p.m.

When did Jackie show her goods to the world? He needs to quit snorting Adderall. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:36 p.m.

RE: When did Jackie show her goods to the world? He needs to quit snorting Adderall. Native 6/14/2019 - 8:41 p.m.

RE: When did Jackie show her goods to the world? He needs to quit snorting Adderall. Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 9:07 p.m.

Yed * Native 6/14/2019 - 9:17 p.m.

RE: He also says Melanie is the next Jackie O Top Cat 6/14/2019 - 8:25 p.m.

Melania puts Jackie Kennedy to shame. Jackie could only wish for Melania's beauty and grace. * GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 7:27 p.m.

Both are just lovely. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 9:44 p.m.

Ok, now I know you are a fake. C'mon guys, which one of you is doubling as this troll? * Top Cat 6/14/2019 - 8:22 p.m.

It's performance art. It's gotta be. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:46 p.m.

Do KGA and Gordo post at the same time? * Native 6/14/2019 - 9:00 p.m.

RE: Melania puts Jackie Kennedy to shame. Jackie could only wish for Melania's beauty and grace. iPhoneHobbes 6/14/2019 - 8:00 p.m.

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Tanker War, vol. 2 ? Attacks on tankers happened in the 1980s, and led to a 1 day naval battle Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 6:01 p.m.

Although our Navy would crush theirs chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 6:18 p.m.

Iran, the nation that Saddam fought to a seven year draw...until Bush stepped in and messed up humpgator 6/15/2019 - 5:13 a.m.

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The loneliness epidemic

Boggy Creek Gator 6/14/2019 - 2:38 p.m.

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Sarah Sanders was the disdainful Queen of Gaslighting

UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 1:58 p.m.

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Debate night 1 looks like a real snoozer. Give me debate night 2. Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 1:56 p.m.

I promise you the media will try to pick a fight between Pete and Gillibrand over Franken. This is lurch 6/14/2019 - 8:11 p.m.

Gillibrand's shameful treatment of Franken disqualifies her from consideration in my book. Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:24 p.m.

Yeah, she wasn't the only one, but she was the ringleader * Native 6/14/2019 - 8:42 p.m.

Do. Not. Want. Disqualified herself with that bit of pandering. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:52 p.m.

Concur. Night 1 is the kiddie table, night 2 is the heavy hitters. Warren mops the floor night 1. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 2:51 p.m.

I wasn't sure if they'd do an A league night and a B league night. UFNY 6/14/2019 - 2:28 p.m.

They should call these Cluster A and Cluster B...more accurate representation of the format * lurch 6/14/2019 - 8:17 p.m.

It was done using randomized selection. Field was split into those polling above 2% and those below Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:33 p.m.

I have no issue with they split...my issue is how NBC will ask questions... lurch 6/14/2019 - 8:41 p.m.

RE: I have no issue with they split...my issue is how NBC will ask questions... Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:49 p.m.

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The Faux Outrage Over Trump’s Comments on Opposition Research (Link)..... GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 1:07 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 1:08 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 1:08 p.m.

The gaslighting continues. You should give Sarah a call about that opening. * trash 6/14/2019 - 5:26 p.m.

A #badword#ing Op-Ed piece? No thanks. * Top Cat 6/14/2019 - 5:02 p.m.

Because that is so yesterday...compared to 80 twits a day...or craptastic newsaganda MSM * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 5:21 p.m.

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Good-bye Sarah Sanders don't let the door hit your butt on the way out Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 12:24 p.m. Starred by 4 People

Starred by 4 People

There's something beautiful about Trump bidding farewell to Sarah Sanders with a false statement * Top Cat 6/14/2019 - 5:04 p.m.

It's just so perfect a summation of Bagdad Bobbi's tenure. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:50 p.m.

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Does Chinese science fiction tell us what China's leadership is thinking?

Boggy Creek Gator 6/14/2019 - 11:43 a.m.

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Trump Welcomes Foreign Election Interference—but McConnell Makes It More Likely

UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 11:31 a.m.

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Fire every single one of them (link)... GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 11:24 a.m.

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Good column by David Frum on D-Day Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 11:01 a.m.

You realize that Kristol and Frum hate Trump because he is resistant to intervention in Syria.... GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 11:07 a.m.

Well I hate Drumpf because he's an uncouth semi-literate narcissistic boor. * Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 11:13 a.m.

He probably doesn't care much for you either. * humpgator 6/15/2019 - 5:16 a.m.

Deere lowered I hope he wouldn't. * Hobbes 6/15/2019 - 7:35 a.m.

And those are his good qualities. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 11:34 a.m.

Geez, you are quoting David Frum and Bill Kristol? The two hacks who helped get us in the Iraq war?? * GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 11:04 a.m.

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GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 10:24 a.m. Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 10:27 a.m.

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Dude..you're behind the times. The talking points have changed Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 10:59 a.m.

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Do not be anxious Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 9:28 a.m.

My biggest struggle! And here's my favorite reminder of why I should fear not. VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 9:36 a.m.

Me also. * GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 9:52 a.m.

I recently heard someone proclaim that there are 366 commands to VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 9:57 a.m.

Peter was able to walk on water til fear entered his mind. Also Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 10:05 a.m.

RE: Peter was able to walk on water til fear entered his mind. Also Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 12:31 p.m.

Great song. * Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 1:03 p.m.

That song always come to mind when I read or hear a sermon about Jesus walking on the water iPhoneHobbes 6/14/2019 - 6:55 p.m.

I betcha get a lot of Amen’s for that... * 10EC 6/14/2019 - 8:42 p.m.

Yep, God's blessings are intended to be passed along, we are to be conduits not reservoirs. * VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 10:11 a.m.

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Does anyone think Trump has earned any more voters? Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:03 a.m.

RE: Does anyone think Trump has earned any more voters? Top Cat 6/14/2019 - 4:02 p.m.

Yes Wize Guy 6/14/2019 - 11:57 a.m.

I think the Parkland kids have raised awareness and they may have more votes. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 8:56 p.m.

Yes. But not as many as he has lost chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 11:05 a.m.

It all depends on who he is running against.... JimG8R 6/14/2019 - 10:32 a.m.

My children and grandchildren...who don't want to be disinherited. * humpgator 6/14/2019 - 9:20 a.m.

They already are from deficit spending. * Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 10:57 a.m.

you're moving into Flea's domain I see * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 11:51 a.m.

Yep. We're killing them. Financially. * dudehead 6/14/2019 - 11:33 a.m.

LOL, good one Hump, but seriously.... JimG8R 6/14/2019 - 10:35 a.m.

So you think there will be an increase in votes from Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:25 a.m.

I can't think of a group that has benefited from his presidency Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 9:15 a.m.

Huge positive change in AA employment... * 10EC 6/14/2019 - 10:13 a.m.

Unemployment had already halved from its peak before he took office Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 11:06 a.m.

I'm not saying that he caused it, but during his presidency, many things have gotten better * 10EC 6/14/2019 - 11:42 a.m.

I understand. I'm just looking for a constituency that would give him credit and thus vote for him * Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 11:56 a.m.

Only the most ardent detractors don't give him credit. Most Biz folks sure do. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 3:43 p.m.

"Credit where credit is due" Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 4:08 p.m.

sure dude... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 5:16 p.m.

that's not what that article says. * trash 6/14/2019 - 7:20 p.m.

I know biz folks too... GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 3:53 p.m.

Sure dude... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 5:10 p.m.

An unvetted press release from “business.com”. * GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 6:36 p.m.

Same for Latino employment. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:58 a.m.

Does anyone think Trump has earned any more voters? Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 9:13 a.m.

RE: Does anyone think Trump has earned any more voters? Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 10:49 a.m.

Yes, look at the economic performance. The growth for blue collar jobs is especially important. * GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 9:09 a.m.

If his votes for him are a protest, it wouldn't be about earning..... UFNY 6/14/2019 - 9:08 a.m.

Exactly what I think. The Ds are desperately promising everything free and cure of cancer. How VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 9:28 a.m.

You know better than to believe that silliness in your subject line, right? * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:48 a.m.

You are finally calling out a subject line for silliness? What took you so long? You'll be busy :-) * BelmontGator 6/14/2019 - 11:48 a.m.

Does that mean you plan to post more? ;-) Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 12:00 p.m.

Are you asking if I believe that they are promising all of that, is so then VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 9:54 a.m.

"promising everything free". Comments like that are just silly. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:00 a.m.

How about..."lots and lots of stuff free"? Have you not seen the list of things they're promising? VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 10:14 a.m.

This is different from what every candidate has done since the beginning of elections how? Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:17 a.m.

I guess Trump was always over the top and I never took much of what he said VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 10:28 a.m.

Are you talking about his comment or theirs? * Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 10:06 a.m.

His comment was an exaggeration and embellishment of theirs. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:13 a.m.

And? * Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 10:51 a.m.

RE: And what? * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:55 a.m.

Why does this one matter? * Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 11:22 a.m.

WADR if it doesn't matter to you, find a post that does. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 11:29 a.m.

I'm just trying to understand why anyone would think like that. ;) * Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 12:16 p.m.

Sorry, I never dreamed anyone would be so juvenile as to take it literally and then bash me. * VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 10:16 a.m.

Sorry if you feel "bashed". This isnt an echo chamber. We all get called on comments we make here * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:18 a.m.

Tell that to those who have half the board on ignore. * Thunder 6/15/2019 - 8:45 a.m.

Hard to argue this one * FLVOL 6/15/2019 - 9:27 a.m.

LOLOLOL * MiamiGator 6/14/2019 - 9:04 p.m.

"better to be bashed than ignored" BIllVol., October 12, 1998 * Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 12:51 p.m.

I agree with that, but I think those protest voters turned out heavily for him in 2016 Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 9:13 a.m.

RE: I agree with that, but I think those protest voters turned out heavily for him in 2016 Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 10:56 a.m.

I think there are at least a few candidates that could equal hillary..... UFNY 6/14/2019 - 9:20 a.m.

RE: I think there are at least a few candidates that could equal hillary.....I agree Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 11:18 a.m.

I think there's a pretty good chance of that * Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 11:20 a.m.

RE: I think there's a pretty good chance of that Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 11:25 a.m.

RE: I think there's a pretty good chance of that Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 11:26 a.m.

RE: I think there's a pretty good chance of that Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 12:50 p.m.

RE: I think there's a pretty good chance of that Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 12:55 p.m.

Libertarian candidate be damned? * 10EC 6/14/2019 - 1:43 p.m.

RE: Libertarian candidate be damned? Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 1:54 p.m.

Your vote doesn’t count: iPhoneHobbes 6/15/2019 - 5:35 p.m.

so, I can count on you to join me in supporting Vermin Supreme? * chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 2:08 p.m.

The clear choice for pony lovers everywhere * Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 2:17 p.m.

The Neighs have it! * chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 2:29 p.m.

Well thought out... I’m still hoping Trump is primaried.. * 10EC 6/14/2019 - 2:03 p.m.

That would be ideal, but at this point I don't see it * Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 2:05 p.m.

HDS was an altogether different animal than basic dislike of a candidate's views IMO. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:26 a.m.

Yes, but that doesn't mean there can't be an equivalent combo. UFNY 6/14/2019 - 9:31 a.m.

Oh sure. I see Warren as being the closest to Hillary as far as potential for dislike goes. Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:38 a.m.

RE: Oh sure. I see Warren as being the closest to Hillary as far as potential for dislike goes. Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 11:22 a.m.

RE: Oh sure. I see Warren as being the closest to Hillary as far as potential for dislike goes. GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 2:18 p.m.

You are wrong chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 6:25 p.m.

I don't see how Trump is not motivation enough for every registered Dem to vote Clockwork Orange 6/14/2019 - 9:26 a.m.

earned? no. gained? yes * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 9:08 a.m.

Good distinction. Can you elaborate? * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:08 a.m.

people will vote to keep the dems out of power * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 9:13 a.m.

People who didn't do the same thing in 2016? * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:14 a.m.

of course. A lot of people that voted independent, like me, will be less likely to do so FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 9:24 a.m.

I did'nt vote for him the last time and if the pattern holds probably won't do so again Boggy Creek Gator 6/14/2019 - 11:29 a.m.

that's pretty much where im at * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 11:35 a.m.

Not only that, but since the reactions to trump's nonsense has not risen above his low bar Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 9:50 a.m.

There may be voters like me. I couldn’t vote for Trump in 2016 so I voted for Johnson DurangoGator 6/14/2019 - 9:22 a.m.

There are other voters like you. * MichiGator 6/14/2019 - 3:02 p.m.

Yes but there is one Libertarian candidate I may chose chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 11:42 a.m.

I looked up some things on his platform chemosabe 6/14/2019 - 11:48 a.m.

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Alan Dershowitz Declares He Would Support Biden Over Trump in 2020

UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 8:05 a.m.

Guess he misses being on the guest lists for all the lib dinner parties at Martha's Vinyard. * humpgator 6/14/2019 - 9:21 a.m.

One of the leading Trump apologists goes even slightly off the reservation... GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 9:30 a.m.

Man you guys hate Trump supporters * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:03 a.m.

We could take a lesson on tolerance from you for sure! :) * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:09 a.m.

I'll take that as your admission. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:11 a.m.

LOL. You just owned Mud's comment on your lack of tolerance. * 3rdWardGator 6/14/2019 - 12:47 p.m.

I love several people who are Trump supporters. I enjoy debating this stuff on a message board. Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:14 a.m.

Wait until Jacksonville..:) * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 11:28 a.m.

That hate is a big part of what keeps his base strong. * UFNY 6/14/2019 - 10:08 a.m.

I qualified it with "hard-core". GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 10:06 a.m.

Sure saw it with Obama too... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:10 a.m.

I read an interesting take on Deshowitz recently Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:52 a.m.

He's very clear on his positions and states almost everytime.... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:06 a.m.

TDS is all consuming. * MiamiGator 6/14/2019 - 9:10 p.m.

Makes sense, he's a big Dem. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 8:25 a.m.

RE: Alan Dershowitz Declares He Would Support Biden Over Trump in 2020 Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:25 a.m.

Yup.No moderates or independent thinking in the D tent * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 8:55 a.m.

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Trump admitted to more collusion. Thunder 6/14/2019 - 7:49 a.m.

I agree... 3rdWardGator 6/14/2019 - 12:48 p.m.

RE: Trump admitted to more collusion. Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 10:05 a.m.

RE: Trump admitted to more collusion. Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 10:41 a.m.

so you think the D's aren't starting impeachment inquiry so that they can BBG 6/14/2019 - 8:37 a.m.

My guess is they are waiting to see if they can beat him in 2020. If not, then impeach. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:30 a.m.

If he is impeached to soon they will just elevate Pence and he becomes the defacto GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 7:29 p.m.

They're damned if they do, damned if they don't... GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 10:02 a.m.

Listen to DJ, he's got this exactly right * Native 6/14/2019 - 1:18 p.m.

Yep. * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 5:41 p.m.

Nancy is smart, but she lacks the ability to get the Dems under control * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 10:18 a.m.

I agree with this too. * 3rdWardGator 6/14/2019 - 12:48 p.m.

I'm not so sure about that. Behind the scenes, she's doing a pretty good job of it so far... GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 10:23 a.m.

I'm pretty sure of it Wize Guy 6/14/2019 - 12:04 p.m.

But was Nixon nearly as divisive as Trump is? * Thunder 6/14/2019 - 10:04 a.m.

No. At least not until the tapes became public... GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 10:18 a.m.

Yes and the late 60's early 70's were worse than today BUT Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 10:12 a.m.

Concur. * GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 10:20 a.m.

I'm saying that, even before Trump's admission, there is plenty to impeach him on. Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:39 a.m.

yes, and it isn't for why think. * BBG 6/14/2019 - 8:47 a.m.

Thunder is at least partially correct FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 9:07 a.m.

yep. * 3rdWardGator 6/14/2019 - 12:49 p.m.

Better yet....he will be aquitted, then he can say so AGAIN g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:16 a.m.

I agree but I think that there's a good chance that people become VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 9:32 a.m.

Fear not. He will continue to provide a cacophony of new reasons. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:35 a.m.

When everything an emergency, nothing is an emergency. g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:20 a.m.

Correct * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 9:31 a.m.

I never said there wasn't a political timing aspect to their apparent decision (at this point) BBG 6/14/2019 - 9:16 a.m.

IMO, Nancy has the perfect scenario if she plays her cards right FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 9:57 a.m.

The problem is that runs the risk of him refusing to give up the office if he loses and/or... Thunder 6/15/2019 - 8:57 a.m.

Her base and media would completely face melt. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:21 a.m.

I don't think so. In fact, I suspect just the opposite, I think that most would respect her for it * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 10:23 a.m.

Nope, I couldn't disagree more. g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:37 a.m.

I know I would. It would be refreshing seeing a public figure more concerned about the FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 10:25 a.m.

I absolutely believe this. Might as well wait until there is no plan B campaign for the Rs * krharris 6/14/2019 - 9:15 a.m.

But that's the Crux of it all, this isn't an R plan, this is the liberals FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 9:40 a.m.

RE: But that's the Crux of it all, this isn't an R plan, this is the liberals Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 11:20 a.m.

They are wedded to a strategy...albeit, a fraud.... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:29 a.m.

Wow you really hate Dems! :) * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:41 a.m.

Actually I love them and their strategy...it elected Trump! Thanks 😊 * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:54 a.m.

She's is a village idiot. I bet she wishes she had a guillotine... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:52 a.m.

I don't think cutting Drumpf's head off would make him any smarter. Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 10:07 a.m.

RE: I don't think cutting Drumpf's head off would make him any smarter. Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 10:34 a.m.

lol * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 10:20 a.m.

Now that's high quality humor right there. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:13 a.m.

I'm not saying I like her. Thunder 6/14/2019 - 7:55 a.m.

like I said, you see what I'm talking about right above you there. BBG 6/14/2019 - 8:39 a.m.

Hyperbole in the attempt to be funny, lighten up Francis g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:14 a.m.

I'm never sure when you're serious or when you're, um, fishing. * GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 10:22 a.m.

Frankly, the only way I can really deal with ... g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:51 a.m.

RE: Frankly, the only way I can really deal with ... Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 12:37 p.m.

Kind of a pathognomonic symptom when it comes to trump true believers * BBG 6/14/2019 - 10:41 a.m.

Nice personal attack * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:52 a.m.

not really - my opinion is that an identifying characteristic of trump true believers BBG 6/14/2019 - 11:04 a.m.

RE: not really - my opinion is that an identifying characteristic of trump true believers Hobbes 6/14/2019 - 12:40 p.m.

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Happy #JohnMcCain Day! Yes.. It's a thing... * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 7:41 a.m.

RE: Happy #JohnMcCain Day! Yes.. It's a thing... Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:26 a.m.

Now THAT is trolling. * UFNY 6/14/2019 - 7:43 a.m.

Maybe... But it's something I CAN celebrate. * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 7:54 a.m.

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Happy Birthday Mr. President! * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:10 a.m.

Happy Birthday indeed to this young man.............. GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 8:51 a.m.

RE: Happy Birthday indeed to this young man.............. Beachmaster 6/15/2019 - 10:49 a.m.

I will take that as a troll... * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 7:12 a.m.

How is that trolling? Thunder 6/14/2019 - 7:41 a.m.

Sounds like triggering to me....just sayin' * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:47 a.m.

Yall should get a room. * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 7:55 a.m.

Nawh, I gotta go clean the pony stalls... * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 8:19 a.m.

The People's President. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:27 a.m.

Why? Everyone deserves a happy birthday. * UFNY 6/14/2019 - 7:20 a.m.

Orange man bad...we are Borg * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:46 a.m.

Trump is a god...we are Scientologists. * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 8:02 a.m.

Wonder why mud didn't call out this post for silliness yet did for volman. * BelmontGator 6/14/2019 - 11:46 a.m.

It is ponderous, isn’t it? * MiamiGator 6/14/2019 - 9:14 p.m.

You're free to call out what you see as silly. * Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 11:58 a.m.

Wow, Scientologist is an upgrade to what most Lefties call us. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 8:04 a.m.

Possibly..but just as willing to suspend reality and the truth.. * UGADawginVA 6/14/2019 - 8:07 a.m.

Nawh just your reality and your truth. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 8:24 a.m.

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Why on earth would Marsha Blackburn block a bill to require campaigns to report foreign meddling? Native 6/14/2019 - 6:47 a.m.

Why on earth would Marsha Blackburn block a bill to require campaigns to report foreign meddling Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 7:56 a.m.

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Trump's Mother of All Truth Bombs Native 6/14/2019 - 6:06 a.m.

He "Thought" about listening to dirt from abroad,not illegal...Hillary paid for it. Go figure . * humpgator 6/14/2019 - 9:25 a.m.

pony pony pony! * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:40 a.m.

Barb McQuade: Donnie is a walking, talking national security danger Native 6/14/2019 - 8:20 a.m.

Question for the 4evahDonnie crowd - why does he refuse to protect our country? Native 6/14/2019 - 8:22 a.m.

You guys are so funny....I just can't stop laughing. * g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 10:26 a.m.

When the most powerful man in the world proclaims he would listen to "dirt" on his political Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 10:45 a.m.

Or, as my Gator friend Sandy put it, after two years of whining about unfair accusations Native 6/14/2019 - 6:43 a.m.

Two and a half year of collusion of the media ruse...zero fired g8rdome 6/14/2019 - 7:45 a.m.

The MSM is a broad brush from the supporter of the Liar-in-Chief * Native 6/14/2019 - 8:15 a.m.

It'S A CoNSiRaCy! ThEy ArE AlL In oN iT! I BeT ThEY aRe pARt Of DeEp StATe! * Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 9:02 a.m.

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Hey, here's the ranking R member of the Ways & Means committee accidentally admitting Native 6/14/2019 - 5:52 a.m. Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 6:36 a.m.

Edited by Author on 6/14/2019 - 6:36 a.m.

Hey, here's the ranking R member of the Ways & Means committee accidentally admitting Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:11 a.m.

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This is so "pro-life" - teen mom and premature baby ignored for a week at US detention facility Native 6/14/2019 - 5:32 a.m.

RE: This is so "pro-life" - teen mom and premature baby ignored for a week at US detention facility Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:15 a.m.

Fake news....Pelosi done told us "there is no emergency at the border". * VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 7:41 a.m.

The only emergency is the one created by the most dangerous, incompetent and corrupt "president" Native 6/14/2019 - 8:16 a.m.

You keep saying that. You do know that the source of the crisis is the VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 8:56 a.m.

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Do y'all know that some places in the world allow abortions and some are more restrictive? * Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 10:43 p.m.

and MOST of them have more liberal laws than we do here in the USA! * GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 8:45 p.m.

I'm sure Netflix and Disney boycott those places. * Thunder 6/14/2019 - 7:41 a.m.

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Junior tried to troll Justin Amash; as they say, hilarity ensued Native 6/13/2019 - 10:30 p.m.

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Bernie’s unserious speech on socialism

iPhoneHobbes 6/13/2019 - 8:52 p.m.

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So what about the F35? iPhoneHobbes 6/13/2019 - 8:30 p.m.

too many people making too much money off of these contracts * studegator 6/14/2019 - 7:37 a.m.

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Trump smashed months of FBI work to thwart election interference

UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 7:55 p.m.

^^^^ Pearl clutching. * GordonDawg 6/14/2019 - 1:11 p.m.

Just one of many treasonous things he does daily. The cult will pretend these posts are on ignore * Native 6/14/2019 - 6:01 a.m.

RE: Trump smashed months of FBI work to thwart election interference Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 9:38 p.m.

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Fox’s The Five Fawns Over Sarah Sanders: She Handled Press Briefings With ‘Grace’

UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 7:37 p.m.

Was Grace the nickname for her “eff you all” scowl? * Dawgspeare 6/14/2019 - 7:53 a.m.

LOL. She hasn't held a press briefing in 94 days and counting. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 7:40 p.m.

RE: LOL. She hasn't held a press briefing in 94 days and counting. iPhoneHobbes 6/13/2019 - 8:23 p.m.

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You people are the reason health care is so expensive. UFNY 6/13/2019 - 6:03 p.m. Starred by 2 People

Starred by 2 People

This article should be pinned. DurangoGator 6/13/2019 - 7:11 p.m.

Yup. The only thing that really changes people is hitting their pocketbook. * UFNY 6/13/2019 - 7:43 p.m.

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Corey Booker, hoppin' aboard the Money For Votes train, next stop Fiscal Catastrophe! UFNY 6/13/2019 - 4:43 p.m.

Vote D, free healthcare, subsidized rent and a cure for cancer! * VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 7:52 a.m.

Sorry, I omitted free college and no more farting cows! * VOLMAN 6/14/2019 - 8:06 a.m.

well that's a stupid idea, but fiscal catastrophe is already here either way.... JimG8R 6/13/2019 - 5:51 p.m.

BOTH parties are at fault.. * g8rdome 6/13/2019 - 5:57 p.m.

We are long past the point of no return without a very hard rain.... * g8rdome 6/13/2019 - 4:51 p.m.

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Trump Orlando ticket requests over 74,000...The O-rena jut holds 20K...such excitement * g8rdome 6/13/2019 - 4:29 p.m.

They heard there would be Whales * Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 7:41 p.m.

Uh, the "source" for the 74K number is Trump. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 4:33 p.m.

Whatever...I have just seen it on about every news station here in Orlando but believe what you want * g8rdome 6/13/2019 - 4:46 p.m.

It's not a matter of "believing what I want". Trump was the source of the number... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 7:33 p.m.

RE: It's not a matter of "believing what I want". Trump was the source of the number... iPhoneHobbes 6/13/2019 - 8:45 p.m.

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Oberlin SJW College takes a beating...$33M in punative damages

g8rdome 6/13/2019 - 4:25 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/13/2019 - 4:29 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/13/2019 - 4:29 p.m.

That sounds low. * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 4:41 p.m.

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Sarah Sanders is leaving the WH at the end of the month per Trump. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 4:19 p.m.

Perspective for those who might want to give her a pass as just another WHS trash 6/14/2019 - 1:15 a.m.

They should name her replacement before she leaves...... UFNY 6/13/2019 - 4:23 p.m.

Not sure Trump wants a press sec; not sure what a Trump PS would do * lurch 6/13/2019 - 7:14 p.m.

He's his own press secretary, the best press secretary, many people are saying this believe me. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 7:34 p.m.

or maybe so Trump can lie about who it really is. * BBG 6/13/2019 - 5:06 p.m.

I'd like one who actually holds WH press briefings. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 4:34 p.m.

They should get someone who doesn't lie with every breath. * atlgator85 6/13/2019 - 4:30 p.m.

One would hope so, but lying with some breaths is part of any spokesperson's job. UFNY 6/13/2019 - 4:32 p.m.

So a lying WH spokesperson is cool, as long as no one calls them names? * trash 6/13/2019 - 6:54 p.m.

Your words, not mine. * UFNY 6/13/2019 - 7:41 p.m.

"...but lying with some breaths is part of any spokesperson's job." trash 6/13/2019 - 11:53 p.m.

Right. You incorrectly paraphrased, then linked the two with a premise that is yours not mine. * UFNY 6/14/2019 - 6:20 a.m.

Hey, Sean and Laura have a fix for that! Native 6/14/2019 - 5:37 a.m.

RE: Hey, Sean and Laura have a fix for that! Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:18 a.m.

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House Republicans try to spin Trump's foreign dirt comment

UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 3:59 p.m.

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Pompeo is wagging the dog, Trump needs a war with Iran to distract the nation * Native 6/13/2019 - 2:18 p.m.

Is that you Alex Jones?? You think those tankers torpedoed themselves? * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 5:17 p.m.

I have no idea, but I guarantee anything that comes out of this administration is BS * Native 6/14/2019 - 5:34 a.m.

RE: Pompeo is wagging the dog, Trump needs a war with Iran to distract the nation Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 2:25 p.m.

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Looks like the moron is trying to back off on his taking foreign help claim....

UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 1:08 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/13/2019 - 1:08 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/13/2019 - 1:08 p.m.

Haha..he just asked Rudy to go to a foreign govt to get dirt on an opponent. lurch 6/13/2019 - 7:18 p.m.

Does this tweet make Charles look fat? * Dawgzilla 6/13/2019 - 2:46 p.m.

If the Prince of Whales is going to sing, baby, he'll be there to listen. J.M. 6/13/2019 - 1:19 p.m.

RE: Looks like the moron is trying to back off on his taking foreign help claim.... Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 1:18 p.m.

Spell Wales... DaZeD 6/13/2019 - 4:24 p.m.

RE: Spell Wales... Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 5:49 p.m.

During the 2020 debate(s) (if there are any) his D opponent should ask him to recite the pledge of Native 6/14/2019 - 6:31 a.m.

"Life"...I'm Loving It DaZeD 6/14/2019 - 3:18 p.m.

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WaPo article on FSU's restructuring of their athletic department... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 12:48 p.m.

Pac 12 is selling a portion of conference to VC funds... * UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 1:09 p.m.

interesting read but imho hiding had nothing to peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 3:49 p.m.

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George Will Says Trump Has Done More Damage Than Nixon: Ringing a Bell ‘That Can’t Be Un-Rung’ UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 12:34 p.m.

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Federal watchdog agency recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway for Hatch Act violations...

GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 12:26 p.m.

RE: Federal watchdog agency recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway for Hatch Act violations... Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 7:51 p.m.

His cult will wear this as a badge of honor..R's wont mention this..at all. * UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 12:32 p.m.

I think... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 12:39 p.m.

FLVOL recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway for her annoying voice * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 12:31 p.m.

^^^^^ THIS ^^^^^ * VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 12:44 p.m.

RE: Federal watchdog agency recommends removal of Kellyanne Conway for Hatch Act violations... Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:31 p.m.

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Trump Finally Told the Truth: He Needs Russia to Win UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 12:02 p.m.

George S just about pulled a Tom Cruise "I ordered the Code Red" moment lurch 6/13/2019 - 7:21 p.m.

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Tankers torpedoed in Gulf of Oman

Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 11:38 a.m.

RE: Tankers torpedoed in Gulf of Oman Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:02 p.m.

RE: Tankers torpedoed in Gulf of Oman Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 7:42 p.m.

RE: Tankers torpedoed in Gulf of Oman Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 7:59 p.m.

One slight difference: unlike Iraq, there have been actual attacks on third party ships. Thunder 6/14/2019 - 7:54 a.m.

Conspiracy theory. * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 6:37 p.m.

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CNN ratings imploding... all the sides of the news channels have peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 10:50 a.m.

CNN should focus on news and facts, not their opinions. * BelmontGator 6/13/2019 - 6:06 p.m.

Do you think Fox should do the same? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 9:36 p.m.

*Balanced* mainstream news is losing out to the partisan channels. Flea 6/13/2019 - 12:32 p.m.

I agree with this post. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 9:37 p.m.

not sure many would consider CNN balanced * peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 2:20 p.m.

Many think refs care who wins, too. * Flea 6/13/2019 - 4:03 p.m.

Hillarious * Ezgator 6/13/2019 - 2:06 p.m.

RE: *Balanced* mainstream news is losing out to the partisan channels. aubie in bham 6/13/2019 - 2:04 p.m.

Agreed. I'll watch CNN news for breaking news coverage, but that's about it. Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:43 p.m.

More options for mainstream and liberal leaning viewers...only one for conservatives. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 11:53 a.m.

I don't believe they are conservative. It is Right-Wing. Conservative died years ago. * atlgator85 6/13/2019 - 1:45 p.m.

Yed. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 1:47 p.m.

Actually Two.... DaZeD 6/13/2019 - 1:23 p.m.

They've got issues in prime time, not so much other dayparts. GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 11:48 a.m.

I really must object to this broad-brush disimssal of MSNBC and Fox News in the same lane Native 6/14/2019 - 6:15 a.m.

Huh? Where did I do that? * GatorDJ 6/14/2019 - 9:24 a.m.

A prescription to fix it... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 12:32 p.m.

I think your prescription to fix it is spot on... it is what made them * peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 2:23 p.m.

it would actually very cool if they dumped all those commentators and their shows etc and just hired peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 2:30 p.m.

Or replace the opinion with hour long in depth shows on current issues chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 1:04 p.m.

I've got another idea... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 4:17 p.m.

well stated Chemo... I think many reporters and editors don't try to recognize or forget peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 2:27 p.m.

And make everyone take a test (to discourage 💤 😬) * Mississippi Vol 6/13/2019 - 1:11 p.m.

Gratuitous nudity on the 8s * Dawgspeare 6/13/2019 - 3:52 p.m.

It worked for Fox * chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 3:55 p.m.

I think CNN brought much of this upon itself, but I'll add 2 things ....... MichiGator 6/13/2019 - 11:19 a.m.

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"And they will know we are Christians by our love, by our love.." Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 10:30 a.m.

and this is why any idiot can be a preacher. I wonder how his wife feels about Leviticus * aubie in bham 6/13/2019 - 11:22 a.m.

RE: and this is why any idiot can be a preacher. I wonder how his wife feels about Leviticus Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:13 p.m.

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The perils of believing in politicians. UFNY 6/13/2019 - 10:26 a.m.

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"How Franklin Graham is perverting his father's legacy"... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 9:49 a.m. Starred by 3 People

Starred by 3 People

Grayson Fritts tells Franklin Graham to "hold my beer" Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 10:31 a.m.

Whoa * chigatorbri 6/13/2019 - 3:04 p.m.

So ... huh ... Jesus, when he comes back, will rule with a rod of iron J.M. 6/13/2019 - 10:47 a.m.

RE: So ... huh ... Jesus, when he comes back, will rule with a rod of iron Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 11:02 a.m.

Lots of truth in there. * VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 9:55 a.m.

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"Childish crap" Alabama sheriffs sabotage their successors

Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 8:57 a.m. Edited by Author on 6/13/2019 - 8:57 a.m.

Edited by Author on 6/13/2019 - 8:57 a.m.

Wow-talk about childish vendettas. * Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:04 p.m.

Like removing the w key from the keyboards. * BelmontGator 6/13/2019 - 6:07 p.m.

On the other hand, here is a good story from Alabama Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 10:39 a.m.

Good grief. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 9:51 a.m.

I found the prank of removing the W key from WH keyboards/typewriters somewhat clever Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 10:25 a.m.

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Why is the right so eager to label Dem's as anti-semites? trash 6/13/2019 - 8:55 a.m.

Why is the right so eager to label Dem's as anti-semites? Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 11:16 a.m.

Exactly, also kind of like the socialist branding attempts, while remaining silent on Dear Leader trash 6/13/2019 - 5:06 p.m.

To marginalize the left and try to steal votes. Same thing the left does to the right. * Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 9:35 a.m.

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The Bulwark on Elizabeth Warren: Why she matters Native 6/13/2019 - 8:26 a.m.

Trump certainly needs them to run * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 9:13 a.m.

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Florida is a superhighway of hate and extremism Native 6/13/2019 - 8:06 a.m. Edited by Admin on 6/13/2019 - 9:27 p.m.

Edited by Admin on 6/13/2019 - 9:27 p.m.

RE: Florida is a superhighway of hate and extremism Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 1:15 p.m.

don't buy it... FL has haters... but imho no more peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 2:46 p.m.

SPLC has wasted most of its credibility over the years. Not a reasonable arbiter of these things, MichiGator 6/15/2019 - 9:37 a.m.

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Since we’re ranking states, here’s one which IMO gives insight into the Mississippi Vol 6/12/2019 - 11:25 p.m.

And here's one which IMO gives insight into the Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 7:47 a.m.

So the bottom line for both is..... UFNY 6/13/2019 - 7:51 a.m.

Mostly states that refused Medicaid expansion, because Obama! * Native 6/13/2019 - 7:48 a.m.

Let's look at life expectancy. Surely a state which cares about its citizens would rank high. Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 7:52 a.m.

Whipped 'em again Josie. * VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 7:42 a.m.

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I've mentioned before that I'm hopeful that science will solve our global warming problems Native 6/12/2019 - 10:57 p.m.

Seems like one good idea. We need a global effort and a comprehensive, multi-nationally agreed plan Flea 6/13/2019 - 9:53 a.m.

I don't know, I think there's a decent chance of getting everybody on board... GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 9:57 a.m.

Once the point of no return has been passed, it'll be 2 or 3 years before agreements are reached. * Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:07 p.m.

some thoughts... peabody hall 6/13/2019 - 3:02 p.m.

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Duncan Hunter's wife is changing her plea, cooperating with prosecutors? Native 6/12/2019 - 8:26 p.m.

RE: Duncan Hunter's wife is changing her plea, cooperating with prosecutors? Beachmaster 6/12/2019 - 9:30 p.m.

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Trump says he would listen to a foreign country if they had dirt on his opposition. . . . Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 8:20 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/12/2019 - 8:24 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/12/2019 - 8:24 p.m.

Excuse me, but Hillary PAID a foreigner (former intelligence op) to gather dirt on Trump. FYI.. * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 7:04 a.m.

BS. She hired Fusion GPS, a US investigative firm. They employed Steele as their contractor. * Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 7:20 a.m.

Yes, Steele the foreigner. Who cares if it was a subcontract. He got paid by Hillary. * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 7:23 a.m.

The law cares. * Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 7:41 a.m.

Exactly, one campaign legally paid for oppo research, one used stolen data from foreign intel Native 6/13/2019 - 7:50 a.m.

since when does gordon or trump care about rule of law or the us constitution? * BBG 6/13/2019 - 10:28 a.m.

They don't, and they aren't the only ones here, but it will never stop me from speaking the truth * Native 6/13/2019 - 1:31 p.m.

Again, it's not that he was foreign, it's that he was hired legally and used legally obtained Native 6/13/2019 - 7:33 a.m.

Well no shyte, he already did. * BBG 6/13/2019 - 6:22 a.m.

And yet, somehow, the legal oppo research in the Steele Dossier was wrong! Native 6/13/2019 - 7:03 a.m.

Lets see how many R's come out and even criticize these comments none probably..sad state of affairs * UGADawginVA 6/13/2019 - 12:25 a.m.

Uh, why would they do that? Hillary paid for a foreigner to gather dirt on Trump. * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 7:06 a.m.

Hillary paid for normal oppo research (Steele was originally hired by JEB!), that's not the same as Native 6/13/2019 - 7:15 a.m.

(1) You mention "mislead", wasn't all the emails in the Wiki dump true? (2) Everybody got the GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 7:22 a.m.

No, they weren't. Julian Assange is a lying MFer, just take a look at Seth Rich. For the attention Native 6/13/2019 - 7:30 a.m.

Mud, this is just another example of the conversation below. If you haven't taken a gulp FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 9:10 a.m.

RE: Trump says he would listen to a foreign country if they had dirt on his opposition. . . . Beachmaster 6/12/2019 - 9:08 p.m.

Trump is the law. And his is the voice of God. Hallelujah * 3rdWardGator 6/12/2019 - 11:11 p.m.

History will not be kind to this douchebag. * UGADawginVA 6/12/2019 - 8:54 p.m.

Of course he would, he's trying to normalize criminal acts * Native 6/12/2019 - 8:27 p.m.

Step 1 Lie and Deny Step 2 scream FAKE NEWS FAKE NEWS Step 3 The Democrats did it first Step 4 GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 8:54 p.m.

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Mississippi (my birth state), Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, and Missouri vs Illinois GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 8:16 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/12/2019 - 8:20 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/12/2019 - 8:20 p.m.

It's pretty well universal.... JimG8R 6/13/2019 - 10:35 a.m.

There is more nuance to that chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 12:47 p.m.

You say these things like they are facts and they are not. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 7:41 p.m.

My favorite is Israel, how much US taxpayer money flows into their coffers, abortion totally legal Native 6/13/2019 - 9:12 p.m.

2 things chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 7:58 p.m.

I only have to look up Canada to start. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:04 p.m.

Um, you have to place the US among ALL western countries chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:08 p.m.

Chemo posted the following below. 2)limits to the first trimester only GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 10:05 p.m.

India checks in with abortion up to 20 weeks and beyond. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:27 p.m.

Japan - all you have to do is claim economic hardship GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:23 p.m.

Poland! A win for you! They have to travel to Germany and they do! GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:13 p.m.

Portugal - comparable to US GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:12 p.m.

Portugal..comparable to the Georgia law you oppose! Not US law chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:16 p.m.

I oppose the Georgia Law and I will provide the data for after 10-12 weeks. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:24 p.m.

Damn now I have to go back and add the after 10-12 week provisions. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:20 p.m.

lol FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 10:58 p.m.

What was that picture supposed to be? * Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:04 a.m.

fixed * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 8:14 a.m.

Thanks. * Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:16 a.m.

Austria - no more no less liberal than the US GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:10 p.m.

Austria - broad exceptions past 1st trimester GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:29 p.m.

Finland is MORE liberal than the US GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:09 p.m.

Finland - provisions for after 1st trimester. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:31 p.m.

Denmark GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:04 p.m.

RE:Denmark - An abortion can be performed after 12 weeks if the woman's life or health are in danger * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:32 p.m.

Croatia. Legal since 1952. They use 10 weeks instead of 12, but they allow for exceptions. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:56 p.m.

Croatia - 10 weeks and in specific circumstances afterwards. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:36 p.m.

Germany. Abortion on demand.- counselling required but they pay for it! GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:54 p.m.

Germany has a Nazi Era laws that began to relax just 4 months ago! GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:39 p.m.

France! GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:51 p.m.

France has provisions for after 12 weeks as well... GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:41 p.m.

Oh you can't move to Italy! Abortions are FREE OF CHARGE! GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:50 p.m.

Italy - provisions for after 1st trimester. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:44 p.m.

The UK - Abortion is legal under most circumstances GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:48 p.m.

UK not including Norhern Ireland up to 24 weeks no 10- -12 week limitation at all. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:48 p.m.

Sweden: less restrictions than the US. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:44 p.m.

Sweden says no limitations before 24 weeks - after the first trimester NO PROBLEM * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:50 p.m.

Netherlands and France also. Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 8:49 p.m.

By the way that was just a start. Canada . Now as a new project I will research other countries. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:35 p.m.

I applaud you actually researching something! chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:38 p.m.

Are you learning anything yet? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:52 p.m.

I have tried to be civil and not say disparaging thing to you. I would appreciate the same. I GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:42 p.m.

Civil? Try not calling the unborn parasites... Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:09 a.m.

She wasn't using it as pejorative. She was using it as a term from a biology book.... JimG8R 6/15/2019 - 10:31 a.m.

I did not see it as a loaded term. There were people who supported my use of the word. GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 7:35 p.m.

Where did I say it was about me? Thunder 6/15/2019 - 9:02 a.m.

I meant others were not offended. It is not just your sense of what is or is not offensive that GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 2:25 p.m.

Almost all of those countries require chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:02 p.m.

Please see above - MOST of them DO have provisions for after 10-12 weeks. you are wrong. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:42 p.m.

READ my posts. You are wrong. You just saying it does not make it so! * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:05 p.m.

I did read your posts and Guttmacher and I know the laws in most of those countries chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:06 p.m.

That is not what you said above. Now you say they are when compared to TWO states. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:08 p.m.

No it is not different chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:12 p.m.

Not true. I do not have time to go back and highlight which countries allow provinces and such to GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:15 p.m.

UK comes to mind due to Northern Ireland. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:54 p.m.

No it is not different chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:12 p.m.

So we are back to religion? You say Canadians don't like Christians so they don't count? GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:28 p.m.

They prosecute priests for preaching traditional Catholic teachings on marriage as “hate” speech chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:35 p.m.

Wow. I don''t think many agree that Canada is a radical country! * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:38 p.m.

RE: Wow. I don''t think many agree that Canada is a radical country! Beachmaster 6/14/2019 - 8:22 a.m.

Compared to China and N. Korea, Canada isn't radical. Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:12 a.m.

It is a complicated nuanced issue. There is definitely room for a moderate approach.... JimG8R 6/13/2019 - 1:06 p.m.

I agree most Americans have moderate beliefs on abortion chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:07 p.m.

I am horrified by war and I still have to pay the taxes that support it. What makes Pro-Lifers GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:31 p.m.

And we get to vote to get those politicians who support our views chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:37 p.m.

My opinion is as valuable as yours and I support the Hyde Amendment. Based on Christian teachings GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:41 p.m.

You are free to donate your time and money to provide them chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:05 p.m.

I asked why this is different? You don't say. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:06 p.m.

How is what different? * chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 9:09 p.m.

We all have to pay for things we find abhorrent. Why should you be special? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 9:18 p.m.

I believe the issue is about religious freedom, but I'll let Chemo correct me if wrong. * Inspector Vol 6/14/2019 - 9:47 a.m.

I do not think anyone has ever gotten a religious freedom exemption regarding paying taxes. GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 7:38 p.m.

Has anyone here said they shouldn't have to pay taxes? Thunder 6/15/2019 - 9:17 a.m.

Chemo clearly stated he does not think his tax dollars should be used for abortions. GR82BaFLG8R 6/15/2019 - 2:29 p.m.

AGAIN, has anybody here tried to claim religious exemption from paying taxes? Thunder 6/15/2019 - 4:56 p.m.

Does popularity make things right? Thunder 6/13/2019 - 12:01 p.m.

There really is no link to your assertion. The link of the relationship between education and Utahman 6/13/2019 - 8:53 a.m.

I would definitely like to see a regression analysis covering all states. Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:11 p.m.

Correlation does not equal causation. * Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:14 a.m.

Agreed * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:47 a.m.

Isn't Illinois essentially bankrupt? Both financially and morally? * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 7:07 a.m.

Well, duh. Look at Bri. * UFNY 6/13/2019 - 7:09 a.m.

:) * chigatorbri 6/13/2019 - 8:13 a.m.

RE: Mississippi (my birth state), Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, and Missouri vs Illinois Mississippi Vol 6/12/2019 - 11:07 p.m.

Will reply tomorrow if I find time. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 11:36 p.m.

No hurry, I’m on the road. As to your question, Mississippi Vol 6/13/2019 - 7:23 a.m.

Woohoo!! Mississippi is #46 with a bullet!! Dawgzilla 6/12/2019 - 10:09 p.m.

From your mouth to God's ears! I would love to see it in the top 10! * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 10:33 p.m.

Would like a ruling from the judges on whether this is trolling? Thanks. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 9:23 p.m.

State your own opinion. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 7:53 a.m.

Here's my opinion FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 8:36 a.m.

Who asked you? Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:45 a.m.

It has been an all too common refrain since the civil war. The south is inferior to the rest of the Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 9:33 a.m.

Since the civil war? Actually the Brits have been a little condescending since before that. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 9:56 a.m.

No comment on the scenario? * Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 10:57 a.m.

Not really. It would depend upon the specific post, among other things. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 11:03 a.m.

just a quick, scientifically unsupported demographics check tells me that most of the FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 8:50 a.m.

Greatest State in the land of the Free :) * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 8:56 a.m.

God's country, obviously * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 8:58 a.m.

Where everyone wears their gun open carry and totes a 20lb bible to church! * VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 9:23 a.m.

Those big ones make it easier to beat salvation into them. * Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 10:58 a.m.

Yeah, or least knock some sense into 'em. And it always brings the question "do you know VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 11:12 a.m.

I even carry my bible to Walmart when shopping barefooted for generic cigarettes just in case I FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 9:49 a.m.

RE: I even carry my bible to Walmart when shopping barefooted for generic cigarettes just in case I Hobbes 6/13/2019 - 9:31 p.m.

I really don't know how that post doesn't have 25 stars..... JimG8R 6/14/2019 - 12:41 p.m.

and it sucks knowing it's about to end, but I also acknowledge that I have to change my ways FLVOL 6/16/2019 - 9:43 a.m.

thanks Jim, and you're right, our type of humor isn't understood well * FLVOL 6/16/2019 - 9:37 a.m.

I confess you are holier than me. * VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 9:57 a.m.

RE: just a quick, scientifically unsupported demographics check tells me that most of the Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:54 a.m.

Actually, since you asked, this question has been a mainstay of sociological research for decades. Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 11:38 a.m.

hold my tongue, hold my tongue, hold my tongue, don't respond and incite....... * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 8:57 a.m.

You do know I am just messing with you with that, right? * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 9:10 a.m.

yes, I pick up sarcasm very easily. Only Hobbes leaves me wondering from time to time * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 9:12 a.m.

Yed * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 9:21 a.m.

It was a presentation of data. What would have made it trolling. I seem to have sparked a debate. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:54 p.m.

You did nothing wrong. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 7:54 a.m.

If you don't think there's anything wrong with taking cheap shots at... Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:15 a.m.

I think it's a discussion topic (like many others here) and wouldn't take it so personally. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:18 a.m.

If she was the only person, okay. Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:21 a.m.

And you don't see how calling pro-choice people (which includes those who don't care for abortion) Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:23 a.m.

Was a topic started that did that? * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 8:31 a.m.

Quite often * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:38 a.m.

I disagree but that is what we do. I have never seen an entire subject thread start with 10EC 6/13/2019 - 8:49 a.m.

Maybe, maybe not...but threads do tend to veer into their own directions. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:51 a.m.

it sounds like you acknowledged that such comments are reactionary * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 8:59 a.m.

Most people that aren't trolls try to start discussion without demeaning others. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 11:41 p.m.

I was born in Mississippi - I am one of the people you think I demeaned? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 11:49 p.m.

No I don't think you included yourself. Just the unwashed. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 11:57 p.m.

Then how did that impact you? * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 7:55 a.m.

Well duh, everyone that doesn't agree with her is the unwashed. * Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 8:31 a.m.

Yeah, here we go with the "deplorables" syndrome again. Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:40 a.m.

Come on. UFNY 6/13/2019 - 8:41 a.m.

I saw it as saying that there may be a correlation. Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:47 a.m.

Why do you feel the need to protect someone chucking grenades this week? * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 8:54 a.m.

You think I am some weak woman who needs to be protected? LOL That is funny! * GR82BaFLG8R 6/16/2019 - 2:10 p.m.

I didn't think of it as protecting someone. I think it was more that my own perception of the Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 9:14 a.m.

Offended? No..... it was bait.... responses were pretty standard for such. * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 9:23 a.m.

As such, when such posts are clearly meant as bait, this will be my response: Thunder 6/13/2019 - 9:45 a.m.

Have you spent any time in Tennessee by any chance? * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 10:25 a.m.

Some of your better work right there. * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 10:53 a.m.

Exactly. Twice is a trend. * Inspector Vol 6/13/2019 - 9:34 a.m.

yes it is. it's obvious that the thread was started for entertainment * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 9:44 a.m.

RE: Why do you feel the need to protect someone chucking grenades this week? FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 9:02 a.m.

Add pretty much everything Gordo posts to the list. Thanks. * Beachmaster 6/12/2019 - 9:28 p.m.

We have already had a ruling on him. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 11:58 p.m.

Nevertheless, I persisted. * Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 12:26 p.m.

Let Gordon decide. InvestiGator 6/12/2019 - 9:27 p.m.

Sure, we are all about debate. No reason to limit voices. * GordonDawg 6/13/2019 - 6:57 a.m.

RE: Mississippi (my birth state), Alabama, Louisiana, Georgia, and Missouri vs Illinois Beachmaster 6/12/2019 - 9:19 p.m.

Nice rant. Anything of substance to contribute? * Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:19 a.m.

yes, I noted the misogynistic comment below. Luckily I am at peace with myself! ;) * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:53 p.m.

RE: yes, I noted the misogynistic comment below. Luckily I am at peace with myself! ;) Beachmaster 6/13/2019 - 11:47 a.m.

Those who act like trolls shouldn't call anyone troll harems. * Thunder 6/13/2019 - 12:10 p.m.

Misogynistic is a Lounge trigger word, just saying...:-) * Native 6/12/2019 - 10:49 p.m.

The dislike button would be handy here. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 9:16 p.m.

So would a post discussing one's disagreement with it. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 7:57 a.m.

Some posts don't require such a discussion. Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:07 a.m.

See...that was a good discussion! * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:17 a.m.

It was made obsolete by the iGnOReD button. * Beachmaster 6/12/2019 - 9:27 p.m.

When someone uses the ignore button that much as they claim... Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:23 a.m.

Ahh, the worn out liberal tactic trying to claim conservatives are stupid * chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 8:52 p.m.

not stupid, less educated..... JimG8R 6/13/2019 - 10:22 a.m.

true, but more educated =/= more intelligent. Far from it actually, but the assumption is typically FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 12:14 p.m.

I respect anyone's right to believe in and worship whatever deity they please..... JimG8R 6/13/2019 - 5:42 p.m.

the last sentence is all on you, I said I was a conservative Christian FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 5:53 p.m.

We don't get to hold our religious values up by law in America - it's unconstitutional!.... * JimG8R 6/13/2019 - 6:00 p.m.

uh, where did that come from? * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 6:04 p.m.

response to your last sentence in previous post, and mine and Jefferson's final statement on matter * JimG8R 6/14/2019 - 12:36 p.m.

Your last sentence is where the whole thing seems to go awry on both sides. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 2:57 p.m.

please explain, I don't understand what youre saying * FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 4:15 p.m.

You said "To each their own I guess" Mudlizard 6/14/2019 - 7:44 a.m.

again, where did writing laws get injected? I was speaking of religious beliefs * FLVOL 6/14/2019 - 8:13 a.m.

A distinction with very little difference. Thunder 6/13/2019 - 12:13 p.m.

Why is it when people speak in OBVIOUSLY overly general terms, people who KNOW it doesn't apply to Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 2:49 p.m.

So counter my argument. Worn out? It seems like there is a correlation to me. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:11 p.m.

Well of course it would to you chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:24 p.m.

Yep. They'll take what their coastal superiors give them and like it. * UFNY 6/12/2019 - 9:01 p.m.

I will have to check a map. Illinois is not coastal last I checked. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:15 p.m.

You’re gonna hang your hat on semantics? UFNY 6/12/2019 - 9:19 p.m.

Nah I am just pretty sure you would have pointed it out if the shoe had been on the other foot. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 10:09 p.m.

Nope, I would have addressed the core idea. UFNY 6/13/2019 - 6:38 a.m.

Before you all explode over "questionable religious views" I say that because I know people in many GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 8:50 p.m.

Yes.... thou shall not kill is soooooo outdated. * 10EC 6/12/2019 - 8:42 p.m.

It is not killing. Simple as that. More people agree with me than with you. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 8:50 p.m.

Then why can someone be convicted of murder if an unborn baby is killed by a drunk driver? 10EC 6/12/2019 - 8:57 p.m.

Is this true when the woman is 10 weeks pregnant? Please cite the law. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:13 p.m.

While I am getting it.... what are your thoughts if it is the law? Human or not? * 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:15 p.m.

RE: Is this true when the woman is 10 weeks pregnant? Please cite the law. FLVOL 6/12/2019 - 9:14 p.m.

Your own link disputes this and specifically cites abortion!!!!!!! GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:17 p.m.

Didn’t say the laws were written otherwise. I asked if you agreed it should be murder 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:24 p.m.

No I do not agree. See reply to UFNY above. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:25 p.m.

Your answer below seems inconsistent.You believe it should or should not be murder in my DD scenario * 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:29 p.m.

I am not a lawyer. Is it vehicular homicide? A tragic accident, Drunk Driving. Like I said if the GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:33 p.m.

but not the drunk driver scenario which is the freaking topic * FLVOL 6/12/2019 - 9:18 p.m.

ooopppps sorry I do not engage with you. I don't have you on ignore, but I may have to change that. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:24 p.m.

sure, you must really hate being proven wrong repeatedly by a man * FLVOL 6/12/2019 - 9:28 p.m.

Why did you feel the need to play that card? * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:02 a.m.

because I'm playing a game of which she created both the rules and the environment FLVOL 6/13/2019 - 8:05 a.m.

I asked the question because I was curious why you did so. Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:20 a.m.

It's apparently like Schrodinger's Cat. UFNY 6/12/2019 - 9:02 p.m.

No, the gestational timeline changes it. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:13 p.m.

So if one is 4 weeks pregnant and thus in a crash...... UFNY 6/12/2019 - 9:17 p.m.

I think if a woman miscarried because of a crash the harm to her is enough to prosecute. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:23 p.m.

Prosecute for murder? How is that possible in your world where it is NOT A HUMAN yet? * 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:27 p.m.

At a point that we all need to agree on I think it should have rights and should be protected. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:29 p.m.

Why 12 weeks? chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:32 p.m.

No I am no opposed to them. In MY mind for MY life I could not have an abortion GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:35 p.m.

So you DON'T support any restrictions after 12 weeks and DON'T think the fetus has any rights? chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:38 p.m.

I agree we need to come up with a time frame that pisses off the least people. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:48 p.m.

I have never given you a time line chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 10:01 p.m.

LOL you bash my word choice yet you say abortion is "chic" There is nothing "chic" about abortion. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 10:27 p.m.

Planned Parenthood tries to portray abortion as “chic” chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 10:54 p.m.

Planned Parenthood is trying to end the shaming of women. GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:01 p.m.

Shocked? No. Disappointed? Yes. They SHOULD be ashamed chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:10 p.m.

You don't get to decide that for everyone. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 11:22 p.m.

How about sexually abusing a child or 10s of thousands of them? That is not worse? or as bad? GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 11:21 p.m.

Surely you can see the difference Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:24 a.m.

Legal Abortion IMO is not killing a child. They neglected the law for DECADES and allowed children GR82BaFLG8R 6/14/2019 - 9:48 p.m.

Uh, that is not the point; it's about removing stigma and shame, not being "chic" but it's not Native 6/13/2019 - 8:29 a.m.

It is a shameful thing.... * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 8:51 a.m.

No. It is sad. It is unexpected.It is painful. It is best avoided when possible. It is NOT shameful. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 7:18 p.m.

So are those that perform the procedure. * 10EC 6/13/2019 - 10:54 p.m.

Well said! * Native 6/13/2019 - 9:13 p.m.

That's your opinion, to which you are entitled, but not everyone agrees * Native 6/13/2019 - 8:52 a.m.

For you.... what changes at 12 weeks? * 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:37 p.m.

Ok, so 0-12 Not Human... after 12 Human. Curious what 12 week change factor is for you... * 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:32 p.m.

24 weeks is a more logical point. There is a chance of survival outside of the womb. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:37 p.m.

Why is that more logical than 12, the arbitrary time originally set by Roe? chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:40 p.m.

Viability outside of the womb would be my choice point in time, but GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:50 p.m.

12 weeks was abandoned soon after Roe chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 10:01 p.m.

Abandoned by whom? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 10:29 p.m.

by the courts. * chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 10:49 p.m.

As far as I know the Supreme Court still upholds the following GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 7:35 p.m.

Which is beyond 12 weeks. So your point? * chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 8:11 p.m.

I’ll take any incremental step I can get. But you went from 12 to 24. 10EC 6/12/2019 - 9:38 p.m.

Prove it. * chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 8:53 p.m.

Prove that it is. 75% of us say it isn't. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:12 p.m.

You said it is simple, so prove it chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:20 p.m.

I DO NOT belittle people who have a different belief system! I just will NOT ALLOW them to GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:28 p.m.

I do not want you to adopt my beliefs at all chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:31 p.m.

Well you should set up your own nation then. GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:38 p.m.

We are a constitutional republic...not a democracy. * BelmontGator 6/12/2019 - 10:41 p.m.

We are a Republic for a reason chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 9:41 p.m.

My right not to have your religion imposed on me is in that same document! GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 9:56 p.m.

It's sad that anyone would equate supporting the right to life=imposition of religion. Thunder 6/13/2019 - 8:48 a.m.

Why does opposing abortion, murder, theft, etc. necessarily equate to religion? Certainly there MichiGator 6/13/2019 - 6:33 a.m.

It does not for me, but I can not think of anyone who does not use some form of religion to justify GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:23 p.m.

Why is using religion an invalid basis for supporting or opposing an issue? Thunder 6/14/2019 - 8:34 a.m.

There are countless individuals who don't use religion as a basis for oppsing abortion. And MichiGator 6/13/2019 - 8:44 p.m.

Thank you. I try to learn something new every day. I will check them out GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 11:42 p.m.

I am not enforcing my religion on to you chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 10:04 p.m.

Strictly your opinion! Mine is just as valuable and different. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 10:30 p.m.

When you opinion reaches into my uterus there is a grave sin all right. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 10:31 p.m.

Forcing me to fund murder is inexcusable * chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 10:55 p.m.

War? Death Penalty? You pay for both of those. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 11:34 p.m.

And I oppose them politically as well * chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 6:41 a.m.

But you have no choice but to pay for them. We do not have a system GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:17 p.m.

So your opposition is political and not religious? * GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 7:09 p.m.

It is humanitarian chemosabe 6/13/2019 - 7:53 p.m.

Your opinion. My humanitarian interest is in the woman who is already here GR82BaFLG8R 6/13/2019 - 8:13 p.m.

This was a good discussion IMO. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 8:20 a.m.

Perhaps someone can find it, but I heard on the radio that 75% of the population is in favor. . . . Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 8:23 p.m.

I wonder what the breakdown on this board is. I am in that 75%! * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 8:31 p.m.

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Rep. Stefanik humiliated Adam Schiff today. She has the receipts!!! (Link)...... GordonDawg 6/12/2019 - 8:04 p.m. Edited by Author on 6/12/2019 - 8:05 p.m.

Edited by Author on 6/12/2019 - 8:05 p.m.

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Black drivers in Missouri studegator 6/12/2019 - 7:20 p.m.

This is awful. * GR82BaFLG8R 6/12/2019 - 8:22 p.m.

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New POTUS preference poll is out: Hobbes 6/12/2019 - 6:43 p.m.

RE: New POTUS preference poll is out: Hobbes 6/12/2019 - 6:44 p.m.

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7 Florida Men and 1 Florida Woman arrested for dog fighting

Hobbes 6/12/2019 - 5:04 p.m.

RE: 7 Florida Men and 1 Florida Woman arrested for dog fighting DaZeD 6/12/2019 - 5:37 p.m.

FIFY: 7 Florida Men and 1 Florida Woman arrested for Florida dog fighting * Flea 6/12/2019 - 5:21 p.m.

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McConnell: Dems socialist schemes will not become law on my watch (link)... GordonDawg 6/12/2019 - 4:54 p.m.

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Liberal pretzel logic VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 3:57 p.m. Starred by 4 People

Starred by 4 People

RE: Liberal pretzel logic Mudlizard 6/12/2019 - 4:00 p.m.

So laws should only be enforced on the priviledged and forgiven for the poor. * VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 4:17 p.m.

I have no idea who said that. I am for obeying the law. * Mudlizard 6/13/2019 - 7:43 a.m.

There is the well heeled alumni giving copiously to get athletes and call them students Mississippi Vol 6/12/2019 - 5:13 p.m.

That's not illegal is it? ;-) * VOLMAN 6/13/2019 - 7:53 a.m.

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House panel advanced the 9-11 victims bill without opposition today. * Mudlizard 6/12/2019 - 3:35 p.m.

This may be unpopular but why should they receive benefits that other first responders DurangoGator 6/12/2019 - 4:02 p.m.

WOW, did I misunderstand. I just heard a blurb on the news and I thought it was to VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 4:13 p.m.

RE: WOW, did I misunderstand. I just heard a blurb on the news and I thought it was to Flea 6/12/2019 - 5:26 p.m.

RE: WOW, did I misunderstand. I just heard a blurb on the news and I thought it was to aubie in bham 6/12/2019 - 7:12 p.m.

RE: WOW, did I misunderstand. I just heard a blurb on the news and I thought it was to Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 5:31 p.m.

Here is an explanation as to the fund and its evolution Mudlizard 6/12/2019 - 4:10 p.m.

I understand the fund but I don’t understand why you compensate a first responder differently DurangoGator 6/12/2019 - 4:23 p.m.

That's been my view all along. UFNY 6/12/2019 - 4:05 p.m.

As they should have! * VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 3:44 p.m.

Hannity Must've Made a Call or Two... DaZeD 6/12/2019 - 3:42 p.m.

RE: Hannity Must've Made a Call or Two... Mudlizard 6/12/2019 - 3:52 p.m.

Celebrity spokesmen are frowned upon now? Dawgzilla 6/12/2019 - 4:40 p.m.

And Jon Stewart has been on this issue sincerely for 17 years I believe * lurch 6/12/2019 - 7:51 p.m.

If anyone has walked the talk, it's him * Native 6/13/2019 - 8:08 a.m.

Yes... DaZeD 6/12/2019 - 5:28 p.m.

RE: Hannity Must've Made a Call or Two... UFNY 6/12/2019 - 4:03 p.m.

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AP: Biden says LGBT rights will be TOP legislative priority. What happened to curing cancer? GordonDawg 6/12/2019 - 3:21 p.m.

Perhaps Biden lifted this from West Wing. . . . Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 8:28 p.m.

RE: AP: Biden says LGBT rights will be TOP legislative priority. What happened to curing cancer? Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 5:32 p.m.

Trump Refuses To Undergo CHEMO....?? * DaZeD 6/12/2019 - 3:34 p.m.

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They have no compunction at all about VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 1:39 p.m.

It reminded me of Trump claiming he would pay off the $19 trillion US debt in 8 years - both absurd * dudehead 6/12/2019 - 5:28 p.m.

And replace O'care with something much better and much cheaper. Get a better deal with Iran trash 6/12/2019 - 6:25 p.m.

Wel, Trump did say that since the Dow was up $5T in his first year that that lowered the debt. . . Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 5:34 p.m.

It doesn't even remotely "take the cake" for me... GatorDJ 6/12/2019 - 1:42 p.m.

Just imagine if we emphasized creating jobs that actually solved our problems, like green industry Native 6/13/2019 - 8:09 a.m.

Except that govt doesn't create jobs, and its record of trying to in the private sector is abysmal. * UFNY 6/13/2019 - 8:11 a.m.

Uh, what? Let me introduce you to the defense budget. * GatorDJ 6/13/2019 - 9:55 a.m.

Article I saw today about that. Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 4:04 p.m.

I sympathize with his personal experience with the disease but that has VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 2:51 p.m.

I hope he misspoke. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 2:55 p.m.

Chemo would need to weigh in on this one, but I don't think "curing cancer" is possible. * UFNY 6/12/2019 - 1:58 p.m.

It made me sad to hear him say it chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 2:59 p.m.

RE: It made me sad to hear him say it Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 5:36 p.m.

I do not know chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 6:21 p.m.

Again, I sympathize with his personal experience but I thought it was VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 3:04 p.m.

I saw someone ask the question that if he isn't elected, he won't cure cancer? * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 3:12 p.m.

Trum said that if Trump is not elected then Dems would all get cancer. * Top Cat 6/12/2019 - 8:30 p.m.

I think his quote was, if elected WE would cure cancer chemosabe 6/12/2019 - 3:32 p.m.

It is and doesn't really bother me. Just makes me roll my eyes and dread the lead up to voting. * Inspector Vol 6/12/2019 - 4:00 p.m.

Well it is a question that begs to be asked. * VOLMAN 6/12/2019 - 3:20 p.m.

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