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• Media Bias Chart Flea 1/30/2018 - 12:07 a.m.
• Mud, Please pin this link. InvestiGator 6/5/2017 - 10:36 p.m.

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This moron...voted for Trump but now has a sadz his border wall will destroy the butterfly habitat Native 12/17/2018 - 1:11 p.m.
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Mueller responds to Rudy's latest nonsense on Flynn, as only Mueller can Native 12/17/2018 - 1:03 p.m.
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Lamar Alexander announces he won't run for re-election in 2020. * Native 12/17/2018 - 12:27 p.m.
• I hate him for how he used UT as a stepping stone * 10EC 12/17/2018 - 1:11 p.m.
• The point is the Rs are going to be defending a lot more Senate seats than in 2018. * Native 12/17/2018 - 1:12 p.m.
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Alan Dershowitz and Rudy Giuliani Hobbes 12/17/2018 - 12:01 p.m.
• Popehat is going to get one of those Dershowitz letters... Dawgzilla 12/17/2018 - 12:24 p.m.
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Welp, the writing on the wall wasn't read aubie in bham 12/17/2018 - 11:47 a.m.
• good, it is time for them to be irrelevant. * BBG 12/17/2018 - 11:54 a.m.
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So proud to call him POTUS. . . .and Comey's response. . . . Top Cat 12/17/2018 - 11:14 a.m.
• the silence from the R's on this is repugnant and un-American - period. * BBG 12/17/2018 - 11:22 a.m.
• Extreme devotion to the leader(s), and refusal to acknowledge criticism of the leader(s). Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 11:33 a.m.
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Good read on lessons from Spiro Agnew that can be applied to the current criminal administration Native 12/17/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• His ego will not allow him to resign. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:29 a.m.
• nope. I agree with you. He will fight. Also, I am not sure I agree with these "cracks" BBG 12/17/2018 - 9:38 a.m.
• Cassidy, Rubio, a couple others starting to talk about concerns of his criminality Native 12/17/2018 - 9:47 a.m.
• NBC misquoted Cassidy and created a false narrative. He is with Trump. * GordonDawg 12/17/2018 - 12:13 p.m.
• LOL, keep telling yourself that, Gordo! * Native 12/17/2018 - 12:17 p.m.
• All these guys talk a big game ...... they're less effective at actually doing stuff * BBG 12/17/2018 - 9:49 a.m.
• True, but Mueller is laying this out in a way that most are not going to be able to deny Native 12/17/2018 - 9:54 a.m.
• From the article I linked, these characteristics of a totalistic cult argue against most being Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 10:05 a.m.
• Name-calling is about all they've got. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:53 a.m.
• Perhaps the most hypocritical statement ever made on this board. * BelmontGator 12/17/2018 - 11:53 a.m.
• Says the one who calls the Vice President "Ayatollah" Pence * Thunder 12/17/2018 - 9:54 a.m.
• But "Ayatollah" Pence is funny because it's true * Native 12/17/2018 - 10:17 a.m.
• You're wasting your time. If the point isn't favorable, the messenger must be attacked. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 10:30 a.m.
• Can't stand for your hypocrisy to be pointed out? Thunder 12/17/2018 - 10:33 a.m.
• His name calling has been his MO here for years. * BelmontGator 12/17/2018 - 11:52 a.m.
• this is a basically anonymous message board. only the willfully ignorant can conflate things trash 12/17/2018 - 12:58 p.m.
• the lounge has a long history of name-calling, and from both sides. * BBG 12/17/2018 - 11:54 a.m.
• Only pinheads call names. * Hobbes 12/17/2018 - 12:04 p.m.
• Nuh, uh poopypants. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 12:08 p.m.
• there was somebody here who referred to Clinton as "hildabeast" and Obama as "B'lack" * BBG 12/17/2018 - 12:10 p.m.
• O'Bummer, 0bama, Barry, Hussein, etc. I find it hilarious that simply pointing out that the Rs Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 12:22 p.m.
• RE: But "Ayatollah" Pence is funny because it's true Thunder 12/17/2018 - 10:19 a.m.
• I don't see any cracks in the cult's faith, either. Here's a really good read on what it'll take Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:44 a.m.
• Oh, not the cult, they will hang in there to the bitter end. * Native 12/17/2018 - 9:48 a.m.
• Of course, and then they'll spin it to reinforce their own righteousness, just like the cult in Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:52 a.m.
• He will have no choice, resign or go to prison. * Native 12/17/2018 - 9:33 a.m.
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Can umbrage ever be given, or is it always taken? * Dawgzilla 12/17/2018 - 9:03 a.m.
• Well, Harry thought she should have been taken away... Thunder 12/17/2018 - 9:04 a.m.
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Eugene has a lot of agreement with Zilla on standing etc . . . Wayne 12/17/2018 - 8:54 a.m.
• It's funny, because I was re-thinking my position after I posted it.... Dawgzilla 12/17/2018 - 12:01 p.m.
• Josh Blackmun not Eugene Hobbes 12/17/2018 - 11:40 a.m.
• Hmm . . . the article had Eugene in the tag line. / / / ah now I see. * Wayne 12/17/2018 - 11:48 a.m.
• Hmm . . . the article had Eugene in the tag line. / / / ah now I see. Hobbes 12/17/2018 - 11:54 a.m.
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Brits being told not to go on holiday after March 29th, because they can't guarantee you'll get back Native 12/17/2018 - 8:18 a.m.
• Vlad is glad. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:09 a.m.
• Da, Comrade! Worth every one of those rubles he laundered through the NRA * Native 12/17/2018 - 9:11 a.m.
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Kurt Bardella: I became a Democrat a year ago, and it changed my view on everything Native 12/17/2018 - 8:10 a.m.
• I gave up being a democrat in 1968 and have felt more like an American ever since. * humpgator 12/17/2018 - 10:24 a.m.
• I'm sure that Gov Wallace appreciated your vote for President that year. * Jethro 12/17/2018 - 12:29 p.m.
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Issa thinks a judge will throw out Flynn's plea bargain Native 12/17/2018 - 7:38 a.m.
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Why so many lack empathy for those struggling with healthcare costs. A pastor explains. Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 10:47 p.m.
• I have sympathy not empathy as I am not sure what those who struggle feel iPhoneHobbes 12/17/2018 - 10:59 a.m.
• I have experienced the struggle, so I say empathy. You are correct in your distinction. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 11:14 a.m.
• Trump and his party ran on fixing (repeal and replace ) the ACA. They had total control of BBG 12/17/2018 - 9:14 a.m.
• They've really boxed themselves in since they lied in November about protection pre-existing Native 12/17/2018 - 9:23 a.m.
• Empathy is not A and B deciding to take C's money Wayne 12/17/2018 - 7:03 a.m.
• Empathy is not A caring more about B and C 3rdWardGator 12/17/2018 - 12:36 p.m.
• Necessary evil though in a "civilized" society? Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 9:08 a.m.
• You assume a lack of empathy . . . Wayne 12/17/2018 - 9:14 a.m.
• Then let's try prioritization 3rdWardGator 12/17/2018 - 12:39 p.m.
• I get we all have priorities, and I get that empathy can't be forced upon others Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 9:20 a.m.
• The issue is who’s definition of “less fortunate” do we use? DurangoGator 12/17/2018 - 9:51 a.m.
• I can't make that determination. Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 10:00 a.m.
• However your choice of elected officials will make that determination. * DurangoGator 12/17/2018 - 10:22 a.m.
• Bastiat . . . Government . . . Wayne 12/17/2018 - 10:55 a.m.
• This reminds me of something.... * VOLMAN 12/17/2018 - 11:05 a.m.
• My primary objection in this thread is indeed the use of language . . . Wayne 12/17/2018 - 9:44 a.m.
• As always, you give me more to consider than when we began. * Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 9:56 a.m.
• RE: I get we all have priorities, and I get that empathy can't be forced upon others Mississippi Vol 12/17/2018 - 9:28 a.m.
• Thanks for sharing that. I enjoyed it., * Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 9:44 a.m.
• "Is it true that political self-interest is nobler some how than economic self-interest?" Wayne 12/17/2018 - 9:39 a.m.
• Do the ends justify the means? Thunder 12/17/2018 - 9:10 a.m.
• Dictators? I thought we were talking about governmental intervention? * Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 9:12 a.m.
• I would say Wayne's example is dictatorial in spirit. Thunder 12/17/2018 - 9:16 a.m.
• Not if it's mandated by our elected officials. * Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• How is it that association with a majority bestows empathy on the group? * Mississippi Vol 12/17/2018 - 9:45 a.m.
• Like SF giving 90k+ to every homeless person and still finding it necessary to spend VOLMAN 12/17/2018 - 9:45 a.m.
• Then they can lead by example Thunder 12/17/2018 - 9:25 a.m.
• Empathy is at best a part of such mandates. UFNY 12/17/2018 - 9:24 a.m.
• Correct, as usual. Thunder 12/17/2018 - 8:41 a.m.
• Yes, this would be empathy! * VOLMAN 12/17/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• your answer cuts right through the shaming tactic * FLVOL 12/17/2018 - 8:26 a.m.
• I think most everyone agrees the system is broken. UFNY 12/17/2018 - 6:53 a.m.
• Anyone who needs to fear something happening to them to have empathy 3rdWardGator 12/17/2018 - 3:46 a.m.
• Absolutely, as are those who think empathy equals money, in some bizarre zero sum exercise. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:01 a.m.
• Here's a test...will the conservatives care/be empathetic when it doesn't affect their wallets? Native 12/17/2018 - 9:18 a.m.
• Don't count on empathy from those who can only view issues through the lens of money. * Beachmaster 12/17/2018 - 9:32 a.m.
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What happened to the Assange meeting with Manafort?? I think that turned out to be what we call... GordonDawg 12/16/2018 - 7:54 p.m.
• You new VS Lounge name is.... BBG 12/16/2018 - 9:41 p.m.
• This post goes against namecalling rules Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 8:21 a.m.
• Real news: Russia used every social media platform to help elect Trump Native 12/16/2018 - 8:56 p.m.
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Dang, even NPR is dumping on the Russia Investigation (link)...... GordonDawg 12/16/2018 - 7:54 p.m.
• It's like putting away an Agatha Christie novel about 100 pages before it ends. * Mudlizard 12/17/2018 - 8:14 a.m.
• LOL-that's commentary from one contributor, NOT NPR's editorial position. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 10:52 p.m.
• Congrats to G-dawg, found another writer who doesn't know what Mueller knows. * trash 12/17/2018 - 8:01 a.m.
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FBI released document intel officials used to brief Trump on Steele dossier Native 12/16/2018 - 5:11 p.m.
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Trump threatens to sue SNL over last night's cold opener (Hmm, Individual-1 must have tuned in) Native 12/16/2018 - 5:01 p.m.
• The failing SNL? The one nobody watches? * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 5:52 p.m.
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Deere lowererd Stephen Miller's hair Hobbes 12/16/2018 - 2:11 p.m.
• David Hogg's third degree burn Native 12/16/2018 - 5:12 p.m.
• He couldnt get laid in a whorehouse with a fistful of hundred dollar bills.. * UGADawginVA 12/16/2018 - 2:14 p.m.
• I bet he could in Slovenia. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 4:44 p.m.
• Melanie nods in agreement * Native 12/16/2018 - 5:13 p.m.
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Excellent ! The merchants of addiction lose court ruling, must release their secret OxyContin Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 1:42 p.m.
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Fox News’ Chris Wallace Takes Rudy Giuliani Apart: ‘I’m Asking You for the Truth, Sir’ UGADawginVA 12/16/2018 - 12:34 p.m.
• Did y'all catch this one: the collusion was over by the election Native 12/16/2018 - 5:19 p.m.
• With a lawyer like that, I'd be bringing a toothbrush and clean underwear to court. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 5:50 p.m.
• Comey admitted this week that he only talked about Clinton bc he worried about leaks to Ghouliani Native 12/16/2018 - 1:36 p.m.
• Truth isn't truth, according to Rudy. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 1:11 p.m.
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How much is the life of a Turkish cleric worth? $15 million? Native 12/16/2018 - 9:44 a.m.
• Sofa cushion change for MBS. I see Individual 1 and Jared have gotten their marching orders. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 12:36 p.m.
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The Atlantic: How did the GOP become so corrupt? Native 12/16/2018 - 9:24 a.m.
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Is Rebekah Mercer the secret GJ subponea being fought in DC on Friday? Native 12/16/2018 - 8:47 a.m.
• I HAD NOTHING TO DO WITH THAT. * GatorJamie 12/17/2018 - 12:05 a.m.
• Gator Jamie Suponeas sound like a cool grunge band, just saying! * Native 12/17/2018 - 8:11 a.m.
• Heck of an album title. * GatorDJ 12/17/2018 - 8:39 a.m.
• Oh, I hope so. The Queen of Hate needs to be investigated. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 11:38 a.m.
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Trump's new chief of staff Mick Mulvaney called Trump a "terrible human being." Top Cat 12/15/2018 - 9:05 p.m.
• Who could disagree with him? * atlgator85 12/16/2018 - 6:42 a.m.
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As the Trumps Dodged Taxes, Their Tenants Paid a Price UGADawginVA 12/15/2018 - 8:09 p.m.
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Stunning CNN Graphic Captures the Full Scope of Investigations Into President Trump UGADawginVA 12/15/2018 - 6:29 p.m.
• I hope those who don't follow things closely are paying attention. This is unprecedented. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 11:51 a.m.
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Reading that overturning this ruling will not be as easy as the early analysis indicated. Roberts GordonDawg 12/15/2018 - 5:17 p.m.
• Lol. ..please...explain how our courts work 3rdWardGator 12/16/2018 - 5:26 a.m.
• The Texas Judge will be reversed . . . his opinion Wayne 12/15/2018 - 8:39 p.m.
• RE: The Texas Judge will be reversed . . . his opinion iPhoneHobbes 12/15/2018 - 8:44 p.m.
• I'm curious about the standing arguments, at least the ones I have read... Dawgzilla 12/15/2018 - 10:45 p.m.
• There are various perspectives on standing.... GatorDJ 12/16/2018 - 7:45 a.m.
• RE: There are various perspectives on standing.... Wayne 12/17/2018 - 10:18 a.m.
• ;) :) Inspector Vol 12/17/2018 - 10:28 a.m.
• Lol * Golden Gator 12/16/2018 - 6:07 p.m.
• Haven't seen the standing stuff. But unfortunately I agree with their severability argument. * Wayne 12/15/2018 - 8:51 p.m.
• The Pubs have already proven they have no plan; repeal and lose elections lurch 12/15/2018 - 7:38 p.m.
• Do you think that orange turd has ANY ideas??? on anything?? You give him too much credit. * UGADawginVA 12/15/2018 - 6:35 p.m.
• MML * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 6:29 p.m.
• Where are you "reading" this? Please provide citations because nothing else I'm reading agrees Native 12/15/2018 - 5:26 p.m.
• Appellate filing fees aren’t that THAT expensive. . * iPhoneHobbes 12/15/2018 - 5:23 p.m.
• I think the Feds will back out of an appeal. That would leave only California on the appeal. Even GordonDawg 12/15/2018 - 5:25 p.m.
• Uhh, you do realize DOJ declined to defend it? Would make zero sense for them to appeal this Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 6:28 p.m.
• It won't just be California, probably every blue state will sign on * Native 12/15/2018 - 5:29 p.m.
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Am I the only one that thinks it's odd that Ivanka has an "ethics attorney" with a statement ready Native 12/15/2018 - 4:45 p.m.
• Well, this was the admin. which granted unprecedented ethics waivers and refused ethics training. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 6:58 p.m.
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Finally, someone has created a revised and improved children's bible for evangelicals Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 2:06 p.m.
• And this. So much this. (NSFW) Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 12:31 p.m.
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George W. Bush appointed Judge Reed O'Connor. It was one of Bush's few good calls. This shows you GordonDawg 12/15/2018 - 12:14 p.m.
• I thought the right hated judicial activism Native 12/15/2018 - 1:34 p.m.
• But hey, there's always a bright side! Native 12/15/2018 - 1:41 p.m.
• Also, quote someone else who isn't desperately trying to marry into the Kennedy family. Would carry GordonDawg 12/15/2018 - 1:46 p.m.
• LOL, you don't get to tell me whom to post and quote, and that ad hominem has nothing to do with Native 12/15/2018 - 1:49 p.m.
• Can't beat the facts? Attack the speaker. A unique strategy. GatorJamie 12/15/2018 - 4:59 p.m.
• Next step is to whine and cry when the ad hominems are called out, and call for Native to be Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 11:46 a.m.
• Even the nutso government in California turned down universal health care as too expensive. There GordonDawg 12/15/2018 - 1:45 p.m.
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Popehat has inside source that details Drumpf’s chief of staff search: iPhoneHobbes 12/15/2018 - 11:44 a.m.
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David French forgets first fundamentals of fools iPhoneHobbes 12/15/2018 - 11:27 a.m.
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Breaking: Ryan Zinke to resign. * GatorDJ 12/15/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• also, I have used the term "criminal enterprise" to describe Trump and his family/associates. Check BBG 12/15/2018 - 12:17 p.m.
• Dang, was really looking forward to his being subpoenaed before numerous house committees * trash 12/15/2018 - 12:10 p.m.
• And, there's nothing to stop them from still doing it, after all...the Republican House Native 12/16/2018 - 1:34 p.m.
• Donnie's cabinet is gonna resemble his Thanksgiving supper table soon BBG 12/15/2018 - 9:38 a.m.
• One step ahead of the Inspector General, like his equally ethically challenged buddy Pruitt. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:25 a.m.
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A couple of good reads on the ACA ruling Native 12/15/2018 - 8:36 a.m.
• Volokh Conspiracy is hardly "conservative" as that word is now used and understood * Hobbes 12/15/2018 - 11:03 a.m.
• Okay, well that's how his column was described to me * Native 12/15/2018 - 11:28 a.m.
• Volokh believes in due process, rule of law, value of precedent, opposes growing police state iPhoneHobbes 12/15/2018 - 11:40 a.m.
• Gotcha * Native 12/15/2018 - 1:15 p.m.
• I call them common sense conservatives, a critically endangered species facing extinction. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 2:09 p.m.
• The suit was viewed as deeply flawed by both conservative and liberal scholars alike. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:11 a.m.
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This Daily Beast story on Jared and The National Enquirer is nutso crazy, and Jared was involved Native 12/15/2018 - 8:24 a.m.
• He is amazing. Solving Middle East issue. Driving America's Hi-Tech initiatives. Man can do it all! * Top Cat 12/15/2018 - 8:35 a.m.
• Reorganized government, and that awesome infrastructure plan, too ! * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 8:51 a.m.
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Christmas jingle from facebook Studegator 12/15/2018 - 7:06 a.m.
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Grifters gonna grift...taxpayers on the hook for Jared and Ivanka's luxury vaca... Native 12/15/2018 - 6:10 a.m.
• They think of themselves as "Roylaty", we are their serfs * Studegator 12/15/2018 - 6:41 a.m.
• Their contempt for what they view as the "little people"(basically, all of us) is palpable. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:05 a.m.
• Indeed. And, I know that President's families need protection and are going to have travel expenses Native 12/15/2018 - 6:57 a.m.
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Fed judge in Texas just ruled most of Obamacare unconstitutional. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 9:18 p.m.
• ObamaCare? I thought the GOP and Drumpf had repealed it by now. Just as they had promised. Hobbes 12/15/2018 - 10:58 a.m.
• I think it is the entire law * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 9:21 p.m.
• Y'all are gonna regret this when we end up with Medicare For All * Native 12/14/2018 - 9:42 p.m.
• Yup, this is going to be very interesting... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 9:53 p.m.
• I’d characterize it more as the GOP finally succeeded in throwing a wrench in the last operating trash 12/15/2018 - 7:58 a.m.
• Borowitz: Trump supporters celebrate imminent loss of their health insurance Native 12/15/2018 - 8:15 a.m.
• From what I've seen, the premise seems to be that since Ocare's mandate was found to be a tax, and Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:27 p.m.
• I predict this nonsense gets dismissed by higher courts and if ends up before the Supremes Native 12/14/2018 - 9:55 p.m.
• Never going to happen. It would bankrupt country * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 9:50 p.m.
• Gordon, honest question bro... (edited) KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/15/2018 - 2:20 p.m.
• Thanks for again providing independent concrete evidence. * Top Cat 12/15/2018 - 8:24 a.m.
• Koch-Funded Study Finds Medicare for All Would Save Money While Covering Everyone Studegator 12/15/2018 - 6:38 a.m.
• You are correct, and it will be dismissed here like any inconvenient fact. BTW, I just noticed your Native 12/15/2018 - 7:06 a.m.
• I have read all of Hackworth's books Studegator 12/15/2018 - 9:01 a.m.
• Because it's not a fact Wayne 12/15/2018 - 7:20 a.m.
• Actually, while Factcheck.org criticized some assumptions by Sanders and AOC Native 12/15/2018 - 7:30 a.m.
• So how does single pay expand the pool of providers? Because, without increasing supply, any Mississippi Vol 12/15/2018 - 8:02 a.m.
• Well, now we are getting into the murky area of QUALITY of CARE. As you suggest, MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 10:41 a.m.
• You guys crack me up, do you really think that private insurance would go away in this country if Native 12/15/2018 - 10:56 a.m.
• The inherent flaws with the ACA and Sanders MFA is each focuses on financing, Mississippi Vol 12/15/2018 - 11:41 a.m.
• Imitating Humpty-Dumpty, huh? :) Anyway, nobody has suggested that private insurance will MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 11:08 a.m.
• Your last sentence says it all. You CAN'T keep your doctor. Something must give. * UFNY 12/15/2018 - 10:43 a.m.
• And that may be okay with many. The point, as you note, is that reality must be faced MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 10:52 a.m.
• Problem is, it'll be great for those with no coverage and bad for everyone else. UFNY 12/15/2018 - 10:55 a.m.
• That's just not true, at least IMO bro. For instance... KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/15/2018 - 3:20 p.m.
• Above my paygrade, but I'm pretty sure that if other countries can figure this out, we can too! * Native 12/15/2018 - 8:15 a.m.
• Bingo. And all of those countries have far less resources than the USA * KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/15/2018 - 2:25 p.m.
• This is where Chemos expertise is desirable;however, I believe most simply ration. * Mississippi Vol 12/15/2018 - 8:56 a.m.
• Again, they are happier with their health care than we are with ours * Native 12/15/2018 - 9:01 a.m.
• That is simply not germane to the issue of expanding health care while reducing cost. “They” may be Mississippi Vol 12/15/2018 - 9:11 a.m.
• Sorry, but that is ludicrous. Many people in those countries are well aware of the American system KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/15/2018 - 2:28 p.m.
• You’re free to provide an economic argument. Canadian happiness isn’t it. * Mississippi Vol 12/15/2018 - 2:34 p.m.
• No, no..you are changing the discussion. I was responding to your... KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/15/2018 - 2:43 p.m.
• BS, you bought up rationing...I don't know a single Canadian who would swap Native 12/15/2018 - 9:19 a.m.
• No, but I know dozens of Canadiens who travel to the US for healthcare which is not available, MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 10:45 a.m.
• Sure, and thousands of Americans travel to other countries, perhaps you should check out the Native 12/15/2018 - 10:54 a.m.
• Exactly. Choices exist, at least for those who can afford them. The point being that even Canada MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 11:18 a.m.
• Where did I say any system was perfect? My argument is that every other country does it Native 12/15/2018 - 11:30 a.m.
• First, I said that. Never suggested that you did. As to "every other country in the world MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 12:06 p.m.
• You did complain about Canada not being perfect, so excuse me for slapping down Native 12/15/2018 - 1:18 p.m.
• And Canada is not perfect .... far from it, in fact. In relative terms, there are aspects of its MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 1:50 p.m.
• Again, no health care system will ever be perfect. Tricare is one of the best single payer systems Native 12/15/2018 - 2:06 p.m.
• I suppose it has much to do with perspective. I look at it not so much as "complaining" about MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 2:28 p.m.
• It's mere dogma. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:22 a.m.
• Their outcomes are no worse than ours, and they spend half as much per capita. Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:10 a.m.
• Just because someone knows how to replace the head gaskets in my car does not make them Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• When replacing head gaskets, you have the luxury of time and shopping around... KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/15/2018 - 2:35 p.m.
• And you raise an interesting, and important, aspect to the discussion ...... MichiGator 12/15/2018 - 3:01 p.m.
• It would actually save money, but Roberts prolly isn't going to let that happen anyways Native 12/14/2018 - 9:55 p.m.
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Will the NYT or the Washington Post be the downfall of Trump? . . .Not likely. . . Top Cat 12/14/2018 - 9:15 p.m.
• Here’s a good NYT opinion piece on the Michael Cohening of America. Mudlizard 12/15/2018 - 8:04 a.m.
• This passage summarizes it perfectly trash 12/15/2018 - 3:53 p.m.
• Good read, and a cautionary tale that should be heeded, if it's not too late already. Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:00 a.m.
• Good read, especially how those of us that didn't vote for this got drug into this mess * Native 12/15/2018 - 8:41 a.m.
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RGRB - Kasich calls out GOP lame duck power grabs Native 12/14/2018 - 7:41 p.m.
• WI voters need to vote out the Pubs that were responsible for this. * Top Cat 12/15/2018 - 8:25 a.m.
• Kasich is what Republicans used to be. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 8:10 p.m.
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Mick Mulvaney named acting WH Chief of Staff.... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 6:03 p.m.
• RE: Mick Mulvaney named acting WH Chief of Staff.... iPhoneHobbes 12/15/2018 - 11:32 a.m.
• Government by temper tantrum. Awesome. * GatorDJ 12/15/2018 - 11:38 a.m.
• More: he's not going to resign from the Office of Management and Budget... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 9:47 p.m.
• RE: More: he's not going to resign from the Office of Management and Budget... Top Cat 12/15/2018 - 8:27 a.m.
• More: he's not going to resign from the Office of Management and Budget... Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 9:02 a.m.
• I don't think any of it really matters at this point...Trump will continue to flail around but won't Native 12/14/2018 - 9:58 p.m.
• Agreed. * Flea 12/15/2018 - 8:30 a.m.
• RE: Mick Mulvaney named acting WH Chief of Staff.... Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 7:39 p.m.
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Feds still looking at Papadopolous after prison sentence Native 12/14/2018 - 4:58 p.m.
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Waldman: Should Ds be as ruthless as Rs when they get the chance? Native 12/14/2018 - 4:44 p.m.
• They were both in Kavanaugh hearings. It was pure evil putting that... GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 5:01 p.m.
• Unless you're Ds in NJ and you try to codify "evil" into the state constitution. * UFNY 12/14/2018 - 4:45 p.m.
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Found this on a friend's Book of Face. Couldn't have said it any better. Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 4:14 p.m.
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How Speaker Pelosi crushed the pitiful rebellion attempt. Punked them again. Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 3:55 p.m.
• This is good news. Definitely did not need Seth Moulton leading the Democrats. That would be trouble GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 4:17 p.m.
• Funny since Pelosi has accomplished more as minority leader in the last 2 years than has Spkr Ryan * trash 12/14/2018 - 4:40 p.m.
• LOL-it's very good news, indeed. The veteran who has proven herself effective at actually passing Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 4:32 p.m.
• Moulton is an actual veteran. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 4:33 p.m.
• Only been in the House since 2015-still a greenhorn. Oh, and here's more good news Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 4:38 p.m.
• Moulton is a attention whore, I much prefer guys like Eric Swalwell and Adam Schiff Native 12/14/2018 - 6:43 p.m.
• Nothing encourages new blood like punking and crushing. * UFNY 12/14/2018 - 4:05 p.m.
• Her power is quite safe from your pitiful little band. Boggy Creek Gator 12/14/2018 - 4:27 p.m.
• I just find it odd that the regime that lost to trump is defended so energetically. * UFNY 12/14/2018 - 4:31 p.m.
• When I see the very wealthy Pelosi I always think of Whittaker Chambers' statement: Boggy Creek Gator 12/14/2018 - 4:47 p.m.
• RE: When I see the very wealthy McConnell I always think of Whittaker Chambers' statement: FTFY * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 5:38 p.m.
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Mueller responding to Flynn in court now + what's up with this: Mueller GJ mystery roils DC courts Native 12/14/2018 - 3:36 p.m.
• I don't think a judge who is strong on civil rights and brady will buy that nonsense the prosecutors GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 3:45 p.m.
• LOL, I'm sure Michael Cohen, Michael Flynn and Paul Manafort all thought similarly * Native 12/14/2018 - 3:47 p.m.
• This is a different judge. The same one who blasted the government case against Sen. Ted Stevens. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 3:48 p.m.
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Ivanka negotiated those inflated Trump Hotel inauguration prices Native 12/14/2018 - 3:27 p.m.
• This Slate reporting on this "eleven-billionth Trump corruption story of the last 48 hours" is Native 12/14/2018 - 5:32 p.m.
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Jacob Soboroff with more reporting on the 7-year-old refugee's death Native 12/14/2018 - 2:53 p.m.
• Is it different than the article you posted? * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 3:02 p.m.
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WaPo: Trump lies, and few believe him Native 12/14/2018 - 2:38 p.m.
• Ich würde dem zustimmen ... * UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 2:45 p.m.
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Hmmm, what's up with this? Native 12/14/2018 - 2:34 p.m.
• Well, so much for that - Priebus selected to join Navy with backing from Mattis Native 12/14/2018 - 4:39 p.m.
• Sitcom already has written itself... * GatorJamie 12/14/2018 - 7:11 p.m.
• "wants to join the Navy Reserve as a JAG ensign" Really?! As trash can verify, GatorJamie 12/14/2018 - 3:01 p.m.
• This was thirty plus years ago and Bear’s Boy-esque as heck BUT iPhoneHobbes 12/16/2018 - 12:16 p.m.
• What checkered past? * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 7:11 p.m.
• RE: What checkered past? iPhoneHobbes 12/17/2018 - 12:37 a.m.
• 34 yo is the current DOD age restriction for OCS, and individual services have the option of FLVOL 12/14/2018 - 4:16 p.m.
• Bizarre. I hope the Navy has more sense than to allow that. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:41 p.m.
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"Christie pulls out" are three words I never want to read anywhere, in any context Native 12/14/2018 - 1:59 p.m.
• (*cringe*) Yep, I’m gay. * GatorJamie 12/14/2018 - 7:12 p.m.
• What woman wouldn’t turn gay because of Chris Christie? * Jean Voljean 12/14/2018 - 10:35 p.m.
• Another consideration....Trump now has to look past immediate qualifications Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 3:27 p.m.
• Agreed. I guess nobody wants to jump on a sinking ship. Still, it would have made for Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:04 p.m.
• I heard Andy Card talking about the idea of appointing Jared...what a hoot Native 12/14/2018 - 2:21 p.m.
• Jared Kushner has actually accumulated a list of wins lately. USMC deal, Middle East work, etc. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 2:58 p.m.
• Kushner was responsible for NAFTA II, how? What middle east win, exactly? trash 12/14/2018 - 4:55 p.m.
• Link.... GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 4:59 p.m.
• Thanks, Mex was obviously currying favor and attributes no actions whatsoever. ME and etc.? * trash 12/14/2018 - 6:10 p.m.
• Advising MSB how to cover-up a murder, yeah, that's an impressive win! * Native 12/14/2018 - 3:09 p.m.
• Look at this Intercept story from March in light of what happened to Jamal Khashoggi Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 5:46 p.m.
• LOL, that is a theory worthy of Louise Mensch. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 3:10 p.m.
• 1. Louise Mensch has been proven more right than wrong. 2. Mensch is not my source Native 12/14/2018 - 3:13 p.m.
• There is one towering intellect (according to a cultist) he could ask, that he hasn't apparently Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:31 p.m.
• She would be *all over* that (still looking for an excuse to ditch Wasilla) * Native 12/14/2018 - 2:35 p.m.
• Gotta be a real pain to keep having to bail your spawn out of jail. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:36 p.m.
• Honestly..who would want that job??? With that a$$hole as your boss? * UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 2:27 p.m.
• Why, the best people, of course! * Native 12/14/2018 - 2:29 p.m.
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RGRB--No Show Marco twits truth. He'll probably walk it back, but even this baby step Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:31 p.m.
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Trump thanks Apple for agreeing to expand operations in US (link)..... GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 1:30 p.m.
• Apple committed $300B expansion during Obama administration, but you keep posting #badword# anyway * Top Cat 12/14/2018 - 3:20 p.m.
• Breaking news: Trump takes credit for something (else) he had nothing to do with. * trash 12/14/2018 - 3:06 p.m.
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Trump routinely says things that aren’t true. Few Americans believe him. UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 1:22 p.m.
• The WaPo fact checker had to come up with a new category "Bottomless Pinnochio" just for him. Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:59 p.m.
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DeVos cancels $150M in student loan debt after losing court battle UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 1:19 p.m.
• Aww, guess those holdings in student loan collection companies aren't going to pay off as Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:34 p.m.
• RE: Aww, guess those holdings in student loan collection companies aren't going to pay off as Top Cat 12/16/2018 - 8:22 a.m.
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CONGRESS 'There's no plan': Congress skips town as shutdown nears UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 1:19 p.m.
• Can't let a minor thing like this interfere with yet another vacation. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:36 p.m.
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Rudy Giuliani Hilariously Walks Back Comments Saying Hush Money Payouts Aren’t a ‘Big Crime’ UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 1:00 p.m.
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NJ Ds are doing something about gerrymandering UFNY 12/14/2018 - 12:42 p.m.
• Politicians wanting to retain/gain more power? Thunder 12/14/2018 - 1:39 p.m.
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Rudy Giuliani Defends Trump’s Hush Money Payments: ‘Not a Big Crime’ Because ‘Nobody Got Killed’ by UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 12:26 p.m.
• Agree. Should be legal. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 12:39 p.m.
• A complete lack of transparency from a candidate for POTUS should be legal?... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 12:46 p.m.
• Mr Trump should be able to spend his money in whatever way he wishes . . . * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 12:56 p.m.
• Yes, but he should not be able to hide it as, or aspiring to be, a public official. * trash 12/14/2018 - 12:58 p.m.
• Why? The media routinely hid such things in the past . . . see JFK . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 12:59 p.m.
• How about if the payoff were to people who knew he was owned hook, line and sinker trash 12/14/2018 - 1:22 p.m.
• RE: How about if the payoff were to people who knew he was owned hook, line and sinker Wayne 12/14/2018 - 1:25 p.m.
• RE: How about if the payoff were to people who knew he was owned hook, line and sinker Liti-Gator 12/14/2018 - 2:37 p.m.
• I'm with Wayne on this one. * UFNY 12/14/2018 - 3:43 p.m.
• Well that settles it for me! :) * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 3:49 p.m.
• I'm sure you didn't need that, tho. UFNY 12/14/2018 - 4:06 p.m.
• We differ. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 3:11 p.m.
• exactly. * trash 12/14/2018 - 2:58 p.m.
• ^This. Exactly this... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 2:43 p.m.
• So not Move On . . . I suspect you'll be lonely in this pronouncement. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 3:21 p.m.
• Again, Move On did not mean "do nothing", it meant censure and "Move On" * Native 12/14/2018 - 4:13 p.m.
• inconsistent with DJ's remarks. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 4:16 p.m.
• How so? DJ was consistent in his opinion, but "Move On" has been repeatedly mischaracterized here Native 12/14/2018 - 4:29 p.m.
• DJ said impeached and removed not censure. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 4:49 p.m.
• Right, and that's his opinion, which he is entitled to. I'm not arguing that Native 12/14/2018 - 4:51 p.m.
• I never said it was . . . you said it. But Move On was far less than what DJ said . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 4:53 p.m.
• I'm not talking about DJ, I'm talking about your insinuation that Move On wanted to do nothing Native 12/14/2018 - 5:13 p.m.
• Nowhere did I insinuate Move On wanted to "do nothing" YOU DID THAT! Wayne 12/14/2018 - 6:49 p.m.
• Okay, but I still don't know what "not so Move On' was supposed to mean Native 12/14/2018 - 6:58 p.m.
• I have made that pronouncement since the moment Clinton perjured himself. It is not new... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 3:34 p.m.
• I didn't question that. But it is noted. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 3:44 p.m.
• It was wrong before...that doesn't make it right now. Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 1:10 p.m.
• Indeed . . . the press hid FDR's inability to walk . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 1:16 p.m.
• I don't accept that it was wrong . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 1:15 p.m.
• It's an interesting discussion actually. Would some be less appalled by who Trump is Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 1:22 p.m.
• Yes, I completely agree that Trump clouds an interesting topic. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 1:22 p.m.
• Hey..lets make working with the Russians to alter an election legal too..no one got killed. * UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 12:54 p.m.
• If by "alter" you mean to sway voters then I agree that should be legal . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 1:35 p.m.
• "It's not like I shot the President or something" * Dawgzilla 12/14/2018 - 12:30 p.m.
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George Conway co-authors an Op-Ed on Trump and campaign finance laws... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 11:53 a.m.
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The Weekly Standard is closing shop...big demo misread. Conservatives like old Hump who humpgator 12/14/2018 - 11:38 a.m.
• That magazine helped cheerlead the nation into a war where more than 4,000 Americans died........... GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 11:46 a.m.
• Randolph Hearst's papers sent us down a path in 1898 that cost us much, much,much more Boggy Creek Gator 12/14/2018 - 2:31 p.m.
• By Jove, there may be hope for you yet. * Beachmaster 12/15/2018 - 11:52 a.m.
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And now the most badass story you'll read today . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 11:17 a.m.
• Kudos! Didn't Ross Perot rescue some of his workers once? * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 11:35 a.m.
• Kudos! Didn't Ross Perot rescue some of his workers once? Wayne 12/14/2018 - 11:45 a.m.
• The Chicago Tribune has a nice writeup on the story Jethro 12/14/2018 - 12:13 p.m.
• What Texan can resist spinning a big windy? * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 11:47 a.m.
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Trump's Ongoing Disinformation Campaign Against Latino Immigrants fm the New Yorker trash 12/14/2018 - 9:36 a.m.
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Obamacare is dying. Worst piece of healthcare legislation in history. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 9:36 a.m.
• There is only one way besides price to get your healthcare . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 12:28 p.m.
• It’s worth the hour: hard to beat the clarity of Friedman. Truly liked example of the blue vs green Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 2:33 p.m.
• Well if you liked that . . . here's how government perverted Hobbes' immigration argument . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 3:57 p.m.
• I did a copy and paste, BUT it’d be swell if you took the “s” out 8^) * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 4:13 p.m.
• Right click and hit OPEN IN NEW WINDOW * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 4:19 p.m.
• Friedman’s final statement: “In a free market both can benefit”. So did u ever have the opportunity Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 4:50 p.m.
• Thanks for the reminder that I need to re-up my enrollment! * Dawgzilla 12/14/2018 - 11:57 a.m.
• Open enrollment ends tomorrow, I believe. Better get it done quickly. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:18 p.m.
• Why do you say it’s dying? My son renewed his individual health insurance and DurangoGator 12/14/2018 - 9:47 a.m.
• No, it's not. Enrollment is down this year because Trump hates people getting health care and Native 12/14/2018 - 9:38 a.m.
• Yes, cutting the TV ads down drastically, and shuttering the website during open enrollment Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:39 a.m.
• House can't do anything without the Senate also and the two are not off to a good start on the... GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 9:41 a.m.
• In case you didn't realize, the new congress hasn't been seated. there is no start yet. * trash 12/14/2018 - 9:57 a.m.
• They are going to start peeling off as more of Trump's crimes are exposed...except, of course for Native 12/14/2018 - 9:52 a.m.
• Look at the costs and deductibles. It is outrageous. It is on it's deathbed. * GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 9:40 a.m.
• But the preexisting conditions clause probably saved your family member from their own deathbed krharris 12/14/2018 - 12:28 p.m.
• Rising premiums and deductibles are deleterious to the health of the unsubsidized. So rather than Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 2:39 p.m.
• Uh, despite the GOP's best efforts, prices have stablized, my premiums actually went down by Native 12/15/2018 - 1:51 p.m.
• Facts instead of dogma-what a concept. * Beachmaster 12/16/2018 - 6:04 p.m.
• I have a very affordable zero deductible silver plan, and Obamacare probably saved my life Native 12/14/2018 - 10:38 a.m.
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Watered down sentencing reform . . . douche does what douches do . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 9:29 a.m.
• Megadouche. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:38 p.m.
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Ron Paul: Maryjane Federalism's time has come . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 9:19 a.m.
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Yet another young man wins in court after title IX debacle expelled him . . . Wayne 12/14/2018 - 9:14 a.m.
• Yep. Which is why what the Dept of Ed is doing re all this is the rightt thing. * UFNY 12/14/2018 - 9:58 a.m.
• I'm sure the ACLU would applaud this decision. * Thunder 12/14/2018 - 9:50 a.m.
• Unfortunately, not of late. * Wayne 12/14/2018 - 9:57 a.m.
• I know. I was being sarcastic. * Thunder 12/14/2018 - 10:04 a.m.
• What about #metoo? * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:54 a.m.
• RE: Yet another young man wins in court after title IX debacle expelled him . . . MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:33 a.m.
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Kimberly Strassel - Checking Robert Mueller (link) GordonDawg 12/14/2018 - 8:32 a.m.
• that link looks like something I see in an email when someone's email address gets hacked. BBG 12/14/2018 - 8:46 a.m.
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Hobbes..... what are the chances that Donnie's written answers to Mueller contain BBG 12/14/2018 - 8:25 a.m.
• More about that meeting... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 9:43 a.m.
• RE: Hobbes..... what are the chances that Donnie's written answers to Mueller contain iPhoneHobbes 12/14/2018 - 9:26 a.m.
• Umm, he was speaking to regular Hobbes. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 9:33 a.m.
• I don't think it's coincidence how much has started to happen since Trump turned in his answers. trash 12/14/2018 - 9:18 a.m.
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Susan Glasser in The New Yorker: Trump and the rapidly expanding witch hunt Native 12/14/2018 - 8:16 a.m.
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A former Celebrity Apprentice staffer who is now a stand-up comedian is dishing some dirt that backs Native 12/14/2018 - 7:52 a.m.
• Was it a big deal when Obama snorted cocaine? Hypocrisy around here is deep. * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 1:00 p.m.
• Please explain your post Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 1:57 p.m.
• RE: Please explain your post BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 3:37 p.m.
• The implication was that he (Trump) is still doing it. Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 3:52 p.m.
• This seems like a great place to drop this - Donald Trump's tabloid reckoning, this paragraph might Native 12/14/2018 - 8:31 a.m.
• So much truth in that, especially the last paragraph. Describes his base to a "T". Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:55 a.m.
• IKR, I thought it was a pretty perceptive and important thing to understand * Native 12/14/2018 - 10:59 a.m.
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SWFMUD's answer to pollution affecting Lake Okeechobee - deep injecting it into our groundwater Native 12/14/2018 - 7:33 a.m.
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This is horrific, but not surprising. Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 6:40 a.m.
• The whole trump criminal enterprise is exactly what trump supporters BBG 12/14/2018 - 7:09 a.m.
• They believed the worst, and most ridiculous, CTs about the Clinton, yet are still skeptical about Native 12/14/2018 - 7:19 a.m.
• They still have their fingers crossed that Benghazi investigation #14 will bear fruit... Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 7:20 a.m.
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Chris Cuomo and Kellyanne Conway Slug it Out For 39 Absolutely Crazy Minutes on CNN UGADawginVA 12/14/2018 - 1:50 a.m.
• And her husband tweeted this just a few minutes later: Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 8:12 a.m.
• ********* eye begins to twitch several times per second* * iPhoneHobbes 12/14/2018 - 9:31 a.m.
• Kellyanne and George.... do they just laugh their asses off when they go home at night? * BBG 12/14/2018 - 8:41 a.m.
• More from Conway... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 11:56 a.m.
• She is so intensely invested in defending Trump, I can't imagine how she could turn it off. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 9:22 a.m.
• Angling to be the next Matalin and Carville * Native 12/14/2018 - 8:41 a.m.
• Yep, seems the most likely explanation. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:56 a.m.
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There is truly a tweet for all circumstances Hobbes 12/14/2018 - 12:24 a.m.
• That karma, she can be a total bitch, and she's coming hard for the trumps * BBG 12/14/2018 - 7:12 a.m.
• Here's a fun read on the AMI deal with prosecuters Native 12/14/2018 - 7:58 a.m.
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Reason # 10,001 not to live in California 10EC 12/13/2018 - 11:42 p.m.
• I’m sure that’s never happened in Tennessee * trash 12/14/2018 - 7:14 a.m.
• It may have, just never heard it.. Do you know of any incident in TN where disciplining a 7-y.o. MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 8:26 a.m.
• Nope, point was that I fail to see how that article condemns CA compared to anywhere else. trash 12/14/2018 - 9:14 a.m.
• They don't call it the Peoples Republic of California for nothing * 10EC 12/14/2018 - 9:30 a.m.
• Have you ever lived there? that is a term used mostly by people who's opinion is more likely trash 12/14/2018 - 9:41 a.m.
• I support payroll systems for CA bottler. Regulation is insane. * 10EC 12/14/2018 - 11:13 a.m.
• I did, and my wife's family has for 40 years. The term jibes with my experience quite well. * UFNY 12/14/2018 - 9:56 a.m.
• I lived there for a year and have visited many times. Also have friends & family living there. * MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 11:14 a.m.
• stunned, am I. * trash 12/14/2018 - 10:16 a.m.
• Shrug. You brought up "have you ever lived there" as a counterpoint. UFNY 12/14/2018 - 10:51 a.m.
• State control in this case is actually about corporations' impacting people's lives and the health trash 12/14/2018 - 3:02 p.m.
• Am I the only one that doesn't think it's a bad thing a child's bruises, caused by a parent, were Native 12/14/2018 - 9:55 a.m.
• I don't think investigating bruises is bad. However, no bruising was mentioned in the article. MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 11:18 a.m.
• The video reporting included at the link says the teacher noticed an injury, which I took to be Native 12/14/2018 - 12:31 p.m.
• Okay. I didn't watch the video, I just read the story in the link. * MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 1:11 p.m.
• if so, you could argue that the opposite happens in several southern states. * BBG 12/14/2018 - 9:16 a.m.
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Daniel Hannan: Intelligence Debate . . . Brexit. Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:14 p.m.
• David Ignatius on Brexit and conservative quick fixes that never work Native 12/13/2018 - 9:20 p.m.
• No. It will continue . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:49 p.m.
• I was referring more to Brexit, but the law will stop Trump here * Native 12/14/2018 - 6:55 a.m.
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Breaking news on the potential North Carolina election fraud... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 8:49 p.m.
• Lock them up . * BBG 12/14/2018 - 7:33 a.m.
• #No seats for cheats. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 10:33 p.m.
• Another politician you can't trust. Sadly it isnt a shock anymore. * Inspector Vol 12/13/2018 - 8:56 p.m.
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Border patrol lets 7-year old refugee die in their custody of dehydration/exhaustion Native 12/13/2018 - 7:53 p.m.
• According to Jacob Soboroff's reporting on MSNBC (Andrea Mitchell at noon), these detainees Native 12/14/2018 - 1:48 p.m.
• But, but, were they "knowingly" placed on the bus ? Defending this conduct defies rationality. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:11 p.m.
• Here's another version...it's not like this is the first child to die in US custody, and they won't Native 12/14/2018 - 2:18 p.m.
• Hmm, DHS officials confirming the OP, too. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:22 p.m.
• There was a first-person source that confirmed it in the story - some folks' bias Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 5:09 p.m.
• Yes, so it's another day ending in "y" here in Das Lounge. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 5:47 p.m.
• 🤷🏻‍♀️ They will just scoff at this like they do everything else, Native 12/14/2018 - 2:26 p.m.
• Yep-not worth the bandwidth to respond. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 3:17 p.m.
• Not to them. I will, however, to continue to post relevant info, for educational purposes of course Native 12/14/2018 - 3:25 p.m.
• Trump's Cruelty Doctrine is just what the GOP base craves - truly sick * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 5:18 p.m.
• Truth bomb from my spiritual advisor Native 12/14/2018 - 7:52 p.m.
• Oh hey, here's a link to the reporting I am talking about Native 12/14/2018 - 2:08 p.m.
• CBP officials confirm your OP. I'm sure there will now be claims that they are lying about it. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 2:19 p.m.
• I won't hold my breath waiting for an apology for all the lies, smears and false accusations Native 12/14/2018 - 2:23 p.m.
• As always, they'll claim it's somehow your fault for causing their nasty, petty, childish attacks. Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 3:30 p.m.
• Amazing what people dig in on. Apparently whether or not it's OK that a 7 YO dies in US custody. trash 12/14/2018 - 9:43 a.m.
• They are just gaslighting me, I'm not fooled and my values aren't in question * Native 12/14/2018 - 9:49 a.m.
• Yep, and now they're trying to claim you and the article said BP "knowingly" let her die. Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 11:20 a.m.
• Nobody posted that it was okay that the child died. Find one post below that states that? * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 9:45 a.m.
• ~100 posts arguing with and attacking her characterization says pretty clearly where their concern trash 12/14/2018 - 10:21 a.m.
• So no then. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:28 a.m.
• you have your criteria, others differ. there's a lot of defending what happened to not be OK " with trash 12/14/2018 - 1:28 p.m.
• Yep. * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 10:47 a.m.
• I think that is called a straw man argument. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 9:52 a.m.
• Your post is reminiscent of the picture you posted of a young boy being handcuffed shortly... BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 9:24 a.m.
• That's your characterization, but the facts in the linked article do NOT suggest it ... in fact, MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 8:11 a.m.
• Well, it is a national disgrace: for Guatemala. The child did not perish at the hand Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 9:36 a.m.
• Agreed. We can always strive to do better, but in the real world we are often faced with MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:45 a.m.
• Quite the opposite, actually - these are the facts covered by the article: Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:16 a.m.
• No, not at all. Nowhere in the article does it indicate that the authorities denied food or water MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:22 a.m.
• Emergency responders concluded she’d not had water or food for several days - which included Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:25 a.m.
• Did you not read it was only 8 hrs after being detained? You do realize they weren't the only VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:30 a.m.
• The story stated she’s not had food or water in several days according to the responders Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:36 a.m.
• There are 24 hrs in 1 day, if she was deprived of food and water for several days AND she VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:51 a.m.
• Trump, and here's why...again, Jacob Soboroff's reporting has been stellar on this (maybe because Native 12/14/2018 - 2:06 p.m.
• Denied food and water for several days by whom? * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 9:43 a.m.
• For the last 8+ hours of her life, apparently by the detainment facility * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:50 a.m.
• The days without prior to is what killed the child. That is not the BP fault. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 9:55 a.m.
• Now look at who is actually stating facts not supported by the story, par for the course :) * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 12:47 p.m.
• Yes that is my opinion of what happened, politics be damned. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 1:05 p.m.
• And your admonishment of Native for what you considered her opinion of what happened started this * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 1:17 p.m.
• And what does that change about the OP? * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 1:59 p.m.
• Nothing, just the one who admonished her for what he perceived was the same thing * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 4:57 p.m.
• Are you a physician? Simply put, that is a conclusion that can't be readily drawn. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 9:56 a.m.
• Who here is? I’ve had experience with severe dehydration hospitalization. You? * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:12 a.m.
• I've had experience with a lot of medical conditions... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:15 a.m.
• Correct, yet experience beats reading an internet article and immediately condemning the BP. * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:22 a.m.
• You do know how long a body can go without food or water before death is imminent right? Here VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:20 a.m.
• You're missing the point... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:25 a.m.
• Never said it shouldn't be investigated. All of my posts were in response to Native stating VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:31 a.m.
• I can state with certainty that if the child had not been taken out of Guatemala on a dangerous Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:30 a.m.
• Can you state with certainty they wouldn't have died in Guatemala instead? * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:31 a.m.
• I can state with 100% certainty that they were going to die somewhere! * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:33 a.m.
• Fair point. And, this is why attempts to blame agents for the child's death are misguided. MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:11 a.m.
• wow. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:06 a.m.
• Likewise. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:07 a.m.
• Common sense dude common sense. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:08 a.m.
• Assumptions without all facts being known has nothing to do with common sense... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:11 a.m.
• You seriously gonna say that days without food and water are less of an effect than 8hrs? Dude. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:14 a.m.
• Where did you manufacture THAT statement from?... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:17 a.m.
• Exactly. Common sense would lead any reasonable person to the idea that the Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:24 a.m.
• That is NOT "common sense". That's jumping to a conclusion before all the facts are known. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:27 a.m.
• So you’re saying the Border Patrol is innocent till proven otherwise. * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:37 a.m.
• I am not drawing any final conclusions either way... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:42 a.m.
• If we are going assign blame then yes it's reasonable (common sense) to think that. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:31 a.m.
• I know how long a body can go without food and water before death is a real VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:59 a.m.
• If a person dies from loss of blood following a gunshot wound, the shooter is the killer Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 10:41 a.m.
• Even if the victim had lost enough blood before entering the waiting room to be beyond saving? * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:46 a.m.
• I think that was DJ's point exactly....would necessitate an investigation. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 10:49 a.m.
• Agreed and I didn't see anyone otherwise. The argument was refuting Native's characterization VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:56 a.m.
• You might want to read the reporting I posted above...ICE continues to neglect the children in their Native 12/14/2018 - 2:27 p.m.
• I would be much more comfortable if Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 11:05 a.m.
• You might want to read the reporting as well, there was nothing wrong with my characterization here * Native 12/14/2018 - 2:28 p.m.
• Like the greatness of Vol football? ;-) * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 11:38 a.m.
• Difference between controversial topic and myths/legends. :-) * Thunder 12/14/2018 - 1:46 p.m.
• I know only one thing....I'm tired of waiting to return to the days of respect. * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 1:54 p.m.
• The BP is not a hospital is it? * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:43 a.m.
• My point remains, and that wasn't it. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 10:43 a.m.
• Yet a bleeding patient might have more readily visible signs of distress than a 7-yo girl MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:50 a.m.
• Fair enough. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 11:04 a.m.
• Your point fails; my supersedes. ;^~ * Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:46 a.m.
• Damn, I hate it when that happens. I shall return. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 10:47 a.m.
• Exactly. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:09 a.m.
• This father and child were not the only illegals being processed. I'm sure it took hours to VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:53 a.m.
• There were ~120,000 border apprehensions in Oct-Nov. Let that sink in. The migrants come in BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 10:00 a.m.
• Exactly my point in other posts. The lib's act as though these two individuals were VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:06 a.m.
• Exactly. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 9:50 a.m.
• First, given the relatively short time she was in the detention facility, any lack of food or water MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:28 a.m.
• So either it was denied or never offered, but now we’re just into semantics * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:31 a.m.
• "Let" them die implies knowledge of condition or intentional deprivation. Neither was indicated. MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:40 a.m.
• When you take a child in custody, the first thing you do is access their condition and provide Native 12/14/2018 - 9:51 a.m.
• "IF INDICATED" ... nowhere is it stated that such was indicated at the time of arrival. * MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:03 a.m.
• Uh, the fact that she ended up dead is all the indication I need that nothing was done because Native 12/14/2018 - 10:04 a.m.
• Logic says otherwise. If A then B doesn't necessarily apply, including here. ..... MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:42 a.m.
• Which brings us back to where we started. The OP wasn't exactly true. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:47 a.m.
• It would seem to me taking a child's temperature should be one of the first things done. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 9:57 a.m.
• In a perfect environment, perhaps. We don't know whether a temperature was taken, or MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:02 a.m.
• The point is, it can't be so readily concluded that they didn't either... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:06 a.m.
• I've never suggested that they did. The OP stated that ICE "let" the child die and others MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:18 a.m.
• There has been a rush here to assume zero culpability for the Border Patrol... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:22 a.m.
• Yes, presumption of innocence. Do you agree the adults on the trip should be investigated for child Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:40 a.m.
• Yes, go ahead and prosecute the refugees for the difficulty of the journey Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 5:16 p.m.
• I will give you the benefit of the doubt that you haven't read all my posts in this thread. If you MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:32 a.m.
• And I wouldn't go so far as to conclude there is "nothing"... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:44 a.m.
• Yes, 8 hours can be a long time. Of course, time is relative. It might not be all that long MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 11:03 a.m.
• I'm going to be blunt... GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 11:06 a.m.
• RE: I'm going to be blunt... Thunder 12/14/2018 - 1:59 p.m.
• My "history" as you refer to it is pretty much a reflection of this thread...accused of Native 12/14/2018 - 2:12 p.m.
• When you basically accuse third party voters of allowing Trump to win... Thunder 12/14/2018 - 2:16 p.m.
• WADR, I don't want or need your benefit of the doubt Native 12/14/2018 - 2:19 p.m.
• The reality is that my vote had nothing to do with Trump being elected. Thunder 12/14/2018 - 2:29 p.m.
• But, speaking of dead horses! * Native 12/14/2018 - 2:31 p.m.
• If only because this post continued a trend for the OP, which is taking every opportunity MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 11:52 a.m.
• ^^^There you have it folks! Good job by Deej to get at the truth * Native 12/14/2018 - 12:40 p.m.
• Chill was right, and he's being proven so every day in here. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 1:21 p.m.
• Well, yes ... the truth that some posters play fast & loose with it for their own purposes, and MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 1:15 p.m.
• Well, yes, some do...but as usual, you have accused me of something that isn't true, and as more Native 12/14/2018 - 1:52 p.m.
• I think we all knew why you were here. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 11:33 a.m.
• Oh really? By all means please share. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 11:35 a.m.
• You just told us. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 12:23 p.m.
• I'm not good at mind-reading. Spell it out. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 12:37 p.m.
• That's odd, you were just doing exactly that above. Hmmm * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 12:59 p.m.
• And Michi admitted it, to his credit. GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 1:38 p.m.
• You think I was mistreating native for pointing it out. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 2:09 p.m.
• You're not the only one who viscerally reacted to the poster, not so much the post. GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 2:49 p.m.
• Despite all the "Pearl-Clutching" which is occurring in this thread, I have not attacked anyone MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 5:07 p.m.
• Then maybe she should be encouraged to stop? Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 3:00 p.m.
• RE: Then maybe she should be encouraged to stop? GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 3:47 p.m.
• You did good too. Made it about everything but the O post. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 7:25 p.m.
• I didn't say that. She doesn't have to ask. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 7:23 p.m.
• STOP CRITICIZING IV! NOW! Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 4:16 p.m.
• Congrats on finding your special purpose. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 7:28 p.m.
• HELP, HELP, MY REPRESSION IS BEING REPRESSED!!! * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 4:38 p.m.
• Where is that Rush at? * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:26 a.m.
• RE: Where is that Rush at? GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:29 a.m.
• Went to no specific post. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:33 a.m.
• That was the point. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:42 a.m.
• What I figured. You can't. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:45 a.m.
• Do you want me to link to your own posts? You're jumping to all kinds of conclusions. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:45 a.m.
• Curious you are only worried about any conclusions I may have stated. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:49 a.m.
• It's not just you. Far from it. * GatorDJ 12/14/2018 - 10:55 a.m.
• See your post further up. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 11:35 a.m.
• That issue has hardly been addressed so that isnt exactly true either. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 10:11 a.m.
• Indeed, and hence my point about how DJ Durkin lost his job * Native 12/14/2018 - 10:01 a.m.
• Are you really trying to equate football practices at a major university with this situation? * MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:05 a.m.
• I'm saying that there is an acceptable and humane standard of treatment and she did not receive it Native 12/14/2018 - 10:07 a.m.
• She's also compared the immigrants to Jesus and his family fleeing death at Herod's hand. * Thunder 12/14/2018 - 10:06 a.m.
• I sure did, and I'm not the only one doing that either Native 12/14/2018 - 10:12 a.m.
• Speaking of selective outrage...nah, that would be beating a dead horse. * Thunder 12/14/2018 - 10:13 a.m.
• Really? That's an interesting interpretation, which doesn't seem to be shared with the rest of Native 12/14/2018 - 8:58 a.m.
• No, the rest of the "THINKING WORLD" doesn't include those you;re citing. MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:18 a.m.
• Again, you are just digging yourself a hole. Dawgspeare laid out the facts above Native 12/14/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• Correct, but it will not penetrate the bubble. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 11:10 a.m.
• No, you are refusing to admit the obvious. Nowhere in the article does it state that MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:25 a.m.
• No, we expect detainees to be treated humanely, clearly that is not a priorty for these border agent Native 12/14/2018 - 9:41 a.m.
• If you don't wish to discuss the situation, that is fine. If you wish to spin things for political MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:58 a.m.
• I discussed it, but I'm not going to waste time when you can't even acknowledge basic facts * Native 12/14/2018 - 10:13 a.m.
• Got it. If I won't ignore facts and accept propaganda, somebody won't waste their time. MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 10:25 a.m.
• No you don't, or don't want to...so I'm reclaiming my time! * Native 12/14/2018 - 10:39 a.m.
• Gee, and I thought you said you were done wasting your time! :) * MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 11:05 a.m.
• What responsibility does the father bear for dragging a 7yr old a thousand miles VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:58 a.m.
• It tells me that what they were running from must have been pretty effen awful...kind of like Native 12/14/2018 - 9:59 a.m.
• Defect much? Are you omniscient? How do you know they were running from anything? Perhaps VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:04 a.m.
• They were in a large group that turned themselves into border patrol. Desperate people Native 12/14/2018 - 10:05 a.m.
• You have absolutely no clue what is going on at the border with that statement. * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 1:08 p.m.
• I think you should head there immediately and remedy the situation. You obviously are VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:08 a.m.
• Ah, yes...when you lose the argument, attack me personally. I love how the only thing you can focus Native 12/14/2018 - 10:20 a.m.
• That's an impressive rabbit trail there....has nothing to do with your assertion in the OP but VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:38 a.m.
• Same as it ever was. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:36 a.m.
• It was only 8 hrs after they surrendered and she had been without food and water for days prior to. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 9:13 a.m.
• BTW, BP agents routinely pour out water left for the survival of these refugees, mostly women and Native 12/14/2018 - 7:54 a.m.
• Another grossly misleading post from you. You posted a tweet showing a 2013 video that... BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 9:41 a.m.
• More BS from you. That video was from 2013. You have NO CLUE what goes on at the border here.... BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 8:58 a.m.
• Per usual, that isn't exactly a complete picture of what happened. * Inspector Vol 12/13/2018 - 8:37 p.m.
• So fill us in. What was left out? Give us the complete picture. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 10:34 p.m.
• All you gotta do is read the article. * Inspector Vol 12/14/2018 - 4:25 a.m.
• In other words, you're just hoping. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 6:13 a.m.
• In other words you don't want to know the facts, you prefer your TDS. * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 7:55 a.m.
• In other words, you continue to "misrepresent" everything said by anyone you don't agree with, Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 9:52 a.m.
• Show me exactly what I misrepresented. * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 10:18 a.m.
• "you don't want to know the facts" Yet another of your lies. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:30 a.m.
• Ok, you want to select which facts to keep and which to jettison. * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 12:54 p.m.
• Excuse me? I get wrongly accused of dishonesty, and that didn't stop you from saying Beach Native 12/14/2018 - 8:13 a.m.
• What he seems to be saying, correctly, is that the article doesn't say what you suggest MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 8:16 a.m.
• Bull#badword#. I read the article. The header does not misrepresent the contents, unlike a certain Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 9:58 a.m.
• That's nice. So, where in the article did it state that ICE knowingly "let" her die? MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 11:12 a.m.
• It doesn't. * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 1:12 p.m.
• You got it. * VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:03 a.m.
• Hmm, a child in ICE custody died, of dehydration, and calling it a disagrace is misleading? Clearly Native 12/14/2018 - 8:23 a.m.
• In the article it said it was 8 hrs after being detained. Now think beyond "Trump is the devil" for VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 9:09 a.m.
• What I know is that it appears some are hell-bent on characterizing some things in MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 8:36 a.m.
• Nope, I'm good with disgrace. Treating children fleeing violence as criminals is never going to be Native 12/14/2018 - 8:43 a.m.
• Now you're expanding and adding on. Still, they actually ARE criminals, if only in the sense that MichiGator 12/14/2018 - 9:07 a.m.
• Again, fleeing for your life and asking for asylum is not a crime, no matter how much Trump wants Native 12/14/2018 - 10:02 a.m.
• If you come to a border crossing to ask for asylum it isn't a crime. If you cross the border.... BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 3:45 p.m.
• Yep. Haven't seen anyone against legal immigration. * Inspector Vol 12/15/2018 - 6:16 a.m.
• A variant of "I can't prove my point on my own, could you please help me?" * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 7:16 a.m.
• Same as it ever was. Not worth the time. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:34 a.m.
• Please cite the passage that somehow shows Native misrepresented its content * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 6:01 a.m.
• There's a reason most of the responses are ignored, as they should be Native 12/14/2018 - 6:56 a.m.
• Yep. Par for the course here. Probably didn't even read what she posted. * BelmontGator 12/13/2018 - 9:01 p.m.
• I suspect you didn't even open the link - she paraphrased the title and said it was a disgrace Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 6:32 a.m.
• Is it really that hard to understand? BP LET the child die? Really? Complete and utter BS. BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 9:10 a.m.
• But we do know the condition the emergency responders found her in Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:30 a.m.
• She was only in custody 8 hrs, and that includes time spent processing her and her father, time VOLMAN 12/14/2018 - 1:30 p.m.
• The treatment for a severely dehydrated child is IV fluids, not being stashed on a bus with no water Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 5:25 p.m.
• Sounds like Trump should have been sending medical support to the border instead of soldiers * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 9:23 a.m.
• There is plenty of medical support at the border. Please understand what is going on before posting. * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 9:26 a.m.
• Apparently not since it sounds like the first doc the kid saw was when she was dying 8+ hours Dawgspeare 12/15/2018 - 11:00 a.m.
• It's the Lounge, it's how I'm treated here, pretty much routinely and have been for years Native 12/14/2018 - 7:02 a.m.
• You are definitely the Hillary of the Lounge * Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 7:02 a.m.
• Bwahahahahahahahahhahahahahahahahahahahahaha!!! Comedy gold!!!!!! * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 9:11 a.m.
• HA! Considering how accomplished she is, I am not worthy but will still accept the honor of being Native 12/14/2018 - 7:20 a.m.
• Your commitment to the use of legitimate citations makes you one of the most qualified posters here Dawgspeare 12/14/2018 - 7:22 a.m.
• Lol!!!!!! * BelmontGator 12/14/2018 - 8:53 a.m.
• ^^^True story...nevertheless, I persist! * Native 12/14/2018 - 7:59 a.m.
• MAGA! * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 8:32 p.m.
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NBC Legal Analyst Says New Report Makes It Clearer Trump Committed a Felony: ‘It’s a Full On Conspir UGADawginVA 12/13/2018 - 6:58 p.m.
• David Jolly just said it's hard to see how Trump avoids impeachment in 2019 Native 12/13/2018 - 7:10 p.m.
• There would be 53 to 55 votes in the senate not to convict and a majority of Americans GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 7:29 p.m.
• Today, that is probably correct, but Cassidy and Rubio are already eyeing an exit ramp Native 12/13/2018 - 7:36 p.m.
• He could be impeached but he will not, however, there is zero chance of removal. Zero point zero.... GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 7:40 p.m.
• LOL, they can view it however they want but eventually reality will catch up with all of you * Native 12/13/2018 - 7:42 p.m.
• Some of them will continue their denial for the rest of their lives. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 8:33 p.m.
• I swear to God, my Republican in-laws still think all Nixon did wrong was get caught lying and Native 12/14/2018 - 7:09 a.m.
• I'm sure there are some here who feel that constant lying is acceptable. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:42 a.m.
• Uh no they are not. * GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 7:37 p.m.
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Partial shutdown likely. House R "leaders" still have no plan for passing a bill. But they will not Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 5:53 p.m.
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The robot uprising has begun (link).... GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 2:42 p.m.
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Trump isn't getting re-elected even if he survives the next two years of Mueller Native 12/13/2018 - 2:10 p.m.
• orange man bad! * NC Enginerd 12/13/2018 - 4:44 p.m.
• Very! In fact, pretty much one of the worst, and probably the worst to ever be President Native 12/13/2018 - 5:16 p.m.
• The Democrats can always nominate a lackluster candidate again. * Phred 12/13/2018 - 4:06 p.m.
• Indict and remove Ayatollah Pence first. President Pelosi won't pardon Individual 1. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 3:48 p.m.
• What offense is going to get Pence impeached? Flea 12/13/2018 - 4:34 p.m.
• Uh, I dunno, maybe this? Trump's inauguration spending now under investigation. Did you forget Pence Native 12/13/2018 - 5:14 p.m.
• Thanks, you provided actual, relevant info, in only one reply. * Flea 12/13/2018 - 5:19 p.m.
• BTW, Rachel Maddow has been reporting on this for at least a year...Melania's friend got $26m in Native 12/13/2018 - 7:06 p.m.
• Yep. It's been there for a while, for those who care to look. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 10:38 p.m.
• I readily admit I don't follow this as closely as most of you, thus why I asked for more info. Flea 12/14/2018 - 7:00 a.m.
• Well, since you mentioned my bringing receipts, here's more on the $26 million to Melanie's friend Native 12/14/2018 - 7:28 a.m.
• Paying For the Photo-Shop Bill Showing Billions in Attendance for His Inauguration....?? DaZeD 12/14/2018 - 1:57 p.m.
• Shhh. Let them have their little "do-over" fantasy. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 5:17 p.m.
• Ours? Come on. Y’all are the ones that want 2 for the removal of 1. UFNY 12/13/2018 - 8:38 p.m.
• I'll take POTUS Ronald McDonald 3rdWardGator 12/14/2018 - 4:54 a.m.
• I know you got nothing.... UFNY 12/14/2018 - 7:14 a.m.
• Go personal? 3rdWardGator 12/14/2018 - 9:16 a.m.
• Yes, personal. UFNY 12/14/2018 - 9:48 a.m.
• I want all who broke the law removed. Period. Full stop. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 10:37 p.m.
• SAME! Every. Single. One. * Native 12/14/2018 - 6:57 a.m.
• Did you just use boner and Pelosi in the same poast? * DurangoGator 12/13/2018 - 9:28 p.m.
• The wettest of D dreams. Putting her in office the only way she could get in * UFNY 12/13/2018 - 9:35 p.m.
• It’s part of the Do Over Dream. * UFNY 12/13/2018 - 4:53 p.m.
• Your illogical BID dream has been an American nightmare 3rdWardGator 12/14/2018 - 4:56 a.m.
• Come on. UFNY 12/14/2018 - 7:11 a.m.
• Like every American 3rdWardGator 12/14/2018 - 9:21 a.m.
• Oh good lord. UFNY 12/14/2018 - 9:46 a.m.
• RE: Your illogical BID dream has been an American nightmare Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 6:24 a.m.
• Yep. * Flea 12/13/2018 - 5:03 p.m.
• Yep, or not really now that you know there's there there? * Native 12/14/2018 - 6:58 a.m.
• There's some there there, but there needs to be more there there Flea 12/14/2018 - 7:02 a.m.
• You really need to learn more about how and why Pence was added to the ticket, by Manafort, Native 12/14/2018 - 7:17 a.m.
• There will never be enough there there. * Beachmaster 12/14/2018 - 10:51 a.m.
• Wait for Mueller to unveil it. He was in charge of the transition. Manafort and Flynn communicated Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 4:36 p.m.
• In other words, you're just hoping. * Flea 12/13/2018 - 4:37 p.m.
• LOL. I'm sure he just hired a top DC lawyer based on my hopes. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 4:40 p.m.
• Ok, so what do we know right now, other than he has a lawyer? * Flea 12/13/2018 - 4:41 p.m.
• As much as Mueller wants to tell us, and much less than Ayatollah Pence himself knows. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 4:46 p.m.
• In other words, nothing yet. * Flea 12/13/2018 - 4:53 p.m.
• Same as with Manafort, Cohen, Papadopolos, Flynn and Butina. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 4:59 p.m.
• How is that the same? We know exactly what those have been charged with and/or pleaded to. Flea 12/13/2018 - 5:03 p.m.
• We "know" as much now re pence as we did before Mueller released the indictments for those Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 5:07 p.m.
• RE: We "know" as much now re pence as we did before Mueller released the indictments for those Flea 12/13/2018 - 5:17 p.m.
• RE: We "know" as much now re pence as we did before Mueller released the indictments for those Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 5:19 p.m.
• If that happens, bullets will fly and the 2nd civil war will begin * FLVOL 12/13/2018 - 4:19 p.m.
• Seems that was the goal all along. * Inspector Vol 12/13/2018 - 2:56 p.m.
• He will be primaried * 10EC 12/13/2018 - 2:23 p.m.
• What's left of the R Party is almost fully Trump... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 3:15 p.m.
• Exactly. Someone could run as an independent, but all that would do is make it easier on the Dems. Flea 12/13/2018 - 4:28 p.m.
• I think if someone runs as an Independent, Trump gets re-elected . * GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 5:43 p.m.
• I agree. * UFNY 12/13/2018 - 3:05 p.m.
• By who?? He has almost 90% approval in pubs last time I checked. * GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 2:28 p.m.
• RE: By who?? He has almost 90% approval in pubs last time I checked. Top Cat 12/13/2018 - 4:18 p.m.
• And we don't use the shortcut pubs here. Mudlizard 12/13/2018 - 4:25 p.m.
• By someone fit for the office perhaps. * Mudlizard 12/13/2018 - 2:39 p.m.
• lol * FLVOL 12/13/2018 - 3:26 p.m.
• Don't hold your breath! * Studegator 12/13/2018 - 2:45 p.m.
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I wonder just how many crooks are about to be sworn into office? Native 12/13/2018 - 1:59 p.m.
• Hawley has done nothing wrong. He will have the highest IQ of any senator is a former clerk for..... GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 2:07 p.m.
• The FBI will be the ones determining that, but #NoSeatsForCheats! * Native 12/13/2018 - 2:12 p.m.
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Gawd, Trump really is a mental midget. . . . Top Cat 12/13/2018 - 1:17 p.m.
• Standard MO, can't get your way, lie and claim you did. Meanwhile making diametrically opposing trash 12/13/2018 - 1:37 p.m.
• Drumpf truly is an idiot, but he is smarter than his cultists. Frightening. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 4:01 p.m.
• RE: Gawd, Trump really is a mental midget. . . . * BBG 12/13/2018 - 1:40 p.m.
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The Daily 202... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 11:55 a.m.
• RE: The Daily 202... Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 12:19 p.m.
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Keep an eye on the judge in the Flynn case. He is the same judge who observed DOJ corruption in the GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 11:49 a.m.
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And now an indictment from Uncle Milty . . . the names have been changed to protect the guilty . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 11:37 a.m.
• Here’s a YouTube regarding steel subsidies: Mississippi Vol 12/14/2018 - 7:21 a.m.
• Remember when Japan was going to conquer the world in the late 70’s 80’s and early 90’s? * iPhoneHobbes 12/13/2018 - 3:40 p.m.
• This is well above my pay-grade. I will defer to KGA for analysis. * Top Cat 12/13/2018 - 12:55 p.m.
• Just to have it deleted by the Admin a few minutes later? Why bother? No thanks, LOL * KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/13/2018 - 5:42 p.m.
• Cop out. You have never had a post deleted that doesn't contain name calling. Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 9:40 a.m.
• no, you are the one copping out. The deletion of my last reply to TC.... KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/14/2018 - 3:00 p.m.
• How many posts by liberal posters have been deleted here? * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 3:24 p.m.
• RE: no, you are the one copping out. The deletion of my last reply to TC.... Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 3:24 p.m.
• So you are defending the deletion, and denying it was because of opposition by admin, correct? * KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/14/2018 - 4:26 p.m.
• Personal attacks are deleted. Stop making them and you won’t have posts deleted. * Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 5:52 p.m.
• If my post had been against a Trump supporter ... KILLER GATOR ATTACK 12/14/2018 - 6:07 p.m.
• You have no #badword#ing clue as to what is deleted here. NONE. Mudlizard 12/14/2018 - 6:23 p.m.
• Thanks for the link and for taking the time....to write a header with a beat and cutesy rhyme * Dawgzilla 12/13/2018 - 12:50 p.m.
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Samantha Bee on the new Fox Streaming channel UGADawginVA 12/13/2018 - 11:31 a.m.
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Preach, sista, preach: Nancy Pelosi is the heroine the resistance to Trump needs Native 12/13/2018 - 9:45 a.m.
• The butthurt over a Speaker far more effective than Ryan is a source of continual amusement to me. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:14 a.m.
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Concerning the near future of ICE vehicle sells studegator 12/13/2018 - 9:43 a.m.
• Maybe this is what people mean when they say “abolish ICE”? * iPhoneHobbes 12/13/2018 - 11:55 a.m.
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"The art or the plea deal" by former Bush ethics lawyer..... BBG 12/13/2018 - 9:09 a.m.
• Individual 1's galactic ego won't allow him to listen to, or take, sound advice. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:16 a.m.
• LOL, you are quoting the dumpster fire lawyer??? * GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 9:23 a.m.
• The one that didn't make the payment that Drumpf knew nothing about Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 10:46 a.m.
• No, Richard Painter is actually the dumpster fire lawyer. Dude had some amazing ads. * GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 10:48 a.m.
• I had to google that Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 10:53 a.m.
• Good to see Al Franken is still able to get work. * Wayne 12/13/2018 - 1:14 p.m.
• RE: Good to see Al Franken is still able to get work. iPhoneHobbes 12/13/2018 - 3:43 p.m.
• That is a world-class hairpiece. * UFNY 12/13/2018 - 11:51 a.m.
• Yikes. * GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 11:28 a.m.
• It reminded me of the movie "The Campaign" * GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 11:15 a.m.
• Bad candidate who had no business running as a Dem, but that doesn't mean he isn't absolutely Native 12/13/2018 - 11:38 a.m.
• Trump's Personal Lawyer and "Fixer" for years * atlgator85 12/13/2018 - 9:55 a.m.
• Lol is Mexico paying for the wall? * BBG 12/13/2018 - 9:29 a.m.
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National Inquirer's cover for November 2016 Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 9:07 a.m.
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Hugh Hewitt is right. Trump will win the border budget fight because Democrats are siding with the GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 8:51 a.m.
• Here's a wall that will keep America safe, and is worth every penny Native 12/13/2018 - 11:17 a.m.
• A story of drug war stupidity and futility . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:31 a.m.
• LOL . . . because yeah the war on drugs has produced such grand results previously that . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:24 a.m.
• Fentanyl is a different animal. It is so dangerous that interdiction applies. * GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 9:32 a.m.
• It is a direct result of previous misguided attempts to control heroin(e). Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:37 a.m.
• You can't control heroine, baby. J.M. 12/13/2018 - 11:24 a.m.
• Spelling smack . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 11:27 a.m.
• BOOM! J.M. 12/13/2018 - 11:33 a.m.
• and previous misguided attempts to curtail prescription drugs * aubie in bham 12/13/2018 - 9:51 a.m.
• Excellent point . . . thanks for that. * Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:55 a.m.
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He turned Kelly into a Newt. Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 8:12 a.m.
• Popehat went strong there. * Mudlizard 12/13/2018 - 8:59 a.m.
• Why not, the GOP continues to recycle the worst people, like Bolton * Native 12/13/2018 - 8:15 a.m.
• Those are the only people left who are willing to go work for Trump. GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 8:20 a.m.
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Phase II of Mueller's investigation will include a look at the Saudis and other ME influencers Native 12/13/2018 - 8:10 a.m.
• Good. Jared's chumminess with the blood-soaked House of Saud definitely needs investigating. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:10 a.m.
• RE: Phase II of Mueller's investigation will include a look at the Saudis and other ME influencers GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 8:46 a.m.
• Just for Trump? The House of Saud has been an influencer for every admin. * Wayne 12/13/2018 - 8:30 a.m.
• RE: Just for Trump? The House of Saud has been an influencer for every admin. * trash 12/13/2018 - 3:39 p.m.
• Sure, but this is likely the first admin willing to accept bribes or commit crimes with them * Native 12/13/2018 - 8:35 a.m.
• The Yemen war started under Obama. We provided support, we increased weapon sales . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 8:39 a.m.
• Fair enough point on Yemen, five Ds voted to continue. Useful idiots, but hopefully the new House Native 12/13/2018 - 9:04 a.m.
• I hope so . . . That journalist was just the last . . . war crimes have been committed in Yemen . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 9:05 a.m.
• Yep, and it's not like we weren't aware of their tendencies. This is one of Obama's big FP fails. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:12 a.m.
• Most of his FP failures can be tied to what Congress allowed him to do...here's some context Native 12/13/2018 - 1:16 p.m.
• Burr and Crapo, I see. No surprise there. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 3:53 p.m.
• How is that context for Obama? The Obama administration backed the war Wayne 12/13/2018 - 1:22 p.m.
• Yep, and one of his biggest FP fails. Too much kowtowing to the military industrial complex, too. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 3:54 p.m.
• Maybe it will draw the needed attention, but for how long? Thunder 12/13/2018 - 9:31 a.m.
• If it's properly exposed now, maybe there would be no going back Native 12/13/2018 - 12:36 p.m.
• RE: If it's properly exposed now, maybe there would be no going back Thunder 12/13/2018 - 12:39 p.m.
• Yes. * Inspector Vol 12/13/2018 - 9:56 a.m.
• Completely agree. * GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 9:12 a.m.
• I hope so, and agree with you completely on how it must be stopped Native 12/13/2018 - 9:09 a.m.
• That's a good argument for why a complete enema is called for. * GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 8:45 a.m.
• The Joker agrees Thunder 12/13/2018 - 8:50 a.m.
• I'm willing. Do you think Wolf would phrase it this way now that Trump is king? Wayne 12/13/2018 - 8:47 a.m.
• That's not so much what I was getting at... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 9:00 a.m.
• And the connection to Russia is?? * 10EC 12/13/2018 - 8:12 a.m.
• Monica Lewinsky, of course * BBG 12/13/2018 - 8:33 a.m.
• No. Reference Clinton- Chinese campaign shenanigans: Mississippi Vol 12/13/2018 - 9:29 a.m.
• RE: And the connection to Russia is?? Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 8:16 a.m.
• And ps . . . this Black water guy has been involved since day one . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 8:56 a.m.
• There's no excuse for how we treat with the House of Saud. Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 9:02 a.m.
• Except the House of Saud never held any of our embassy personnel hostage. * Thunder 12/13/2018 - 9:39 a.m.
• Do you really want to go there considering Reagan's complicity in delaying the hostages release Native 12/13/2018 - 11:39 a.m.
• Reagan's actions have nothing to do with the difference in treatment by Iran and Saudi Arabia. * Thunder 12/13/2018 - 11:44 a.m.
• Really? I would remind you that 15 of the 19 hijackers on 9/11 were Saudi nationals * Native 12/13/2018 - 11:51 a.m.
• Yes, really. Thunder 12/13/2018 - 11:58 a.m.
• Interesting logic...do you really think the House of Saud had nothing to do with 9/11? If so, Bob Native 12/13/2018 - 12:39 p.m.
• It's possible they did, but as of yet, no evidence. Thunder 12/13/2018 - 12:41 p.m.
• Your skepticism is duly noted, wonder where it was when HRC and Gillum were being Native 12/13/2018 - 12:44 p.m.
• Neither did the Pahlavis who we did treat with. Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 10:40 a.m.
• I don't get it now, we aren't even dependent on them for oil, which is a good thing Native 12/13/2018 - 9:07 a.m.
• So it is an open-ended prosecutor attached to an administration . . . * Wayne 12/13/2018 - 8:30 a.m.
• You want Mueller to ignore additional crimes uncovered by the investigation? * Native 12/13/2018 - 8:38 a.m.
• There are 50000 or more Federal regulations and laws . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 8:42 a.m.
• Um, we're not talking about a violation of Federal regulations or bureaucracy here Native 12/13/2018 - 9:47 a.m.
• 33 individuals have been charged to date. Plenty more crimes out there, I'd wager. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:50 a.m.
• Facts, they are stubborn things. * trash 12/13/2018 - 8:28 a.m.
• A complete listing of all the people charged to date by the Mueller investigation. Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:48 a.m.
• So many witches...and Maria Butina (who just plead guilty) isn't even on the list. * GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 11:51 a.m.
• So just the number matters? Wayne 12/13/2018 - 12:12 p.m.
• Say what?... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 12:21 p.m.
• RE: Say what?... Wayne 12/13/2018 - 12:30 p.m.
• RE: Say what?... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 12:39 p.m.
• Where it's going to get really interesting is when people start asking why McConnell looked Native 12/13/2018 - 12:41 p.m.
• nevermind. . . the circle continues. * Wayne 12/13/2018 - 12:40 p.m.
• I'm not assuming anything... GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 12:44 p.m.
• I am saying that . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 12:48 p.m.
• RE: I am saying that . . . GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 12:52 p.m.
• RE: I am saying that . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 1:01 p.m.
• RE: I am saying that . . . GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 1:06 p.m.
• The most lawless campaign and administration in our history. The full extent is still unknown. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 12:06 p.m.
• If they keep going Hobbes they are going to unearth that speeding ticket you got buried.... 10EC 12/13/2018 - 8:21 a.m.
• Are you okay with crimes, as long as they were committed to help Donald J. Trump and his judges? Native 12/13/2018 - 8:29 a.m.
• No. But I am not ok with open ended investigations. Hence my joke to Hobbes * 10EC 12/13/2018 - 9:19 a.m.
• How long did Ken Starr investigate Clinton? What about Republicans and Benghazi? Native 12/13/2018 - 9:49 a.m.
• Well a few things about that . . . Wayne 12/13/2018 - 10:00 a.m.
• Sure to all of that, but complaining about it now sounds more than a little clueless Native 12/13/2018 - 10:14 a.m.
• Kinda like the Ken Starr complaining.... That whole thing was just stupid... * 10EC 12/13/2018 - 10:21 a.m.
• Nice personal attack w/o provocation. * 10EC 12/13/2018 - 8:45 a.m.
• How is that a personal attack? It appears to be your position, but feel free to defend it * Native 12/13/2018 - 8:51 a.m.
• It should have been phrased as a question rather than a statement. * GatorDJ 12/13/2018 - 8:57 a.m.
• RE: It should have been phrased as a question rather than a statement. Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 9:18 a.m.
• Okay, I will edit * Native 12/13/2018 - 9:01 a.m.
• Read the article, it's about money and influence and it's not limited to Vlad, and Mueller can go Native 12/13/2018 - 8:14 a.m.
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Gun deaths in the US hit highest level in 20 years Native 12/13/2018 - 8:04 a.m.
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My Congressman-elect now has the media hot on his heels, and it's not pretty Native 12/13/2018 - 7:49 a.m.
• #No seats for cheats. * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 12:07 p.m.
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Last night, in San Fran Native 12/13/2018 - 7:46 a.m.
• Pubs have enough votes in the house. She is not relevant. She was just at the meeting because she is GordonDawg 12/13/2018 - 9:51 a.m.
• Keep saying that, champ... * GatorJamie 12/13/2018 - 1:59 p.m.
• Uh, and how popular are Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell? She can count votes, you and Trump Native 12/13/2018 - 9:59 a.m.
• Jawja must be absolutely covered up with graveyards. The cult can whistle past them all day, Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 11:52 a.m.
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Now they want to deport Vietnamese refugees Native 12/12/2018 - 10:21 p.m.
• This may have been a ridiculous question once upon a time, but... Thunder 12/13/2018 - 9:29 a.m.
• I think the following subtweet is unfair Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 7:19 a.m.
• Trump’s motto - hit a new low every day or Kelly will let you know “You’re fired” * Dawgspeare 12/12/2018 - 11:09 p.m.
• This pointless exercise in xenophobia absolutely reeks of President Miller. Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 10:38 p.m.
• RE: This pointless exercise in xenophobia absolutely reeks of President Miller. Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 7:41 a.m.
• Germans... * 10EC 12/13/2018 - 8:15 a.m.
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PBS reporting Speaker Pelosi has agreed to limit her term as Speaker to no more than 4 years. Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 8:00 p.m.
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Well, this seems rather swampy... GatorDJ 12/12/2018 - 7:35 p.m.
• “DTS... so my administration can guzzle all the delicious slime, unfiltered by oversight!” * Dawgspeare 12/12/2018 - 11:12 p.m.
• Snowball has all the ethics of his good buddy Pruitt. No surprise to Okies. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 8:02 p.m.
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AMI's Pecker is Puckered * BBG 12/12/2018 - 7:25 p.m.
• Pecker seems a bit limp * DurangoGator 12/12/2018 - 8:57 p.m.
• Wonder if members of donnie's team are trying to get the pecker up tonight ? * BBG 12/12/2018 - 9:49 p.m.
• Individual 1 is about to get Pecker punched. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 8:02 p.m.
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Pro lifers not happy w:Kavanaugh? iPhoneHobbes 12/12/2018 - 6:01 p.m.
• Pro choicers stunned that Handmaid’s Tale hasn’t come to real life yet. * UFNY 12/12/2018 - 6:28 p.m.
• No, Kavanaugh and Roberts are looking for the right case. Case selection is very important. * GordonDawg 12/12/2018 - 6:15 p.m.
• If they are "looking for the right case" as you say then they are despicable dudehead 12/12/2018 - 6:28 p.m.
• Gordon is right IMO iPhoneHobbes 12/12/2018 - 6:37 p.m.
• There is a gulf of difference in SCOTUS reconciling split circuits and trying to adjudicate policy * dudehead 12/13/2018 - 12:44 a.m.
• RE: There is a gulf of difference in SCOTUS reconciling split circuits and trying to adjudicate poli Hobbes 12/13/2018 - 7:22 a.m.
• No. WDE mobile 12/12/2018 - 7:06 p.m.
• RE: No. Mississippi Vol 12/12/2018 - 7:32 p.m.
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Had enough winning yet? The lack of Treason-trade reaps what it sows . . . Wayne 12/12/2018 - 2:16 p.m.
• "Treason-trade"....so funny. Good post. Terrible reality. * 3rdWardGator 12/13/2018 - 2:49 a.m.
• I'm sure we can make it up by burning more coal. * BBG 12/12/2018 - 4:46 p.m.
• Clean coal. * Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 6:01 p.m.
• Beautiful Clean Coal. * GordonDawg 12/12/2018 - 6:23 p.m.
• Is Mexico paying for that , too? * BBG 12/12/2018 - 7:27 p.m.
• " Clean coal" is another dirty lie. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 10:42 p.m.
• Yep, clean coal about bankrupted Miss Power Co. - it's a myth. Ask them. * dudehead 12/13/2018 - 12:48 a.m.
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indictments start in clowtown.... peabody hall 12/12/2018 - 2:16 p.m.
• Peter Schsorch: Yep, the FBI did fornicate Andrew Gillum...biggest case since they Native 12/12/2018 - 7:35 p.m.
• Slate: FBI probe that likely cost Gillum election no longer seems interested in Gillum Native 12/12/2018 - 10:32 p.m.
• Good thing we were warned appropriately regardless... * trash 12/13/2018 - 7:24 a.m.
• But what do we "know now"? LOL * Beachmaster 12/13/2018 - 8:36 p.m.
• James Comey endorses this message * Native 12/13/2018 - 7:41 a.m.
• I am shocked. Shocked ! * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 10:40 p.m.
• As usual, Individual 1 inserts himself into the story. Keep on Drumpfing! * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 7:50 p.m.
• Hmmmm...I warned the Lounge about Gillum. Thank goodness the state was smart enough to elect a good GordonDawg 12/12/2018 - 2:21 p.m.
• I Guess We "Monkeyed" That Up For You * DaZeD 12/12/2018 - 4:57 p.m.
• You can't Monkey that on this board. * Top Cat 12/12/2018 - 8:49 p.m.
• RE: You can't Monkey that on this board. DaZeD 12/13/2018 - 8:40 a.m.
• RE: You can't Monkey that on this board. Top Cat 12/13/2018 - 1:00 p.m.
• But you can still star Top Cat. InvestiGator 12/12/2018 - 9:30 p.m.
• Hmmm, so he was indicted ? Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:31 p.m.
• But Trump!! * BelmontGator 12/12/2018 - 6:13 p.m.
• totally innocent until proven even if it is 6 words peabody hall 12/12/2018 - 3:38 p.m.
• RE: Hmmm, so he was indicted ? GordonDawg 12/12/2018 - 2:44 p.m.
• RE: Hmmm, so he was indicted ? Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 3:03 p.m.
• Almost.....Muelleresque. * UFNY 12/12/2018 - 2:36 p.m.
• another excerpt... peabody hall 12/12/2018 - 3:52 p.m.
• Maddox sounds like a crook, are you saying Gillum is guilty by association? Native 12/12/2018 - 7:05 p.m.
• The Mayors deals were significant and let me just say I will be surprised if peabody hall 12/12/2018 - 10:58 p.m.
• Almost..... Drumpfesque. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 7:52 p.m.
• Geez, that is so corrupt. * GordonDawg 12/12/2018 - 4:48 p.m.
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Partisans Prefer Legalism to Morality Hobbes 12/12/2018 - 2:05 p.m.
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It's Fact Check time!... GatorDJ 12/12/2018 - 1:48 p.m.
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National Inquirer has reached a non-prosecution agreement with US attorney SDNY Hobbes 12/12/2018 - 1:44 p.m.
• So If AMI says they did this for campaign purposes, and Cohen says he did it for campaign purposes.. Dawgzilla 12/12/2018 - 4:56 p.m.
• If even only it is only slightly for personal reasons, he is in the clear. * GordonDawg 12/12/2018 - 5:57 p.m.
• Forgetting the fact that Cohen was just sentenced to 3 yrs after pleading guilty to felony trash 12/12/2018 - 10:10 p.m.
• Not if it was someone else's money... Dawgzilla 12/12/2018 - 7:46 p.m.
• So the money Trump didn't pay to cover up sex he didn't have.... Dawgzilla 12/13/2018 - 9:28 a.m.
• RE: So If AMI says they did this for campaign purposes, and Cohen says he did it for campaign purpos iPhoneHobbes 12/12/2018 - 5:49 p.m.
• The smocking gun? * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:13 p.m.
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Jimmy Kimmel Introduces Terrifying New Sarah Sanders Toy: ‘Huckabee in a Tree’ UGADawginVA 12/12/2018 - 1:44 p.m.
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IPhoneHobbes: “I hope people remember me as 6’5” and very polite” iPhoneHobbes 12/12/2018 - 1:14 p.m.
• A co-worker of mine sat next to her at a Chik-fil-A in Va. over the weekend J.M. 12/12/2018 - 1:36 p.m.
• She has an unenviable job.I think she tries her best Flea 12/12/2018 - 1:29 p.m.
• She's often rude, condescending, dismissive, insulting and is generally FOS. * Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 2:04 p.m.
• Well, then she is eminently qualified to work for Trump, wouldn't you say? * Flea 12/12/2018 - 2:31 p.m.
• I'd say she's minimally qualified. Those are the entry level qualities. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:36 p.m.
• RE: She's often rude, condescending, dismissive, insulting and is generally FOS. Hobbes 12/12/2018 - 2:23 p.m.
• She's Mastered the Jack Elam Look & Expression Well... DaZeD 12/12/2018 - 3:04 p.m.
• That is outstanding iPhoneHobbes 12/12/2018 - 7:02 p.m.
• And those are her good points! * Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 2:26 p.m.
• Baghdad Bob had an unenviable job too. The difference is Jean Voljean 12/12/2018 - 1:48 p.m.
• I never called her honorable. I think she's doing the best she can with what she has to work. Flea 12/12/2018 - 1:57 p.m.
• Did she do her best when she lied to the nation saying that many FBI. . . Top Cat 12/12/2018 - 1:33 p.m.
• I'm sure she's had to lie for Trump many times. Flea 12/12/2018 - 1:43 p.m.
• She needs to stick to the prepared scripts, then she is just reading Trump's lies. . .When she . . Top Cat 12/12/2018 - 2:22 p.m.
• Nicolle Wallace has said that she was never asked to lie by W, just present the facts Native 12/12/2018 - 1:50 p.m.
• Why do you think I included the phrase "working for Trump"? Flea 12/12/2018 - 1:55 p.m.
• No one with a shred of decency or dignity would, hence my contempt for her * Native 12/12/2018 - 5:59 p.m.
• For her..she will have no shot at a high paying corporate job...damaged goods. * UGADawginVA 12/12/2018 - 1:45 p.m.
• NRA may be a possibility * dudehead 12/12/2018 - 2:31 p.m.
• Fox News or some high paying lobbying job Native 12/13/2018 - 9:52 a.m.
• If it's still around, and if Putin approves the hire. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:32 p.m.
• Increasingly doubtful on the former, NRA TV is firing hosts daily * Native 12/12/2018 - 6:00 p.m.
• So what do you do in that kind of position.? UFNY 12/12/2018 - 1:40 p.m.
• don't get there in the first place. * trash 12/12/2018 - 10:12 p.m.
• Quit or refuse to comply and force them to fire me. * Jean Voljean 12/12/2018 - 1:49 p.m.
• Then why would you have taken the job in the first place? UFNY 12/12/2018 - 2:01 p.m.
• You would have him assume that his employer was crooked as a prereq for the job, w/o addl proof? * GatorJamie 12/12/2018 - 2:18 p.m.
• Not sure who "him" refers to, but..... UFNY 12/12/2018 - 2:25 p.m.
• I dare say there's not been a WHSP who hasn't lied to some degree about something. Well, VOLMAN 12/12/2018 - 1:43 p.m.
• RE: I dare say there's not been a WHSP who hasn't lied to some degree about something. Well, Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:11 p.m.
• So it's not lying that y'all are concerned about, it's misrepresenting opinion pieces? * VOLMAN 12/12/2018 - 2:34 p.m.
• Which is, by definition, lying. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:37 p.m.
• But you seem to be focused on lying about one particular subject and giving a pass to VOLMAN 12/12/2018 - 2:57 p.m.
• Nope. Try again. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 3:04 p.m.
• RE: I dare say there's not been a WHSP who hasn't lied to some degree about something. Well, Hobbes 12/12/2018 - 2:27 p.m.
• Regardless..she has no credibility in terms of telling the truth. * UGADawginVA 12/12/2018 - 1:42 p.m.
• Are you sure that wasn't an onion story? * Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 1:20 p.m.
• Comedy gold. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 1:17 p.m.
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Diner Patron on Fox & Friends Says Criticizing Trump is ‘Next to Treason’ UGADawginVA 12/12/2018 - 12:29 p.m.
• RE: Diner Patron on Fox & Friends Says Criticizing Trump is ‘Next to Treason’ Top Cat 12/12/2018 - 12:49 p.m.
• Harnett Co. Exactly what I'd expect from people there. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 12:36 p.m.
• Notice they only go to Trump friendly areas to do these interviews? * UGADawginVA 12/12/2018 - 12:51 p.m.
• Oh, yeah. Notice how they usually interview elderly whites, preferably male? * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 1:10 p.m.
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Cohen gets 36 mos * Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 12:04 p.m.
• RE: Cohen gets 36 mos Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 7:22 p.m.
• Only the best people. * UGADawginVA 12/12/2018 - 12:16 p.m.
• Low end of the guideline range. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 12:18 p.m.
• Compensation for the coming goods. * GatorJamie 12/12/2018 - 2:19 p.m.
• Yep. Judge saw the redacted material in the sentencing memos. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 2:34 p.m.
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Adam Kasfeld is live tweeting Cohen's sentencing hearing Hobbes 12/12/2018 - 11:16 a.m.
• RE: Adam Kasfeld is live tweeting Cohen's sentencing hearing Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 11:47 a.m.
• RE: Adam Kasfeld is live tweeting Cohen's sentencing hearing Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 11:48 a.m.
• RE: Adam Kasfeld is live tweeting Cohen's sentencing hearing Mudlizard 12/12/2018 - 11:50 a.m.
• LOL-whining about "tone" of the SDNY memo. The first resort of the guilty AF. * Beachmaster 12/12/2018 - 11:28 a.m.
• RE: Adam Kasfeld is live tweeting Cohen's sentencing hearing Hobbes 12/12/2018 - 11:18 a.m.