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General Lounge reminder: Is your thread starter one that promotes open discussion? Mudlizard 2/27/2023 - 9:19 a.m.

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Judge Beryl Howell is the gift that keeps on giving, even in retirement Native 3/21/2023 - 7:08 p.m.

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Ron DeSantis opens fire on Trump’s character, chaotic leadership style

UGADawginVA 3/21/2023 - 5:45 p.m.

Meanwhile, one of the sponsor's of Florida's 'Don't Say Gay' bill pleads guilty to wire fraud & more Native 3/21/2023 - 6:39 p.m.

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Officers in Uvalde, TX feared for their lives due to gunman's weapon GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 4:45 p.m.

To serve and protect. * Dawgzilla 3/21/2023 - 6:02 p.m.

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Florida's "Resign to Run" Law GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 4:14 p.m.

The state legislature has already signaled changing the law Native 3/21/2023 - 4:21 p.m.

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This is so old school I don’t have words ….

10EC 3/21/2023 - 3:13 p.m.

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Best description of woke I have seen yet... UGADawginVA 3/21/2023 - 12:21 p.m.

It's a question of balance and having realistic expectations for me bahmo 3/21/2023 - 6:16 p.m.

I have yet to see someone self describe themselves as "woke" Hobbes 3/21/2023 - 4:01 p.m.

i had a Temple undergrad proudly desribe herself as "a politically correct person" in 1991. * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 4:47 p.m.

RE: i had a Temple undergrad proudly desribe herself as "a politically correct person" in 1991. iPhoneHobbes 3/21/2023 - 7:34 p.m.

I wouldn't say it's the same, but the term "woke" definitely evolved from it. Flea 3/21/2023 - 5:49 p.m.

Politically correct was a pejorative, just like woke became - this is what the right always does Native 3/21/2023 - 5:53 p.m.

She said it proudly, so it appears to have once been nonpejorative to some. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 7:03 p.m.

The left does it, too. "Tots and pears" comes to mind. But yes, liberal/prog is another example. Flea 3/21/2023 - 5:56 p.m.

I don't disagree with that, but what is there to like or find consensus with on the right Native 3/21/2023 - 6:05 p.m.

Meanwhile the Honorable Senator Paul Native 3/21/2023 - 6:36 p.m.

The problem with your and Clockie's approach Native 3/21/2023 - 6:08 p.m.

It’s been awhile but up until a couple years ago Jean Voljean 3/21/2023 - 4:37 p.m.

Yep. Probably did the notion a disservice by giving it a name that could be appropriated, LOL. * Flea 3/21/2023 - 5:45 p.m.

Let's hear from the victims of "wokeness"... 3rdWardGator 3/21/2023 - 3:28 p.m.

Correct. * Inspector Vol 3/21/2023 - 6:04 p.m.

We apparently need to retire this word. Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 1:16 p.m.

I agree both sides use it as short hand, but it's been overwelmingly the right that has bastardized Native 3/21/2023 - 1:47 p.m.

I agree that it was totally hijacked-- first by those who wanted to claim it for themselves, and Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 1:50 p.m.

I don't care what you call those to whom it applies... 3rdWardGator 3/21/2023 - 2:30 p.m.

I mean, the way it was used was intrinsic to Black culture, a little unfair, IMO, to strip that Native 3/21/2023 - 1:53 p.m.

Or is that a response to white people being told they are inherently evil? 3rdWardGator 3/21/2023 - 2:37 p.m.

No one has told us that - but he defensiveness displayed in this post is off the charts * Native 3/21/2023 - 2:45 p.m.

Really? Then explain this... 3rdWardGator 3/21/2023 - 3:23 p.m.

Why do people have to explain what some random podcaster or youtuber Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 4:05 p.m.

I don't know what you're talking about GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 4:17 p.m.

You must have missed the memo, social media, 1619 project, etc etc. * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 2:46 p.m.

That is certainly not the message I took from The 1619 Project, unless you are looking to interpret Native 3/21/2023 - 2:51 p.m.

So we do evil things but we're not evil? * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 2:59 p.m.

Evil things were done, but that does not mean WE are evil. * Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 4:01 p.m.

According to many, it does mean that. See 3rds' many posts. * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 4:03 p.m.

As I posted to him above, we all know we can find people online who promote Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 4:07 p.m.

They're relaying real life experiences in real life places. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 4:23 p.m.

I'm not playing this game with you - some people are evil and some aren't Native 3/21/2023 - 3:05 p.m.

There's no "game" here. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 3:10 p.m.

I don't disagree on that but the damage is done. It's become a useless word. Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 1:59 p.m.

I agree with your first point but will still let them make that determination, and yes, it's always Native 3/21/2023 - 2:36 p.m.

It's much like The Drag Wars. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 1:18 p.m.

Let me pick a nit here Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 1:34 p.m.

Is it a nit if we agree? UFNY 3/21/2023 - 1:38 p.m.

RE: Is it a nit if we agree? Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 1:47 p.m.

RE: Best description of woke I have seen yet... (possibly nsfw) Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 12:32 p.m.

Thanks, and that was spot on in my opinion. It also stirred two distinct memories for me GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 12:31 p.m.

Sounds familiar, though I can't recall any relatives like that, I do remember some people I've Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 1:07 p.m.

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Any of you played the Wikipedia "5 clicks to Hitler" challenge? GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 11:20 a.m.

Got it in 4 - Mickey Guyton (singer) Dawgspeare 3/21/2023 - 4:14 p.m.

I got an easy one. Napeague, New York/WW 2/Adolph * Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 1:20 p.m.

Did it twice... Flea 3/21/2023 - 12:19 p.m.

Is the second time you play it technically Germans? :) * GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 1:27 p.m.

Platytropius siamesnsis - Thailand - Allies of WWII - Hitler * Albert 3/21/2023 - 11:45 a.m.

Thanks for the assist re: India in WWII Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 11:44 a.m.

Morocco > French Army > Battle of France > Hitler * Phred 3/21/2023 - 11:29 a.m.

4 for me CONSIGLIEREG8R 3/21/2023 - 12:15 p.m.

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A board challenge: steelmanning Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 11:09 a.m.

Nice try, it survived until the 2nd thread started after. trash 3/21/2023 - 3:57 p.m.

I am pro choice. My best Argument is it means women will live. Anti abortion folks don't care. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/21/2023 - 2:34 p.m.

I can understand that argument. 10EC 3/21/2023 - 3:11 p.m.

Well done. Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 7:29 p.m.

Try this style back to me. * 10EC 3/21/2023 - 7:55 p.m.

RE: I am pro choice. My best Argument is it means women will live. Anti abortion folks don't care. Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 2:56 p.m.

When you have been arguing for 50 plus years there are not many sides left unheard. Strong or not. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/21/2023 - 6:55 p.m.

You’re wrong, because I said so. Nana nana boo boo. 😎 * Inspector Vol 3/21/2023 - 1:08 p.m.

I challenge you….. make a steel man argument against derogatory terms used for our politicians 10EC 3/21/2023 - 11:30 a.m.

I, and others, have made arguments against. One could even say that the use of disparaging nicknames Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 11:35 a.m.

Disagree - I'm following Dr. Bitecofer who says the only way to deal with persistent and chronic Native 3/21/2023 - 5:50 p.m.

Thanks. Understand both sides. Just thought it would be a good example. * 10EC 3/21/2023 - 11:45 a.m.

I actually think it's a tough one, directly challenging what I bolded in the OP * Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 11:49 a.m.

You're welcome... :) * 10EC 3/21/2023 - 11:55 a.m.

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Speaking of funding private schools, State of Alabama asked to “infuse” $37,000,000 to iPhoneHobbes 3/21/2023 - 7:05 a.m. Edited by Author on 3/21/2023 - 7:06 a.m.

Edited by Author on 3/21/2023 - 7:06 a.m.

So why is it called privateif they are asking for public funding * CrocodileJimV 3/21/2023 - 10:41 a.m.

It is affiliated with the Methodist church. It enjoyed a (deserved) reputation of being a very good Hobbes 3/21/2023 - 8:05 p.m.

RE: Speaking of funding private schools, State of Alabama asked to “infuse” $37,000,000 to aubie in bham 3/21/2023 - 7:32 a.m.

that place is an embarrassment at this point - no idea why it's still standing. * BBG 3/21/2023 - 8:25 a.m.

It remains there in order to punish teams for having to play in the Birmingham Bowl. * Phred 3/21/2023 - 8:41 a.m.

Did that not get moved to UAB's new stadium? * GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 10:42 a.m.

RE: It remains there in order to punish teams for having to play in the Birmingham Bowl. iPhoneHobbes 3/21/2023 - 10:23 a.m.

I went most recently when we played ECU BBG 3/21/2023 - 8:52 a.m.

I had the same experience several years ago. I felt like I was going to get mugged. Phred 3/21/2023 - 9:23 a.m.

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Author Jodi Picoult with the point I was trying to make below Native 3/20/2023 - 10:44 p.m. Edited by Author on 3/20/2023 - 10:46 p.m.

Edited by Author on 3/20/2023 - 10:46 p.m.

Yet progs are deciding JK Rowling's books aren't appropriate for anyone. * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 8:19 a.m.

I doubt many "progs" would agree with this statement Clockwork Orange 3/21/2023 - 8:21 a.m.

I am one of those progressives who would put copies of her books everywhere kids are! * GR82BaFLG8R 3/21/2023 - 10:01 a.m.

There seems to be a wee bit of projecting going on again * Native 3/21/2023 - 10:06 a.m.

As I have said before, I do not favor book banning and do not think Harry Potter books should be Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 10:26 a.m.

It was the Christians who wanted to ban the book because of witchcraft. * Wize Guy 3/21/2023 - 9:56 a.m.

This ^^^^^^^^^ * GR82BaFLG8R 3/21/2023 - 2:27 p.m.

Point being, attempts at censoring because of (fill in grievance) are commonplace. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 8:36 a.m.

Walgreens was a recent boycotting example…. Similar * 10EC 3/21/2023 - 11:34 a.m.

no, I don't want her books pulled from anywhere. Am I prog? No idea. BBG 3/21/2023 - 8:26 a.m.

RE: no, I don't want her books pulled from anywhere. Am I prog? No idea. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 8:50 a.m.

No, no, no. I claim crank. * bahmo 3/21/2023 - 9:38 a.m.

I said it first! You can have crunk. * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 12:42 p.m.

Deal. Or, maybe I will take crotchety. * bahmo 3/21/2023 - 5:30 p.m.

(shake) * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 7:05 p.m.

Her books turned a generation of kids into lifelong readers, she has tarnished her legacy but the Native 3/21/2023 - 8:38 a.m.

Really good point in your subject line. * Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 10:24 a.m.

I usually try and look at the big picture * Native 3/21/2023 - 10:54 a.m.

Yup, you nailed it, and of course the Harry Potter series is often on banned book lists Native 3/21/2023 - 8:24 a.m.

Yep, some crackpot here complained to the county library about them "promoting witchcraft". LOL! * Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 9:05 a.m.

The GQP is all about "parental rights", unless those parents want to take their kids to a drag show Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 8:07 a.m.

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CNN sez Fani Willis considering RICO charges Native 3/20/2023 - 9:16 p.m.

“It is never RICO” * iPhoneHobbes 3/21/2023 - 12:52 a.m.

Every party needs a pooper! * Native 3/21/2023 - 10:06 a.m.

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Don’t those Mexicans know only the City of Kelo can seize private propert?

iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 5:17 p.m.

RE: Don’t those Mexicans know only the City of Kelo can seize private propert? UFNY 3/20/2023 - 7:58 p.m.

RE: Don’t those Mexicans know only the City of Kelo can seize private propert? iPhoneHobbes 3/21/2023 - 6:50 a.m.

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Can *anyone* provide information on charter MiamiGator 3/20/2023 - 4:56 p.m.

Here is the more direct answer without all my editorializing bahmo 3/20/2023 - 11:10 p.m.

"Those statutes pertaining to the student assessment program and school grading system." UFNY 3/21/2023 - 6:57 a.m.

There isn’t, and never has been, any evidence that they aren’t tested. MiamiGator 3/21/2023 - 8:33 a.m.

Charter students are most definitely still tested, and the schools are still graded. * bahmo 3/21/2023 - 8:28 a.m.

That's good to know, thank you. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 8:38 a.m.

One of the few things Florida charters do have to do bahmo 3/20/2023 - 9:31 p.m.

I can agree with lots of that MiamiGator 3/20/2023 - 9:44 p.m.

I've said it before but it bears repeating. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 9:42 p.m.

RE: I've said it before but it bears repeating. IED's in charter schools? In Iraq? * CONSIGLIEREG8R 3/21/2023 - 9:46 a.m.

Typo. IEP. * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 12:51 p.m.

If that were the system or even 25% of it in Florida, bahmo 3/20/2023 - 10:01 p.m.

Thanks for taking the time to present your experience Native 3/20/2023 - 10:12 p.m.

One last post before I hang up and listen bahmo 3/20/2023 - 10:25 p.m.

Theoretically, in a higher-student-mobility environment like that..... UFNY 3/21/2023 - 6:55 a.m.

Here's some examples from Gainesville bahmo 3/21/2023 - 9:18 a.m.

Thanks for all that. My brother lives in those districts. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 12:50 p.m.

Your description of charters and districts seems similar to the relationship of Medicare advantage dudehead 3/20/2023 - 11:03 p.m.

Pam from the Office bahmo 3/20/2023 - 10:41 p.m.

Good rant, I don't agree 100% with everything you wrote but most rings true. On the community Native 3/20/2023 - 10:37 p.m.

If people start agreeing with me 100%, run. All is not well. * bahmo 3/20/2023 - 10:43 p.m.

I appreciate your efforts, your expertise as well as dedication is obvious * Native 3/20/2023 - 10:49 p.m.

Great post - Billy Townsend is someone I follow who has been all over Jefferson County's corruption * Native 3/20/2023 - 9:35 p.m.

I follow him and accountabaloney. They are sometimes off or too flippant, but bahmo 3/20/2023 - 9:45 p.m.

And for those who think I must be too far left, ask me what I think about the union bahmo 3/20/2023 - 10:15 p.m.

Do you know who he is married to? I would not question anything he says re education. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/20/2023 - 7:07 p.m.

Then it should be easy to post the asked-for proof. * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 7:11 p.m.

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Miami Beach having a curfew during Spring Break while Puddin' Ron and his minions are trying to pass Native 3/20/2023 - 2:31 p.m.

Well, if they're from out of town, they just have to be the aaannntttiiifffaaa!!! * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 2:56 p.m.

They are all dressed in black donchaknow? * GR82BaFLG8R 3/20/2023 - 7:04 p.m.

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Ron VS. MAGA... You hate to see it... UGADawginVA 3/20/2023 - 12:30 p.m.

Chefs kiss here…. UGADawginVA 3/20/2023 - 1:43 p.m.

Why the #badword# are there flags of politicians here in the US? GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 3:29 p.m.

What else goes with a bigass 4x4 truck but a "Let's Go Brandon" flag? With black smoke. * Phred 3/21/2023 - 8:44 a.m.

A lift kit, chrome wheels that cost more than their entire wardrobe, giant fart can exhaust, Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 9:29 a.m.

That’s the first thing I say to Trumpers…why care so much about a politician? * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 6:30 p.m.

I think it's as much a thumb in the eye of "the libs" as hero-worship. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 6:44 p.m.

I didn’t see/don’t see many folks wearing Obama gear. * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 8:57 p.m.

Hey Siri, Google, Obama T-shirts * MiamiGator 3/20/2023 - 9:38 p.m.

How long did you see them after he was elected and out of office? * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 10:00 p.m.

Tell me you only live among whites w/o saying it..... * 10EC 3/21/2023 - 12:03 a.m.

Geez man. Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 5:53 a.m.

And you see/saw no Obama propaganda? Come on… 10EC 3/21/2023 - 6:29 a.m.

Of course I did, but that wasn't the point I was making Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 7:57 a.m.

Maybe it is picking nits, but I differentiate between campaign posters/buttons, etc... GatorCane 3/21/2023 - 11:23 a.m.

I agree...my wife and I took a water taxi ride across a large lake recently when we were on Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 11:35 a.m.

Two houses down from mine they still have the 2020 loser's flag flying on the back yard flagpole. * Beachmaster 3/21/2023 - 1:18 p.m.

You should move… :) * 10EC 3/21/2023 - 11:38 a.m.

There was an actual store in Pasco County on SR 54 selling just Trump swag Native 3/21/2023 - 8:50 a.m.

I still see O stuff… about the same as Trump. So yeah, I understood and was addressing your post. 10EC 3/21/2023 - 8:08 a.m.

I have a Reagan Bush '84 T-Shirt. And put a Reagan Bush '84 bumper sticker on my car in 2016. * Hobbes 3/21/2023 - 8:07 p.m.

What kinds of things are you seeing? Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 8:19 a.m.

Bumper stickers for sure. Some old flags and signs. 10EC 3/21/2023 - 8:50 a.m.

Do you think those things are available for purchase these days, or they are Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 9:02 a.m.

I see neither for sale here. And they newness/oldness wasn't part of the thread. You may 10EC 3/21/2023 - 9:08 a.m.

RE: I see neither for sale here. And they newness/oldness wasn't part of the thread. You may Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 9:12 a.m.

Read it again yourself… “How long did you see them?” It doesn’t say “for sale” 10EC 3/21/2023 - 9:20 a.m.

OK. * Mudlizard 3/21/2023 - 9:27 a.m.

Did you do it? * MiamiGator 3/20/2023 - 10:26 p.m.

I don’t recal any clothing, but the Hope posters were pretty popular. Flea 3/20/2023 - 9:25 p.m.

Not even close * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 10:04 p.m.

I mean, the Obamas are popular and legit marketable as far as book and network sales Native 3/20/2023 - 9:52 p.m.

But surely you see them waving huge flags and driving around with car flags Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 9:08 p.m.

I haven’t seen any sales numbers. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 9:05 p.m.

Are you being serious? * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 7:10 p.m.

he is. * BBG 3/20/2023 - 8:17 p.m.

Are you? * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 7:12 p.m.

And you wonder why. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 8:31 p.m.

I don’t wonder, I understand it UFNY 3/20/2023 - 8:37 p.m.

Yes. I’m a very unreasonable person. And Trumpers and Obama fans are exactly the same. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 9:05 p.m.

Agreed. Weird. * CoachTony 3/20/2023 - 5:58 p.m.

Cult * Native 3/20/2023 - 4:41 p.m.

LOLOL - lots of good Arrestmas Eve memes out there right now Native 3/20/2023 - 1:48 p.m.

I am still not confident it is happening tomorrow. I think Pres. Trump is just stirring stuff up GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 3:30 p.m.

Oh, for sure. I think it likely happens in the next week or so. BTW, not sure if anyone caught it Native 3/20/2023 - 3:37 p.m.

It's all about continuing the grift and trying to freeze the field of rivals for the GQP nomination Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 3:48 p.m.

FTR, the Twitterverse says GJ on meets on Monday and Wednesday, so definitely not Native 3/20/2023 - 4:46 p.m.

Even Steve and Mike Lindell agree UGADawginVA 3/20/2023 - 1:01 p.m.

what's so crazy to me is that the Christian base - evangelicals, southern Baptists and the like BBG 3/20/2023 - 1:09 p.m.

Can you imagine if Ds had attacked the DA who indicted John Edwards, for basically the same thing Native 3/20/2023 - 4:28 p.m.

Truth is, once they had no moral qualms voting for him the first time... GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 1:26 p.m.

RE: Truth is, once they had no moral qualms voting for him the first time... BBG 3/20/2023 - 4:13 p.m.

With the additional money they now have in their wallets... GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 5:09 p.m.

What are the chances Donnie really does have dirt on Puddin' Ron and decides to disclose it Native 3/20/2023 - 12:41 p.m.

RE: What are the chances Donnie really does have dirt on Puddin' Ron and decides to disclose it BBG 3/20/2023 - 1:01 p.m.

Meanwhile, unsurprisingly, Gov. DeSantis returns to a well-worn anti-Semitic trope to attack Trump GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 12:35 p.m.

Wasn’t Bragg’s campaign partially financed by Soros’ PAC? Why would that statement DurangoGator 3/20/2023 - 2:26 p.m.

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Finland is world’s happiest country? 🇫🇮 iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 11:16 a.m. Edited by Author on 3/20/2023 - 11:17 a.m.

Edited by Author on 3/20/2023 - 11:17 a.m.

Sofia Karppi approves. 🇫🇮 * Phred 3/20/2023 - 12:01 p.m.

RE: Sofia Karppi approves. 🇫🇮 Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 12:07 p.m.

OMG, that was another great series. Bordertown and The Bridge. * Phred 3/20/2023 - 4:01 p.m.

RE: OMG, that was another great series. Bordertown and The Bridge. iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 5:18 p.m.

I think it's Danish, but in the same mode as the Nordic noir series. Phred 3/21/2023 - 8:33 a.m.

RE: I think it's Danish, but in the same mode as the Nordic noir series. Hobbes 3/21/2023 - 8:09 p.m.

If you don’t mind civil unrest and rockets falling on your head. Israel makes sense at #4. * 10EC 3/20/2023 - 11:41 a.m.

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When you legalize selling weed but leave all the red tape in place, and add more. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 11:08 a.m.

We just need federal action on this now, too bad Biden is so weed-resistant * Native 3/20/2023 - 11:12 a.m.

I don't know how much Biden can do about local zoning and other red tape. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 11:14 a.m.

He can reschedule it, which would be a game changer * Native 3/20/2023 - 11:51 a.m.

Agree, but that's only 10-15% of the red tape in NYC. * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 11:57 a.m.

Pretty sure that would solve a lot of problems and the rest would work themselves out Native 3/20/2023 - 12:05 p.m.

Not a chance. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 12:07 p.m.

Then perhaps they need to elect people who will figure it out, it has been done other places Native 3/20/2023 - 12:26 p.m.

Full circle back to the original post. * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 12:27 p.m.

Who knows, you won't find me defending Eric Adams, and I still hope Biden will do the right thing * Native 3/20/2023 - 12:39 p.m.

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Another Florida Phoenix column from Diane Roberts that addresses the thing I don't get about the Native 3/20/2023 - 11:07 a.m.

Did Puddin' Ron and his extreme agenda peak too soon? Native 3/20/2023 - 12:00 p.m.

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The state sent undercover agents into drag shows. No lewd acts were observed, but still the venues Native 3/20/2023 - 9:41 a.m.

Any kid with an internet connection, a keyboard & mouse are a few clicks away from lewd acts iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 5:25 p.m.

RE: Any kid with an internet connection, a keyboard & mouse are a few clicks away from lewd acts Wize Guy 3/20/2023 - 6:29 p.m.

RE: Any kid with an internet connection, a keyboard & mouse are a few clicks away from lewd acts iPhoneHobbes 3/21/2023 - 12:49 a.m.

Explain that to this drag queen... 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 10:36 a.m.

No one did what you just accused us of, although I should note that a drag show at a bar does not Native 3/20/2023 - 11:09 a.m.

Here comes the gaslighting. 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 11:25 a.m.

It’s not gaslighting when both sides are talking past each other. Questioning the fact that drag trash 3/20/2023 - 12:12 p.m.

Who here has defended children attending pornographic drag shows? * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 11:57 a.m.

You. For one. In this and in the thread below. 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:17 p.m.

Your words are nonsense. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 3:27 p.m.

No. My words make sense. That's why you are pissed. * 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:48 p.m.

Your words are nonsense. Either you don't understand what I am saying Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 3:58 p.m.

The only thing I said is I don't see any difference between a drag show at Hamburger Mary's (when Native 3/20/2023 - 12:04 p.m.

Hooters groping/grooming is ok because it's straight. MURKA!!!! * Cheap Bastard 3/20/2023 - 2:05 p.m.

Two words: “duct tape” iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 5:37 p.m.

We are talking about sexually explicit shows...and I don't believe anyone here supports Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 12:12 p.m.

Beachmaster, Native, Cane all have. 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:08 p.m.

Your comprehension of written word is, to be kind, questionable. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 3:28 p.m.

i concede... 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:58 p.m.

Those are your facts. Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 4:03 p.m.

see edits above * 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 4:05 p.m.

RE: see edits above Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 4:07 p.m.

RE: see edits above 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 4:09 p.m.

Some here imply that drag shows are by def sexually explicit & therefore the states, not parents trash 3/20/2023 - 1:09 p.m.

Uh...that's LITERALLY defending parents bringing them to shows. 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:10 p.m.

Yes, I know and I have argued that as well. I am just trying (struggling) to dispel what I believe Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 1:13 p.m.

Depends on what you mean by "truly obscene content". * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 1:14 p.m.

Deleted post read- See, there they aren't not defending again. 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:52 p.m.

Stop insulting anyone who disagrees with you, and/or calling people liars * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 3:56 p.m.

The deleted post above didn't call anyone a liar 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:59 p.m.

I don't know for sure what that post said, but it should be pretty obvious to anyone Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 4:05 p.m.

It said- See, there they are not defending again. * 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 4:09 p.m.

OK, maybe a little ticky tack on that one. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 4:12 p.m.

Admin Deleted 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:10 p.m.

Which is why it belongs in the parents decision lane, not legislated. * trash 3/20/2023 - 1:49 p.m.

That's the irony, isn't it? Thunder 3/21/2023 - 7:22 a.m.

That is exactly what I have said all along. * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 4:27 p.m.

Did you see this Dahlia Lithwick column? We're all fetuses now Native 3/20/2023 - 2:03 p.m.

So you're cool with kids at X-rated movies and strip clubs? * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 1:52 p.m.

Within existing law I am cool with deciding what my kids can and cannot see and not leave it up to trash 3/20/2023 - 4:18 p.m.

Is it illegal for kids to go to strip clubs and X-rated movies? * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 6:06 p.m.

100 possible answers to that question only considering state laws. Most places I know of doesn’t trash 3/20/2023 - 10:04 p.m.

So there are actually laws against exposing kids to certain content in certain contexts? * UFNY 3/21/2023 - 6:49 a.m.

ever heard of google? * trash 3/21/2023 - 7:28 a.m.

Point being, there are laws that prevent kids from seeing certain things deemed inappropriate. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 7:32 a.m.

And many of those are regulated due to their commercial activity, and parents retain the legal, trash 3/21/2023 - 9:31 a.m.

Nevertheless, they are regulated. So OMG DRAG is simply a matter of the line. UFNY 3/21/2023 - 1:08 p.m.

Where's your libertarian spirit? * Cheap Bastard 3/20/2023 - 2:04 p.m.

What does that have to do with this question? * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 2:06 p.m.

Lol intentional obtuseness...again * Cheap Bastard 3/20/2023 - 2:09 p.m.

On your part, you clearly mean. I don't know if it's intentional or not. So, no answer? * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 2:12 p.m.

Admin Deleted Cheap Bastard 3/20/2023 - 2:19 p.m.

I don't know your point. Is it really that hard for you to simply explain it? * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 2:22 p.m.

Thanks for playing. You always make me smile :) * Cheap Bastard 3/20/2023 - 2:25 p.m.

Is your point that Libertarians have no rules? * 10EC 3/20/2023 - 2:27 p.m.

I thought that might be it, but it's such an idiotic take that I gave him credit for something more. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 2:31 p.m.

I thought his point was pretty obvious. You seem to be favoring legislation here? * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 2:50 p.m.

I guess you play "tee-hee you have guess what my point is!" better than I do. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 6:05 p.m.

I think the point was libertarians believe in freedoms with limited legislation * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 2:31 p.m.

Good point. I should have said “Limited” * 10EC 3/20/2023 - 2:45 p.m.

I mean the type of content that 3rd repeatedly maintains happens at drag shows Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 1:17 p.m.

Except I linked to actual drag queens commenting on the topic 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:15 p.m.

I do not know what goes on in the drag shows that upset you so. Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 3:36 p.m.

I am not twisting anything. 3rdWardGator 3/20/2023 - 3:54 p.m.

Now you know why I refused to give you a simple yes or no answer * Native 3/20/2023 - 3:40 p.m.

Yeah but I have no interest in misrepresenting your position. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 3:42 p.m.

And I didn't mean to imply that, you weren't ever the one I was concerned about FTR * Native 3/20/2023 - 3:52 p.m.

That doesn't really answer the question. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 1:23 p.m.

Any more than an R- or X-rated movie, I just think it needs to remain clear what Florida is doing Native 3/20/2023 - 12:14 p.m.

Lol…just a simple yes or no would make the conversation crystal clear. Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 12:39 p.m.

Hello...do you read the Lounge? Native 3/20/2023 - 1:04 p.m.

So you're unwilling to say you don't think there is anything wrong with taking kids to Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 1:15 p.m.

I would take a child to a Drag Queen reading at a library or Book Store during the day or early GR82BaFLG8R 3/20/2023 - 6:56 p.m.

I think there is a serious problem with that. iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 5:28 p.m.

No offense intended, but there has to be a simpler way to say what you just said. * Albert 3/20/2023 - 1:22 p.m.

Agree...see my first post in this thread...I thought that was pretty simple! * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 1:26 p.m.

Huh? I thought we were in agreement, so I apparently misunderstood your point. Native 3/20/2023 - 1:17 p.m.

Great! I was not trying to gotcha anything. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 1:18 p.m.

Clearly, I missed your point * Native 3/20/2023 - 1:22 p.m.

Florida is banning anything DRAG related, period. Just like every other legislation, incluidng the 6 Native 3/20/2023 - 11:34 a.m.

Because Florida’s current leadership is hell bent on tormenting the LGBTQ+ community * GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 11:54 a.m.

Some friends on a private FB group I belong to, including at least one name you will recognize Native 3/20/2023 - 12:31 p.m.

Banning probably isn't the right word, but criminalizing it in a way that makes it an extremely Native 3/20/2023 - 11:53 a.m.

If you're routinely seeing nudity involving male performers, you're at a male strip club GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 10:10 a.m.

Further confirmation this latest ginned-up moral panic is politically motivated and the claims by Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 10:05 a.m.

We will still here the same BS anecdotes about nudity and other nonsense at drag shows, meanwhile Native 3/20/2023 - 10:09 a.m.

And staged propaganda videos from far right extremist websites with the credibility of RT.com, Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 11:18 a.m.

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"Seek out an Iraq veteran and don’t just thank them for their service. Instead, ask them to share.. Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 8:52 a.m. Starred by 4 People

Starred by 4 People

RE: "Seek out an Iraq veteran and don’t just thank them for their service. Instead, ask them to shar Inspector Vol 3/20/2023 - 9:50 a.m.

That column resonates with me. My nephew is in USAF SF. He currently is at Minot Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 10:53 a.m.

Auburn Mother Fbomb-er? * 10EC 3/20/2023 - 11:46 a.m.

RE: "Seek out an Iraq veteran and don’t just thank them for their service. Instead, ask them to sha Clockwork Orange 3/20/2023 - 9:58 a.m.

RE: "Seek out an Iraq veteran and don’t just thank them for their service. Instead, ask them to sh Inspector Vol 3/20/2023 - 10:32 a.m.

My Battalion was on FOB Kalsu, 2009-2010, when was your son there? FLVOL 3/20/2023 - 12:18 p.m.

Share a story. * Hobbes 3/21/2023 - 8:11 p.m.

RE: "Seek out an Iraq veteran and don’t just thank them for their service. Instead, ask them to s Clockwork Orange 3/20/2023 - 10:42 a.m.

RE: "Seek out an Iraq veteran and don’t just thank them for their service. Instead, ask them to Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 10:49 a.m.

Thank you for sharing that link GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 9:27 a.m.

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Kentucky lawmakers one-up other GOP states with the cruelty toward transgendered youth GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 8:19 a.m.

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Can you smell the freedum, Floriduh? Those radicals at the League of Women Voters denied permission Native 3/20/2023 - 8:18 a.m.

Another aaannntttiiifffaaa!!! riot averted. * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 8:32 a.m.

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Xi visiting Russia. So China’s kind of evil if they’re supporting the Ukraine invasion. SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 8:11 a.m.

Yeah I await Putin’s take on Xi addressing those unequal treaties between the Czars and the Qing iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 11:21 a.m.

Munich. Hitler. 1938. * Thunder 3/20/2023 - 11:14 a.m.

Outstanding plan Mr. Chamberlain. Putin couldn't have said it better himself. * trash 3/20/2023 - 9:29 a.m.

The "majority Russian" areas where Putin abducted kids and shipped them away from their parents? Flea 3/20/2023 - 9:27 a.m.

Those areas were Russified pre-war. What is alternative-forever war? Bomb Ukraine to ground? * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 10:24 a.m.

Sudetenland was Germanified prior to the Nazi invasion. Same rationalization they used. * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 12:04 p.m.

Yes. Europe has been in flux for Millennia. Borders are sometimes arbitrary. Goal=end war. * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 12:15 p.m.

Ending war is great, but Putin is an aggressive bully and Ukraine is kicking his ass Native 3/20/2023 - 12:37 p.m.

Putin won’t stop. If China supports him=further escalation. Not going to “win”. * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 1:00 p.m.

Putin is a loser, I don't think Xi is that stupid and we need to make it clear Native 3/20/2023 - 1:05 p.m.

Sounds good. I like your confident outlook. * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 1:08 p.m.

Pretty much. Perhaps WWIII. * BurrGator 3/20/2023 - 11:07 a.m.

Agree completely * Native 3/20/2023 - 9:29 a.m.

You'd reward Putin's aggression and war crimes by giving him part of Ukraine? Madness. * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 8:44 a.m.

It needs to end. Those areas that are majority Russian. Let them vote. * SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 8:50 a.m.

Who would hold the vote? And you trust Russia to run an election? * Native 3/20/2023 - 9:19 a.m.

They had one just before Putin declared those areas Russian territory. Flea 3/20/2023 - 9:29 a.m.

I’ve seen many Western news reports from Crimea. Many ID as Russian. Majority? SpacinGator 3/20/2023 - 10:26 a.m.

Wasn't it like 96%? * chigatorbri 3/20/2023 - 9:56 a.m.

Anything coming out of Crimea is propaganda, even MSNBC aired some shameful one-sided Native 3/20/2023 - 10:10 a.m.

Agreed, Putin is already eyeing Moldova and beyond, who could trust him to honor any agreement? * Native 3/20/2023 - 8:48 a.m.

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This could be the word if the year.... UGADawginVA 3/20/2023 - 12:04 a.m.

This is amusing - J6 arrestees waking up to the fact they went to jail for someone (NSFW) Native 3/20/2023 - 7:51 a.m.

It's harder to get people to admit they were conned than to con them in the first place. Glad some Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 8:48 a.m.

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When will the Republican party pay a price for their lies? Nimrata Haley Native 3/19/2023 - 10:39 p.m.

Adam Serwer at The Atantic says the liars will eventually lose Native 3/19/2023 - 10:51 p.m.

But, we remain in a disinformation war, and it's important to call every single one out: Native 3/20/2023 - 8:02 a.m.

Speaking of lies and disinformation, it's no wonder why the Bullshit Boys hate him so much. Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 9:04 a.m.

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Drove past Mara Lago today. Mudlizard 3/19/2023 - 8:48 p.m.

Our firm decided to do a scavenger hunt team building exercise last spring iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 7:07 a.m.

Someone got a SS visit? Good place to drop this - The Atlantic says TFG's arrest is a good Native 3/20/2023 - 7:55 a.m.

They need a serious purging, as does the NY FBI office. * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 9:06 a.m.

RE: Someone got a SS visit? Good place to drop this - The Atlantic says TFG's arrest is a good Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 8:39 a.m.

I do wish his first indictment was for one of the more serious cases. Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 8:24 a.m.

His many other crimes may be considered worse, but this one is no jaywalking ticket. Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 9:35 a.m.

I honestly don't know what the delay is here, the case here has always seemed the most clear to me * GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 8:36 a.m.

Agree--I said last week I wished Willis would announce an indictment pretty damn soon. * Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 9:08 a.m.

I'm okay with a BOGO deal of indictments this week. Jack Smith is quietly doing his thang as well * Native 3/20/2023 - 8:41 a.m.

Good read on the Drumpf investigation that we haven't heard much about. He didn't stop criming Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 1:40 p.m.

Given A1A is 2 lanes...not ideal. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 7:52 a.m.

The bike ride there along the inter coastal is great sightseeing also…rentals available * Peabody Hall 3/19/2023 - 10:39 p.m.

Seems now it will just be a coincidence if Tuesday is Indictment Day of Celebration. * Jean Voljean 3/19/2023 - 9:39 p.m.

Went looking for Trump sparking wine to celebrate it with GatorCane 3/19/2023 - 9:52 p.m.

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Does anyone know WTF Florida Man is talking about with this word salad Native 3/19/2023 - 8:24 p.m. Edited by Author on 3/19/2023 - 8:36 p.m.

Edited by Author on 3/19/2023 - 8:36 p.m.

Wow. Maybe it’s the crowd I run with but Floridians actually go to church iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 7:11 a.m.

You’re a bit mistaken there I’m afraid GatorCane 3/20/2023 - 7:56 a.m.

I guess I dated myself. Time was the RW premillennial dispensationalists Xtians thought Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 11:02 a.m.

Nauseating. Never ceases to be a total tool. He and Cruz are perfect together * Cheap Bastard 3/19/2023 - 10:56 p.m.

Are there not “working class communities” in Tampa Bay? * GatorCane 3/19/2023 - 9:20 p.m.

In the Drumpfentariat wing of GOP “working class” means white * iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 7:12 a.m.

He must have missed them on his path to the Ivy League * Native 3/19/2023 - 10:35 p.m.

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He doesn'took good.... UGADawginVA 3/19/2023 - 7:29 p.m.

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So about the “Last of Us” finals (spoiler alert) iPhoneHobbes 3/19/2023 - 6:51 p.m.

I wish I had a kid J.M. 3/20/2023 - 7:30 a.m.

The opening scene was great. The whole "science guy wants lab" storyline had us WTFing. Flea 3/20/2023 - 1:24 p.m.

RE: The opening scene was great. The whole "science guy wants lab" storyline had us WTFing. J.M. 3/20/2023 - 2:07 p.m.

My dotter is yuge MCU fan. So I got to go to all of those in theatres. Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 10:59 a.m.

Yeah, people want to make way more out of it than it is. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 7:05 p.m.

The actress that played one of those attendants was in the video game Native 3/19/2023 - 7:04 p.m.

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I'm so happy Jen Paski is back - advice we can all use: "Let your woke flag fly!" Native 3/19/2023 - 6:35 p.m.

"Yes, please do!" - the R election comitttee. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 6:37 p.m.

Exactly the point! It's not quite the winning message you Rs seem to think * Native 3/19/2023 - 6:42 p.m.

RE: Exactly the point! It's not quite the winning message you Rs seem to think Beachmaster 3/20/2023 - 9:52 a.m.

MSCBBF is not wrong * Native 3/20/2023 - 10:14 a.m.

We'll see about that. I think it's a lot less popular than you might think. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 6:46 p.m.

I think it's attacking wokeness that is less popular than you think. DB on how he's out-of-touch Native 3/19/2023 - 7:23 p.m.

Like I said below, it's bread and circuses for the party faithful on both sides. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 7:40 p.m.

Psaki showed video of a focus group of TFG to Dark Brandon voters, they DNGAF about it * Native 3/19/2023 - 7:17 p.m.

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Why white Christian nationalists are in such a panic

UGADawginVA 3/19/2023 - 2:07 p.m.

Along those same lines, Amanda Carpenter at Bulwark says the divide over Ukraine could Native 3/19/2023 - 3:47 p.m.

RE: Along those same lines, Amanda Carpenter at Bulwark says the divide over Ukraine could Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 4:08 p.m.

So much truth in that, and it is readily observed. More should listen to this one.... Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 2:57 p.m.

They are? According to whom? * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 2:09 p.m.

It would be more accurate to say Conservative White christians are in panic. Jean Voljean 3/19/2023 - 5:05 p.m.

Of course, there is a redundancy there. * Phred 3/20/2023 - 8:34 a.m.

I see no use of the word "panic" there. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 5:11 p.m.

Don’t you get the monthly mailer? * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 3:04 p.m.

They won't deliver to PO Boxes. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 3:04 p.m.

grin * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 3:46 p.m.

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TIL: “rectenna” is a word. if there are Gaussian beams it stands to reason that iPhoneHobbes 3/19/2023 - 1:29 p.m.

RE: TIL: “rectenna” is a word. if there are Gaussian beams it stands to reason that Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 2:59 p.m.

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Mike Pence....leaves door open to support Trump...unbelievable...

UGADawginVA 3/19/2023 - 11:36 a.m.

He's a two-faced weasel. * Thunder 3/20/2023 - 4:39 p.m.

RE: Mike Pence....leaves door open to support Trump...unbelievable... Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 10:57 a.m.

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Florida Phoenix - should Florida taxpayers support vouchers for the wealthy's kids? Native 3/19/2023 - 8:53 a.m. Edited by Author on 3/19/2023 - 9:13 a.m.

Edited by Author on 3/19/2023 - 9:13 a.m.

Abbott is clearly fully-committed to fiction. UFNY 3/19/2023 - 1:27 p.m.

Hard to say in Florida. When charter schools first started, they were tested using the same metrics VikingGator 3/19/2023 - 2:47 p.m.

Small sample size is small but my dotter’s best school experiences was at a Title One school iPhoneHobbes 3/20/2023 - 7:17 a.m.

If we had one car manufacturer would quality be better? How about one DurangoGator 3/19/2023 - 8:43 p.m.

We don’t have one source for education, and never have. VikingGator 3/19/2023 - 9:25 p.m.

If their product is inferior wouldn’t parents make other choices? There are so many ways DurangoGator 3/19/2023 - 9:30 p.m.

They have to comparatively tested. Absent that, it takes a while to identify the culprit. If schools VikingGator 3/19/2023 - 10:11 p.m.

From what I find online MiamiGator 3/20/2023 - 6:31 a.m.

Thanks. Good to see you here. I guess my point is that DurangoGator 3/19/2023 - 11:27 p.m.

Providing education is a “promote the general welfare” function of government VikingGator 3/20/2023 - 8:33 a.m.

Anything at all I can read about the favorable MiamiGator 3/20/2023 - 9:32 a.m.

Link? * MiamiGator 3/19/2023 - 6:17 p.m.

Not "truth of best performers", "truth of the ones I worked for and with", as I said. UFNY 3/19/2023 - 3:00 p.m.

I’m not tireless, so I’ll skip over the mischaracterizations. VikingGator 3/19/2023 - 3:19 p.m.

Actually it's art imitating life, it's why AE is winning all the awards * Native 3/19/2023 - 1:43 p.m.

It's not winning awards for accuracy, it's winning awards for entertainment. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 2:08 p.m.

The jokes resonate and they are funny because they are true * Native 3/19/2023 - 2:19 p.m.

So you're using a sitcom as proof? UFNY 3/19/2023 - 2:32 p.m.

Projecting, I said it resonates because it reflects real life * Native 3/19/2023 - 3:36 p.m.

The same way Picasso "reflected" in his portraits. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 3:56 p.m.

I think this hit its target and left a mark Native 3/19/2023 - 4:05 p.m.

I get it. People believe all sorts of fictions. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 4:07 p.m.

Yes, like charter schools compete on a level playing field with public schools * Native 3/19/2023 - 4:17 p.m.

You're right, they don't. UFNY 3/19/2023 - 4:30 p.m.

Hilarous: Education CEO lashes out at Quinta Brunson's AE Charter School episode Native 3/19/2023 - 9:56 p.m.

Being called out for obvious hypocrisy tends to do that. * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 7:07 a.m.

LOL, you can't fix something if you are blind to it * Native 3/20/2023 - 7:57 a.m.

What's there to fix? UFNY 3/20/2023 - 8:04 a.m.

A long commentary with little traction imho….a similar column could be written “Should Peabody Hall 3/19/2023 - 1:10 p.m.

I don't know what that means, but I assure you I am against vouchers for rich realtor's kids as Native 3/19/2023 - 1:21 p.m.

If a “rich” kid attends public school, who pays? * Mississippi Vol 3/19/2023 - 6:42 p.m.

It’s amazing how many people are so opposed to handouts, unless the recipient’s already wealthy trash 3/19/2023 - 2:34 p.m.

RE: It’s amazing how many people are so opposed to handouts, unless the recipient’s already wealthy Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 3:12 p.m.

Or how many people are for handouts, as long as they get to tell the recipient how to spend it. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 2:38 p.m.

So you’d prefer the state give money without constraint or absent an actual program? * trash 3/19/2023 - 5:04 p.m.

Nope. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 5:12 p.m.

Feel free to make up your mind. trash 3/19/2023 - 6:18 p.m.

Nothing lame except your predictable misstatement ad absurdum of others' words. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 6:20 p.m.

I did not write what I just wrote, again. trash 3/19/2023 - 7:39 p.m.

"You don't think what you wrote, you think what I say you think" again. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 7:48 p.m.

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So looks like we are going to get to see if it's a "collective yawn" or not. BBG 3/19/2023 - 8:20 a.m.

I heard an interesting theory on this from a security expert Dawgzilla 3/19/2023 - 7:34 p.m.

But don't listen to me..... * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 7:41 p.m.

Huh? Hobbes 3/20/2023 - 10:55 a.m.

I don't think it's actually gonna be Tuesday, but it's coming. Trae Crowder is great on his calls Native 3/19/2023 - 7:25 p.m.

Don't broaden the point I made. UFNY 3/19/2023 - 10:46 a.m.

ahhh, so you just meant NYC? * BBG 3/19/2023 - 4:57 p.m.

"So they are preparing for violence in NYC if an indictment comes down?" * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 5:03 p.m.

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Heather Cox Richardson ties the Reagan news with how we ended up with TI,DFP Native 3/19/2023 - 8:05 a.m.

Bonus - she references Nixon's rat fornicating, I love a historian that covers all the bases * Native 3/19/2023 - 8:10 a.m.

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A consequence of the strict abortion bans

Thunder 3/19/2023 - 6:30 a.m.

Solution is make the restrictive laws nationwide and then Peabody Hall 3/19/2023 - 1:16 p.m.

Judge not… * trash 3/19/2023 - 6:17 p.m.

Still refusing to pause and consider the consequences of their ideology * Native 3/20/2023 - 7:58 a.m.

Mother's will leave behind orphans. Really? * GR82BaFLG8R 3/19/2023 - 5:54 p.m.

The fetish over babies has forgotten that real, live women give birth to them * Native 3/19/2023 - 6:16 p.m.

They haven't forgotten, they just don't freaking care. * Albert 3/20/2023 - 10:57 a.m.

Same same, women will die or will lose their ability to have future babies, which is tragically Native 3/20/2023 - 11:11 a.m.

Women will die, so no. * Native 3/19/2023 - 2:20 p.m.

I guess we're just supposed to wait for the stork to bring them from the cabbage patch! Did you hear Native 3/19/2023 - 7:58 a.m.

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What did Reagan know and when did he know it? Jean Voljean 3/18/2023 - 9:58 p.m.

Blaming Carter incompetence on Reagan isn’t going to change election results (or history). 😂 * Mississippi Vol 3/19/2023 - 9:23 a.m.

That’s a disappointing but not unexpected take. Jean Voljean 3/19/2023 - 11:18 a.m.

If nothing else, it's nice to see Carter's record and legacy getting the rehab it deserves * Native 3/19/2023 - 3:39 p.m.

This brings up the question: was George H.W. Bush the only Republican who's... Thunder 3/19/2023 - 8:50 p.m.

Now you understand my deep-seated loathing of Ronnie Raygun * Native 3/18/2023 - 10:48 p.m.

Jim Garner was 1000% correct about him. * Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 12:05 p.m.

Somehow I missed it so I looked it up. He's not wrong but at least Arnold is trying to be a good Native 3/19/2023 - 6:45 p.m.

And Nancy too * GR82BaFLG8R 3/19/2023 - 1:23 a.m.

I have a hard time believing he did not know all about it. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 10:31 p.m.

They were all in on it. One of the greatest under-reported scandals in our nation's history Native 3/18/2023 - 10:59 p.m.

Are we saying he sabotaged the helicopters? * 10EC 3/18/2023 - 10:05 p.m.

Attempt at deflection is all you have to say? * Jean Voljean 3/18/2023 - 10:15 p.m.

I was guessing… I don’t subscribe to that liberal ass-wipe rag… * 10EC 3/18/2023 - 10:29 p.m.

I don’t use my computer for that. Seems like there are better ways. * Mudlizard 3/19/2023 - 7:56 a.m.

You have had better work…. * 10EC 3/19/2023 - 8:23 a.m.

What ass-wipe rag do you subscribe to? * VikingGator 3/18/2023 - 11:42 p.m.

Nothing. It makes no economic sense to pay for something you can get for free by another source. 10EC 3/19/2023 - 8:33 a.m.

OK. I pay for 2 subscriptions, and I see lots of stuff that make it worth the money, stuff I don't VikingGator 3/19/2023 - 9:41 a.m.

So you think the WSJ is worth it? * 10EC 3/19/2023 - 9:43 a.m.

I don't pay for it, I only see some of the stuff posted for free. * VikingGator 3/19/2023 - 1:00 p.m.

I don’t but I’m glad others do. Jean Voljean 3/19/2023 - 11:31 a.m.

NPR is my go to for understanding a “not in your face” liberal POV… * 10EC 3/19/2023 - 12:33 p.m.

Make sure to read your local Community Impact IntimiGator 3/19/2023 - 12:07 p.m.

A different liberal ass-wipe rag. * LAGator 3/19/2023 - 2:31 a.m.

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Why are drag queens such a big political topic now? Fox driving it? Winning issue for R’s? * SpacinGator 3/18/2023 - 6:29 p.m.

Addendum…I’ve never gotten the interest in drag. Not entertaining, creative, funny, rebellious. Meh. * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 1:12 p.m.

Have you ever gone to one? I used to occaisonally meet friends at Hamburger Mary's and I would Native 3/19/2023 - 1:25 p.m.

Wife goes there. I definitely could be wrong/uninformed. * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 2:04 p.m.

I think the pandemic and homophobia finally closed the last one, and real shame * Native 3/19/2023 - 2:12 p.m.

Heard it was a fun place. * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 2:50 p.m.

RE: Why are drag queens such a big political topic now? Fox driving it? Winning issue for R’s? Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 11:22 a.m.

Why are drag queens the other option? R’s/Fox are driving this to create a fake wedge issue. * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 11:32 a.m.

What else do they have? Seriously, what are they doing for America? Native 3/19/2023 - 1:41 p.m.

It’s all silliness, but I’m afraid it’ll play in Iowa. * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 2:03 p.m.

It will play with the usual suspects, but 75% of us want them to get actual shit done and do not Native 3/19/2023 - 2:11 p.m.

Concern=falling into the Fox drag trap (& trans talk) is how Orange wins. Be mainstream. * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 2:24 p.m.

I believe Dems should always stand up for their values, that includes protecting all minorities Native 3/19/2023 - 2:27 p.m.

Gotta win. (See Supreme Court now.) Does “we’re the trans/drag party” risk that? * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 2:49 p.m.

In my opinion no, look at the backlash NC experiencrd over their stupid bathroom bans a few years Native 3/19/2023 - 3:41 p.m.

ok…I’m glad you’re feeling confident about it * SpacinGator 3/19/2023 - 3:46 p.m.

What plays in Florida probably isn't going to work in the rest of the country * Native 3/19/2023 - 4:06 p.m.

Did you see this Tampa Bay Times column? It was flagged at DK this morning from USF Native 3/19/2023 - 8:32 a.m.

Distraction. Totally. No. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:01 p.m.

Good political showpiece for both sides. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 6:32 p.m.

both sides? Only one side is making them an issue. * BBG 3/18/2023 - 7:32 p.m.

Yes, to deflect from their failure to produce a budget or any policy besides Culture Wars. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:03 p.m.

Also, it makes casual observers think 'both sides' are the same so why bother or care with politics Native 3/19/2023 - 8:22 a.m.

Yes, both sides. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 8:10 p.m.

One could say if the Rs were not making this an issue then the Ds would have nothbg to respond to. * UGADawginVA 3/18/2023 - 9:58 p.m.

Yep * Mudlizard 3/19/2023 - 7:57 a.m.

That short-sells the situation, but sure. Hence "Ds are forever grateful." * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 6:55 a.m.

you're just wrong on this one, sorry. It's not a stretch to say your both-sidsing of this is a BBG 3/19/2023 - 8:11 a.m.

Ds aren't making political hay out of this? Come on. UFNY 3/19/2023 - 10:43 a.m.

Sometimes, doing what aligns with your values is also the right political thing to do, I call that Native 3/19/2023 - 10:33 p.m.

An argument desperately in search of a point. * Mudlizard 3/19/2023 - 7:42 p.m.

But enough about your reflexive need to clap back with something.....anything. * UFNY 3/19/2023 - 7:49 p.m.

Scan the board from the top down Mudlizard 3/19/2023 - 7:55 p.m.

It's the same ol same ol. UFNY 3/19/2023 - 8:57 p.m.

Sometimes you do bring good discussion to the board. Mudlizard 3/19/2023 - 9:35 p.m.

Frankly, UFNY is the only one who brings a diverse viewpoint to your board on a regular basis. * Mississippi Vol 3/20/2023 - 8:22 a.m.

Don't disagree, but my actual point is missed by you apparently. * Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 8:27 a.m.

No, I understood, but that would entail my stating that arguably all posters bring baggage, and I Mississippi Vol 3/20/2023 - 8:56 a.m.

The point is what I said. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 8:42 a.m.

Yes, you keep stating your point, without considering what so many others have said to you. Mudlizard 3/20/2023 - 9:01 a.m.

There's plenty my fault. This line of "reasoning" you keep throwing out is not one of them. UFNY 3/20/2023 - 9:13 a.m.

When you say "There's plenty my fault", what are you referring to? Could you provide a list? * VikingGator 3/20/2023 - 9:29 a.m.

RE: When you say "There's plenty my fault", what are you referring to? Could you provide a list? UFNY 3/20/2023 - 9:42 a.m.

^^^^^^ Exactly the problem, and I win my side bet on your response. * VikingGator 3/20/2023 - 11:04 a.m.

Yay you, I guess. Sounds like you need a hobby other than paying rapt attention to me. * UFNY 3/20/2023 - 11:08 a.m.

I'm here for you, bud. * VikingGator 3/20/2023 - 11:40 a.m.

It's hard to believe it has to be explained like this when it's so obvs what is going on Native 3/19/2023 - 8:15 a.m.

I think we have a lot of proof here in this little place that the general public isn't going to BBG 3/19/2023 - 8:24 a.m.

Some of the Proud Boys are breaking away, it will take a while and they will just find another Native 3/19/2023 - 8:28 a.m.

Said another way GatorCane 3/19/2023 - 12:06 a.m.

So clearly bothsides * trash 3/19/2023 - 12:53 p.m.

Yes. Good analysis. * SpacinGator 3/18/2023 - 6:39 p.m.

Why do you think that? This is a completely one-sided issue. * Native 3/18/2023 - 10:45 p.m.

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The stage is being set…. UGADawginVA 3/18/2023 - 4:40 p.m.

I am glad I was sitting down when I read that GatorCane 3/18/2023 - 4:44 p.m.

Textbook * Native 3/18/2023 - 4:43 p.m.

And from Bill Krystol ! * VikingGator 3/18/2023 - 11:54 p.m.

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Since it seems to have been missed by some, article about how the New College takeover could cost it Native 3/18/2023 - 4:23 p.m. Edited by Author on 3/18/2023 - 4:38 p.m.

Edited by Author on 3/18/2023 - 4:38 p.m.

Updated with a non-paywall link, it pretty much blows up the idea that wokeness caused it * Native 3/18/2023 - 4:40 p.m.

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What would constitute reasonable gun safety legislation in the eyes of the GOP/gun lobby? GatorCane 3/18/2023 - 4:18 p.m.

They always have some objection or other to doing anything. They won't support anything meaningful. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 5:16 p.m.

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A Clandestine Trip and a Four-Decade Secret: An Untold Story Behind Jimmy Carter’s Defeat

UGADawginVA 3/18/2023 - 4:01 p.m.

One of, if not the, the most corrupt Faustian bargains in our entire history. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:23 p.m.

I mean, it's been long rumored and suspected, but good read * Native 3/18/2023 - 4:03 p.m.

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Squeaker McCarthy and others inc. Chip Roy already choosing TI,DFP over law and order Native 3/18/2023 - 12:20 p.m.

I hope and pray that if this indictment indeed occurs that there isn’t any violence this time GatorCane 3/18/2023 - 4:01 p.m.

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Popehat often hates the same people I do and in the case of Judge Duncan & Stanford iPhoneHobbes 3/18/2023 - 11:21 a.m. Starred by 3 People

Starred by 3 People

Good read but I can’t agree with the “two wrongs make a right” DurangoGator 3/18/2023 - 6:37 p.m.

Re the last sentence, abso-effing-lutely. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 6:40 p.m.

STAR! * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 11:49 a.m.

Bears repeating * Native 3/18/2023 - 11:32 a.m.

RE: Bears repeating Dawgspeare 3/18/2023 - 8:28 p.m.

Thank you both, might be my new go-to for VADwagging it! * Native 3/18/2023 - 10:46 p.m.

RE: Bears repeating iPhoneHobbes 3/18/2023 - 4:28 p.m.

Yes, yes it does. Though it will likely not penetrate. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 11:49 a.m.

Also, making a joke in my head about lots of bears in a line...bears repeating...like deer lowered Native 3/18/2023 - 12:30 p.m.

The excuse-making clearly does. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 11:59 a.m.

One person's 'excuse-making' is another's context and information * Native 3/18/2023 - 12:25 p.m.

"context and information" used to excuse the students' behavior. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 12:37 p.m.

'context and information' used to explain the judge's as well * Native 3/18/2023 - 1:00 p.m.

Again, policing the response to speech but not the speech is incoherent nonsense. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:04 p.m.

"Policing speech"? Stalin and most every other totalitarian says "HELL YEAH!" * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 9:12 p.m.

DeSantis is taking a page out of his book, then. * Thunder 3/18/2023 - 9:25 p.m.

Desantis is the king of incoherent nonsense. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 10:44 p.m.

It's as if he writes for the Murdoch WSJ. * Beachmaster 3/19/2023 - 11:26 a.m.

Hey, it’s your guy there who’s promoting speech policing. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 9:30 p.m.

And thus attempt to excuse the students. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 5:10 p.m.

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The Federalist Society Isn’t Quite Sure About Democracy Anymore

UGADawginVA 3/18/2023 - 10:36 a.m.

Any more? They've always been authoritarian curious at least, some are theocracy friendly. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 11:04 a.m.

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Slate: what are raccoon dogs, the adorable, mischievous creatures that may have started a pandemic Native 3/18/2023 - 9:44 a.m.

Here's The Atlantic article on the raccoon dog DNA link Native 3/18/2023 - 10:07 a.m.

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It's been 20 years this week since the start of the Iraq War - am I the only one that wonders what Native 3/18/2023 - 8:46 a.m.

If SCOTUS not intervened the election would have gone to the House with W becoming POTUS. * iPhoneHobbes 3/18/2023 - 10:25 a.m.

Not if they had just allowed the count to go forward Native 3/18/2023 - 10:27 a.m.

This still pisses me off. Here in Alachua County, I called the Supervisor of Elections office VikingGator 3/18/2023 - 2:42 p.m.

Clearly, I'll never get over it either. I feel like our votes were disinfranchised to this day * Native 3/18/2023 - 2:43 p.m.

To me.. it was karma …. Since the lib media called FL for Gore before the polls closed in the Pub 10EC 3/18/2023 - 10:32 p.m.

The 2003 Iraq War was the worst decision American political leaders have made in modern times.... JimG8R 3/18/2023 - 10:00 a.m.

Vietnam. * Mississippi Vol 3/19/2023 - 9:40 a.m.

Vietnam on line 2 * 10EC 3/18/2023 - 1:06 p.m.

Maybe ever? Dred Scott was worse but that was just the SCOTUS. iPhoneHobbes 3/18/2023 - 10:25 a.m.

Add Kelo, Citizens United, and Dobbs to the dishonor roll. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 12:18 p.m.

Almost forgot Korematsu. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 12:22 p.m.

Perhaps. It's hard to compare history versus our real experience however... JimG8R 3/18/2023 - 11:23 a.m.

I am delighted to see the AUMFs may finally be killed. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 10:54 a.m.

I was a lone voice here during much of that time and took an untold amount of abuse * Native 3/18/2023 - 10:01 a.m.

I believed Colin Powell.... never would again. About 80%of the country took the bait. * BBG 3/18/2023 - 10:05 a.m.

Another serious consequence of the Iraq debacle.... JimG8R 3/18/2023 - 11:36 a.m.

And all the more reasons we can't let the current Republican party take back the White House. Thunder 3/18/2023 - 12:14 p.m.

totally agree on all points * BBG 3/18/2023 - 11:48 a.m.

100% * Native 3/18/2023 - 11:50 a.m.

And Rice was right there with them, spreading the WMD bullshit with the best of them. Untrustworthy * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 10:37 a.m.

Yes, she is as culpable as Cheney, IMO. Another good read from The Atlantic, on the dangers of Native 3/18/2023 - 10:41 a.m.

I think we are where we are today because those liars were never held accountable; in fact, Native 3/18/2023 - 10:13 a.m.

I wonder what Colin knew ..... you know cheney/wolfie/rumsfeld knew BBG 3/18/2023 - 10:16 a.m.

I think they were a “victims” of bias confirmation. iPhoneHobbes 3/18/2023 - 10:31 a.m.

Yup on the enrichment. IMO, I think Colin had doubts/suspicions but let his sense of honor and duty Native 3/18/2023 - 10:21 a.m.

I wouldn't compare Afghanistan with Iraq, but...once we had gotten Bin Laden, we should... Thunder 3/18/2023 - 8:58 a.m.

This is a great read about Saddam and W's Iraq war BBG 3/18/2023 - 9:51 a.m.

Fascinating interview. His book will definitely be on my reading list. * JimG8R 3/18/2023 - 10:39 a.m.

I have always assumed that 9/11 doesn't happen under a Gore administration who wouldn't have ignored Native 3/18/2023 - 9:57 a.m.

I would because I said all along OBL should have been taken out the way we ended up getting him Native 3/18/2023 - 9:31 a.m.

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TW, DFP says on Truth Social he's getting arrested Tuesday! Who here is gonna protest? Native 3/18/2023 - 8:31 a.m.

Gonna pop the cork on a nice Cava I've been saving. Unless it's just another of his myriad lies. * Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:02 a.m.

I will certainly find some way to celebrate but it seems to me TI,IMP incited violence once again Native 3/18/2023 - 9:35 a.m.

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So they are preparing for violence in NYC if an indictment comes down? GR82BaFLG8R 3/17/2023 - 7:20 p.m. Edited by Author on 3/17/2023 - 7:28 p.m.

Edited by Author on 3/17/2023 - 7:28 p.m.

Because the criminal called for it, so I hope a charge for inciting violence is added * Native 3/18/2023 - 8:59 a.m.

I have seen the reports now. I doubt NYC gets crazy, now ATL - possibly. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/18/2023 - 6:32 p.m.

Bragg tells his staff not to be intimidated. but as HCR notes above Ali Alexander seems to be fed up Native 3/19/2023 - 8:24 a.m.

Unlike BLM and the like, there will be a collective yawn. * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 7:24 p.m.

let me know when cops kill a rich powerful white man for selling cigarettes on the street trash 3/18/2023 - 7:11 a.m.

Wombat! * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 9:20 a.m.

Seems to have purposely left the word "peaceful" out of his calls for protest Native 3/18/2023 - 9:38 a.m.

IDGAF what he says. The point of the thread was "will something happen". I bet "no". * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 10:08 a.m.

Perhaps if you saw video of 1/6, you’d get how violent his supporters can be. * Mudlizard 3/18/2023 - 2:57 p.m.

Perhaps if you read the thread, you'd understand the point. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 5:10 p.m.

It’s not really that complex. Kinda think I got it. * Mudlizard 3/18/2023 - 6:35 p.m.

Not if you think your post about the video had anything to do with it. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 6:41 p.m.

OK! * Mudlizard 3/18/2023 - 9:43 p.m.

with a quick poke at BLM as if they were the ones we really need to be concerned about. Wombat trash 3/18/2023 - 10:22 a.m.

Yes it was a stab for sure. I protested at 2 BLM rallies in Seattle and we were peaceful. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/18/2023 - 1:06 p.m.

Here's what I still can't get over about that Native 3/18/2023 - 1:14 p.m.

Not concered in this case, but in others most definitely. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 10:24 a.m.

I recall a similar dismissive attitude leading up to the 2020 election until Jan 5th, so... * trash 3/18/2023 - 12:10 p.m.

Which one tried to violently overturn the results of an election? Not BLM. * Thunder 3/18/2023 - 10:25 a.m.

MAGA. Now answer mine. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 10:25 a.m.

Same answer as yours. * Thunder 3/18/2023 - 10:31 a.m.

So the actual count of riots engaged by both means nothing? Unsurprising. * UFNY 3/18/2023 - 10:59 a.m.

Different people are in charge now, so I hope and expect better preparation Native 3/18/2023 - 10:11 a.m.

Depends on several variables IMO... in NYC, no way. BBG 3/18/2023 - 10:20 a.m.

He has a rally scheduled in Texas for next weekend, in Waco, on the 30th Anniversary of the BD raid * Native 3/18/2023 - 10:22 a.m.

Does seizing the children of a white family after a traffic stop by the TN Highway patrol count? Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:08 a.m.

It's the casual anti-Semitism, TFG HAD to work in a Soros reference in his Truth Social confession Native 3/18/2023 - 8:52 a.m.

MAGA is known for being calm, cool, and collected. * GatorCane 3/17/2023 - 9:28 p.m.

January 6 was an Antifa myth. * Jean Voljean 3/17/2023 - 10:08 p.m.

Your post is a right wing bot malfunction GatorCane 3/17/2023 - 10:43 p.m.

Some fear Trump will set up a rally to be waiting as he leaves Hogan upon his release free publicity GR82BaFLG8R 3/17/2023 - 7:38 p.m.

That's why he knows Tuesday is the day, all this has to be coordinated with his SS staff * Native 3/18/2023 - 1:16 p.m.

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Fascinating. InspectorVol 3/17/2023 - 5:06 p.m.

Interesting how he was prepared with slides for that woman’s questions. Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 6:36 p.m.

I find Ehrman to be insufferable but I don’t think this guy accurately reflects Ehrman says. iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 8:06 p.m.

I agree. Either that or she is a brilliant student. * DurangoGator 3/17/2023 - 7:07 p.m.

The King James Version is used most and it is just what it says it is a "version". One if many. GR82BaFLG8R 3/17/2023 - 6:59 p.m.

RE: Interesting how he was prepared with slides for that woman’s questions. Beachmaster 3/17/2023 - 6:48 p.m.

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Wanna know why New College is getting force-fed change? UFNY 3/17/2023 - 4:22 p.m. Starred by 3 People

Starred by 3 People

BTW, this has nothing to do with New College, so smear by association at the very least Native 3/18/2023 - 9:50 a.m.

It does, though, for the reasons I stated. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 10:09 a.m.

They don't want to see that. 3rdWardGator 3/18/2023 - 10:13 a.m.

There is nothing to see, Pudding Ron wanted a target, just like there was no reason for removing Native 3/18/2023 - 10:16 a.m.

So conservatives decided they wanted some of that for themselves? * trash 3/17/2023 - 5:38 p.m.

I've been following this all week, while clearly no one wrapped themselves in glory in this one, it Native 3/18/2023 - 9:07 a.m.

Popehat, as he usually does, absolutely nails it in this essay. Everyone is wrong, some more so. Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:50 a.m.

I mean, on one side you have students behaving badly and an actual judge on the other but Native 3/18/2023 - 9:53 a.m.

Apparently so. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 5:40 p.m.

Woke students and academics vs a governor & state legislature. I can see how you'd confuse trash 3/18/2023 - 9:25 a.m.

Not confused at all. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 9:32 a.m.

Recall back to my earlier posts on these subjects...(two years ago) 3rdWardGator 3/18/2023 - 10:16 a.m.

If anything, these kind of posts are being discredited more and more in real time Native 3/18/2023 - 10:40 a.m.

It's POO FLINGIN' TIME! UFNY 3/18/2023 - 11:01 a.m.

I already acknowedged that no one looks good in the Stanford fracas - how about you? * Native 3/18/2023 - 11:04 a.m.

From my view, Duncan's background is irrelevant. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 11:20 a.m.

I disagree, in this situation his background is everything, as was the fact that he went there Native 3/18/2023 - 12:21 p.m.

Right, we disagree and there are no "facts" involved. UFNY 3/18/2023 - 5:16 p.m.

Pointing to opinions on Twitter or in the Atlantic does not discredit my posts. 3rdWardGator 3/18/2023 - 10:53 a.m.

That column has actual data in it which you choose to ignore Native 3/18/2023 - 10:59 a.m.

Sorry, Wikipedia (Gays against Groomers comment) is not data. * 3rdWardGator 3/18/2023 - 11:11 a.m.

I didn't say THAT was data and this is the kind of rhetorical nonsense that impresses no one. Since Native 3/18/2023 - 11:31 a.m.

Zero accountability * 3rdWardGator 3/18/2023 - 12:45 a.m.

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Optimism and health... yt 3/17/2023 - 3:11 p.m. Edited by Author on 3/17/2023 - 3:29 p.m.

Edited by Author on 3/17/2023 - 3:29 p.m.

RE: Optimism and health... Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 4:16 p.m.

yes. * InspectorVol 3/17/2023 - 5:13 p.m.

RE: Optimism and health... yt 3/17/2023 - 4:51 p.m.

RE: Optimism and health... UFNY 3/17/2023 - 4:23 p.m.

RE: Optimism and health... Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 4:29 p.m.

RE: Optimism and health... UFNY 3/17/2023 - 5:11 p.m.

Your use of the word “fate” caused me to think of one of my favorite quotes from Carl Jung: dudehead 3/18/2023 - 6:58 a.m.

RE: Optimism and health... iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 4:06 p.m.

Totally agree! Should be main board poast rather than lounge imho * Peabody Hall 3/17/2023 - 3:24 p.m.

I edited it to make it suitable for the lounge. * yt 3/17/2023 - 3:30 p.m.

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Whether you agree with him or not . . . I vote more Viking. I'm 1/4 Swede so maybe I'm biased. Wayne 3/17/2023 - 2:04 p.m. A HOF Post

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<----- Big Viking fan here as well * Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 2:25 p.m.

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Who had Putin getting warrants issued for his arrest before Drumpf did?

iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 12:44 p.m.

The timing makes me think it was also to send a message to Xi. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/17/2023 - 4:03 p.m.

He won't listen, as he needs a follow-up distraction from the situation at home. The House of Saud Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 11:57 a.m.

Agreed. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/19/2023 - 5:59 p.m.

Wow. * 3rdWardGator 3/17/2023 - 2:10 p.m.

I am sure Donald Trump for one, but can't be certain * GatorCane 3/17/2023 - 1:27 p.m.

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Joe wants more power. Not so fast BUCKO!: Mississippi Vol 3/17/2023 - 12:20 p.m.

RE: Joe wants more power. Not so fast BUCKO!: Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 10:51 a.m.

So you want executive power to be checked? Excellent. Thunder 3/18/2023 - 8:23 a.m.

I’m not a resident of Florida * Mississippi Vol 3/18/2023 - 9:08 a.m.

Then apply that to any Republican governor. * Thunder 3/18/2023 - 9:19 a.m.

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A thoughtful Op-Ed (IMO) on the drive to enact anti-transgender legislation in GA GatorCane 3/17/2023 - 11:51 a.m.

The spin in that post is ….impressive. It could be labeled an anti-abuse bill. 10EC 3/17/2023 - 12:10 p.m.

Here is a link for you. Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 12:29 p.m.

To me…. You are an adult? Do whatever gets you off. But surgery and drugs. That isn’t appropriate 10EC 3/17/2023 - 12:58 p.m.

HEAR! HEAR! * VOLMAN 3/18/2023 - 9:47 a.m.

There are bigger fish, but this was thrust upon us, we didn’t ask for it to be a topic. * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 1:53 p.m.

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Kareem on Women's History Month, an excellent primer on misogyny trash 3/17/2023 - 9:31 a.m.

Indeed a perceptive, thoughtful, and well grounded essay. Which will be ignored by those who need Beachmaster 3/17/2023 - 6:34 p.m.

Same as it ever was. Kareem is a mensch and what being an ally looks like! * Native 3/18/2023 - 9:36 a.m.

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These 2 made me laugh J.M. 3/17/2023 - 6:31 a.m. A HOF Post

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I just wonder where this sentiment was when GM was on the rocks. * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 8:52 a.m.

RE: I just wonder where this sentiment was when GM was on the rocks. J.M. 3/17/2023 - 10:00 a.m.

Right, it's the opposite viewpoint, sympathetic to the company. * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 10:10 a.m.

RE: Right, it's the opposite viewpoint, sympathetic to the company. J.M. 3/17/2023 - 10:34 a.m.

Was there a bailout here? * BurrGator 3/17/2023 - 11:03 a.m.

Cushions the blow? Saves? Stops disaster? That's what I mean. * J.M. 3/17/2023 - 11:06 a.m.

IMO it's completely different conversation wrt banks as the literal root of our economy. * Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 9:51 a.m.

Also, SVB filed for Chapter 11 today and the depositors were not harmed. Since no one asked, the BurrGator 3/17/2023 - 10:13 a.m.

I read “The House of Morgan” last summer. I was surprised how often DurangoGator 3/17/2023 - 10:32 a.m.

Not sure what "root" entails, but.... UFNY 3/17/2023 - 9:53 a.m.

My point is people (the general public) losing faith in the banking system Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 10:09 a.m.

The cartoons originally posted weren't about the importance of banking. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 10:12 a.m.

I'd say both of you are correct. Perception does matter. BurrGator 3/17/2023 - 11:02 a.m.

The gubmint needs to do a much better job of explaining this is not a bailout….. Dawgzilla 3/17/2023 - 12:09 p.m.

I'm good with all that, just want to make sure the normal laws of capitalism apply for once Native 3/18/2023 - 10:00 a.m.

Well said * BurrGator 3/17/2023 - 3:24 p.m.

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“We Are ‘Against Coercively Using Power of the State’ “ to punish:

iPhoneHobbes 3/16/2023 - 5:10 p.m.

I hope that opposition extends to crap like this bill being fast-tracked by a compliant legislature. Beachmaster 3/17/2023 - 8:16 a.m.

I've posted links about this before, all this are losers for taxpayers but it won't stop them * Native 3/18/2023 - 9:46 a.m.

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“Thank you sister Rosa. You were the spark. That started our freedom movement”

iPhoneHobbes 3/16/2023 - 5:01 p.m.

I guess we can also look at lynching. "He was strung up on a tree because of the way he looked". * Phred 3/17/2023 - 8:56 a.m.

Next up - Rosa Parks was white and fought oppression from African Americans. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/17/2023 - 7:14 p.m.

I wouldn't put it past them Native 3/18/2023 - 8:57 a.m.

It can't be truthfully taught because it doesn't highlight the oppression of Xtians and white men. Beachmaster 3/18/2023 - 9:04 a.m.

Evil Plans! * Native 3/18/2023 - 9:32 a.m.

But if anybody feels guilt about it it becomes illegal; safest course of action becomes not teach it * Dawgspeare 3/17/2023 - 10:49 a.m.

Which is the intent of the vague, vacuous language in the bills which became law. * Beachmaster 3/17/2023 - 11:28 a.m.

Soooo, this was on the publisher and not State of Florida according to this link 10EC 3/16/2023 - 6:26 p.m.

RE: Soooo, this was on the publisher and not State of Florida according to this link iPhoneHobbes 3/16/2023 - 10:46 p.m.

Yep. It's hilarious how a process that's been going on for 50 years..... UFNY 3/16/2023 - 7:16 p.m.

and they did it because.... * trash 3/16/2023 - 6:32 p.m.

RE: and they did it because.... Dawgspeare 3/16/2023 - 6:48 p.m.

Did you read the end? Florida rejected it. * 10EC 3/16/2023 - 6:33 p.m.

Studies Weekly cited Florida’s new law as its reason for changing the lesson lurch 3/16/2023 - 6:37 p.m.

Or, the company made a really dumb decision. 10EC 3/16/2023 - 6:41 p.m.

More like the company can’t kind mindread given DeSantis’ vague, dumb, white victimhood dictums. * Jean Voljean 3/16/2023 - 9:31 p.m.

As I am learning more about DeSantis, can you share these white victimhood dictums? 10EC 3/17/2023 - 9:03 a.m.

They have been shared all along, but probably ignored because of who was posting them * trash 3/17/2023 - 9:24 a.m.

Very true * Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 10:06 a.m.

Ignored by whom? * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 10:07 a.m.

How would I know, lol. By those who don't read them! * Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 10:39 a.m.

You said “Very True”…What was very true? It was shared? It was ignored? Or both? 10EC 3/17/2023 - 10:48 a.m.

Ah, OK. I was agreeing that they were likely ignored, and ignored based on who posted them Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 10:54 a.m.

Ok, thanks… that helps * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 10:55 a.m.

And yet your original question went unanswered. * BurrGator 3/17/2023 - 12:02 p.m.

I thought he did…. Ignored by anyone who doesn’t follow every bad thing said about 10EC 3/17/2023 - 12:07 p.m.

80 books made Julie Marshall and Paul Marcucci victims Hobbes 3/17/2023 - 9:14 a.m.

So, are you disputing the claim in the story that 10EC 3/17/2023 - 9:35 a.m.

RE: So, are you disputing the claim in the story that Hobbes 3/17/2023 - 9:42 a.m.

I'm surprised no reporter took the list and then looked at the books to counter the claim 10EC 3/17/2023 - 9:44 a.m.

TCPalm and Channel 12. Hobbes 3/17/2023 - 9:51 a.m.

That’s a good point. Who gets to rule on this? Whose opinion ultimately counts? 10EC 3/17/2023 - 10:05 a.m.

Pathetic, but not unexpected from Florida Man's censors. * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 5:44 p.m.

I view history like the Bible. Do not add to or take away from. * Inspector Vol 3/16/2023 - 5:05 p.m.

Do you adhere to the King James Version? GR82BaFLG8R 3/17/2023 - 6:52 p.m.

There is no such thing as an original Bible. Verbal history only for centuries. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/16/2023 - 7:07 p.m.

Well, there were those tablets… * Dawgzilla 3/17/2023 - 12:16 p.m.

Not really. A good example is the Gospel of Luke. Mark was written around 55 AD DurangoGator 3/16/2023 - 8:49 p.m.

55 CE would be among the earliest datings. More like 70 CE is the norm and that is several decades Jean Voljean 3/16/2023 - 9:40 p.m.

I’m not sure 15 years is a huge difference but my point was that quite DurangoGator 3/16/2023 - 11:15 p.m.

My understanding is that pretty much only Paul's letters Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 8:13 a.m.

RE: My understanding is that pretty much only Paul's letters Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 10:19 a.m.

ICBW, but didn't you say at one point that Luke wrote his book and Acts? * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 9:41 a.m.

The wikipedia pages on all this are pretty well sourced and really interesting..... JimG8R 3/17/2023 - 12:36 p.m.

Wikipedia is a fine source of info for the general public * Native 3/18/2023 - 10:42 a.m.

I am not sure if I know what I am talking about but I thought Matthew, Mark & Luke shared a common iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 12:49 p.m.

yeah those pages talk about that * JimG8R 3/17/2023 - 12:59 p.m.

Mark is the first, Matthew and Luke borrow from Mark and "Q," Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 12:56 p.m.

The same author wrote both, but we don't know who he was * Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 9:44 a.m.

Isn't that disputed? * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 9:44 a.m.

By tradition, yes. By scholarship, not really. * Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 9:47 a.m.

So all scholars agree? * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 10:02 a.m.

And what scholars? Believers? Non-believers? * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 11:44 a.m.

That's a good question with a nuanced answer Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 1:07 p.m.

RE: That's a good question with a nuanced answer yt 3/17/2023 - 3:47 p.m.

RE: That's a good question with a nuanced answer Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 4:04 p.m.

RE: That's a good question with a nuanced answer yt 3/17/2023 - 5:00 p.m.

RE: That's a good question with a nuanced answer yt 3/17/2023 - 4:48 p.m.

Do you remember the library at Cedar Springs? 10EC 3/17/2023 - 1:14 p.m.

It really is fascinating-- and that's part of the process that schismed the church so many times Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 1:16 p.m.

This needs to be over a beer next time I am in Maryville, but… 10EC 3/17/2023 - 1:28 p.m.

That's a great example of a middle ground WRT historicity Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 2:34 p.m.

Also I'll take you up on that beer Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 2:36 p.m.

Interesting… $50/beer? That place is insanely priced for stays. 10EC 3/17/2023 - 2:42 p.m.

No, the tasting room is near downtown and priced like any other craft place Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 2:45 p.m.

I’m buying then. Now… how do I escape my family???? Maybe some trout fishing in my future… * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 2:57 p.m.

RE: I’m buying then. Now… how do I escape my family???? Maybe some trout fishing in my future… Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 3:38 p.m.

Why should that matter?.... JimG8R 3/17/2023 - 12:59 p.m.

Bias. * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 1:00 p.m.

Meh. That's not how real academic research works. * JimG8R 3/17/2023 - 1:00 p.m.

Bias is the evil of all historical research. 10EC 3/17/2023 - 1:09 p.m.

Meh. Perhaps.... JimG8R 3/17/2023 - 2:15 p.m.

You flatter me. Rank amateur in Biblical history/textual analysis. Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 4:12 p.m.

I didn’t research what I wrote last night, just stuff I remembered. I do DurangoGator 3/17/2023 - 8:50 a.m.

Biblical literalism bothers me, because I think it misses the point Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 9:43 a.m.

Not necessarily. * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 9:56 a.m.

Right, for sure-- my viewpoint only. * Clockwork Orange 3/17/2023 - 9:56 a.m.

And people talk about ufny just wanting to be contrary. * Inspector Vol 3/16/2023 - 9:23 p.m.

RE: And people talk about ufny just wanting to be contrary. iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 1:35 p.m.

Address the post, not UFNY. ;-) * Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 12:56 p.m.

Everyone does it, it just depends on the topic and team as to whether or not it's OK. * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 7:09 a.m.

Yes, nearly every Lounge denizen does it to some limited extent, consciously or not. VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 9:05 a.m.

Boy howdy. This thread derailed from the OP because contrary had to served instead of agreement. * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 9:27 a.m.

Didn't "And people talk about ufny just wanting to be contrary" provide the offramp? * VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 9:56 a.m.

Nope , the response to my first post is where it derailed because of contrarianism. * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 10:46 a.m.

You perceived it as contrarianism....that doesn't mean others did. * Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 12:57 p.m.

Did it divert from the original topic which I addressed? * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 1:58 p.m.

You just nailed the core issue with "contrarian". * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 1:13 p.m.

RE: You just nailed the core issue with "contrarian". iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 4:05 p.m.

RE: You just nailed the core issue with "contrarian". UFNY 3/17/2023 - 4:23 p.m.

RE: You just nailed the core issue with "contrarian". iPhoneHobbes 3/17/2023 - 4:53 p.m.

No, the core for me, as we have discussed, is a body of work Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 1:36 p.m.

I'm going to drop this right here, see if it sounds like anyone you know Native 3/18/2023 - 10:44 a.m.

And that knee jerk is exactly what happened and I can prove it. * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 2:54 p.m.

RE: And that knee jerk is exactly what happened and I can prove it. Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 3:00 p.m.

Great word parsing but its just all about who it is before it matters. GO TEAM! * Inspector Vol 3/17/2023 - 3:45 p.m.

I call it clarifying, you call it parsing. * Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 4:00 p.m.

Regardless of calling it parsing or clarifying the result is the same. * InspectorVol 3/17/2023 - 5:08 p.m.

It's "daily" now? UFNY 3/17/2023 - 3:06 p.m.

RE: It's "daily" now? Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 3:17 p.m.

That doesn't hold logically. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 1:40 p.m.

The problem is that the term "defining characteristic" is arbitrary. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 9:17 a.m.

I would make a distinction between VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 9:47 a.m.

And I would say that distiniction depends heavily on one's viewpoint re politics, etc. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 9:58 a.m.

Ouch (not really). Maybe cancer was the wrong word. Insert “festering sore” if you prefer. VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 11:03 a.m.

"Trying to stay clear of comments about specific posters"? UFNY 3/17/2023 - 11:11 a.m.

You and I have had this discussion numerous times, on and off the board. Mudlizard 3/17/2023 - 1:00 p.m.

Disagreement is not "shield". UFNY 3/17/2023 - 1:05 p.m.

I mean everything in the nicest way. VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 12:06 p.m.

I appreciate your perspective, I do not agree with your conclusions. * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 12:18 p.m.

You forgot “Bless your heart” * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 12:17 p.m.

I'm going to adopt exactly that condescending phrase if I ever get a lobotomy. * VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 12:32 p.m.

I really have a better plan 10EC 3/17/2023 - 1:04 p.m.

It's in my family too, only a few of us will get it, but we all think about it. Some years ago VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 1:21 p.m.

Oooh… I like that one. 10EC 3/17/2023 - 1:31 p.m.

Your "better plan" post, as a thread starter, might have generated some good stuff. * VikingGator 3/17/2023 - 1:33 p.m.

I hear ya. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 1:06 p.m.

Correct, and a committee cherry picked which parts to include and which to leave out. * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 7:11 p.m.

RE: “Thank you sister Rosa. You were the spark. That started our freedom movement” iPhoneHobbes 3/16/2023 - 5:02 p.m.

BuT tHeY wERe HaPpY iN tHosE CaMpS. * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 5:48 p.m.

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Florida lost a strong Democrat with the death of Peabody Hall 3/16/2023 - 4:27 p.m.

^^^For those that don't know, Sam was married to Betty Castor and was Cathy and Kelly's step-dad Native 3/18/2023 - 12:32 p.m.

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“US banking system sound but not all deposits guaranteed, Yellen says“ Mississippi Vol 3/16/2023 - 3:33 p.m.

Based on what I've seen, the SIVB depositors likely weren't at risk despite BurrGator 3/16/2023 - 4:25 p.m.

unless you are rich venture capitalist or tech entrepreneur then all your deposits guaranteed! * JimG8R 3/16/2023 - 4:09 p.m.

It's time to resurrect and update Glass Stegall * dudehead 3/16/2023 - 4:04 p.m.

How would that have prevented the SVB meltdown? Diversification of income streams DurangoGator 3/16/2023 - 6:37 p.m.

Preach it! * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 5:33 p.m.

lol UFNY 3/16/2023 - 4:00 p.m.

Speaking of LOL Reich does it again. Here is a quote from him on SVB DurangoGator 3/16/2023 - 6:40 p.m.

Sometimes Robert Reich has a point. But that’s not the way to bet iPhoneHobbes 3/16/2023 - 10:48 p.m.

I swear he writes his columns based on internet memes. * UFNY 3/16/2023 - 7:02 p.m.

He wrote an op-Ed on the need to break up big banks citing JP Morgan DurangoGator 3/16/2023 - 7:19 p.m.

I don't know about you, but I am grateful for what they are doing to divert a bigger disaster. * Mudlizard 3/16/2023 - 4:11 p.m.

Well, an argument can be had that policy to mitigate the Great Recession engendered the latest Mississippi Vol 3/16/2023 - 8:00 p.m.

Hence "a trillion here, a trillion there", etc. UFNY 3/16/2023 - 4:12 p.m.

A massive failure in our banking system and all that goes with it has costs as well. * Mudlizard 3/16/2023 - 4:17 p.m.

As does the govt swooping in to save us all from any kind of loss or pain.... UFNY 3/16/2023 - 4:24 p.m.

The big banks, not the government, stepped in and made a $30B deposit at BurrGator 3/16/2023 - 4:38 p.m.

I don't know their balance sheets well enough to say. UFNY 3/16/2023 - 4:42 p.m.

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"The greatest threat to Western civilization today is not Russia. It's probably more than anything e UGADawginVA 3/16/2023 - 3:14 p.m.

The greatest threat to the US at the moment is the Kremlin wing of the GOP * Phred 3/16/2023 - 4:51 p.m.

He's actually right here: It's probably more than anything else ourselves. * UFNY 3/16/2023 - 3:15 p.m.

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It’s only money: “MQ-9 Reaper: All about the US drone that crashed into the Black Sea”: Mississippi Vol 3/16/2023 - 9:51 a.m. Edited by Author on 3/16/2023 - 9:52 a.m.

Edited by Author on 3/16/2023 - 9:52 a.m.

RE: It’s only money: “MQ-9 Reaper: All about the US drone that crashed into the Black Sea”: VOLMAN 3/16/2023 - 10:07 a.m.

Should not be a next time. * Mississippi Vol 3/16/2023 - 3:28 p.m.

This was "the next time"... Iran already downed one. * g8rdome 3/16/2023 - 8:28 p.m.

gonna need a pretty big intake…66’ wide…36’ long…weighs 4,900 lbs * Leroy 3/16/2023 - 2:33 p.m.

yeah, that'd be real smart * BBG 3/16/2023 - 1:21 p.m.

And equally feasible. Jean Voljean 3/16/2023 - 5:56 p.m.

RE: It’s only money: “MQ-9 Reaper: All about the US drone that crashed into the Black Sea”: WAR DAMN EAGLE 3/16/2023 - 12:01 p.m.

I have my doubts that the rusky fighter used his aircraft to strike the prop. CONSIGLIEREG8R 3/16/2023 - 10:51 a.m.

Agree, seriously doubt he was trying to actually hit it. * trash 3/16/2023 - 12:24 p.m.

Looked like he was hotdogging and misjudged its speed, but no question he did hit & bend the prop. * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 12:53 p.m.

Rooskies have a history of engaging in reckless risky behavior... g8rdome 3/16/2023 - 8:30 p.m.

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Gov. DeSantis ate pudding with his fingers? GatorCane 3/16/2023 - 9:50 a.m.

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Pres. Trump pressured a 3rd GA official to intervene on his behalf in the election GatorCane 3/16/2023 - 9:40 a.m.

I wish Willis would hurry the f up and indict his criminal ass. * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 10:27 a.m.

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But, does it make my butt look big? 🥺 Mississippi Vol 3/16/2023 - 7:34 a.m.

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Introducing Donald Trump and the J6 choir! (#1 on ITunes)

UGADawginVA 3/15/2023 - 7:26 p.m.

You storm ONE Capital building during a joint session to reverse an election and everybody FTFO * Dawgspeare 3/17/2023 - 8:42 a.m.

And it's as creepy as it sounds... UGADawginVA 3/15/2023 - 7:28 p.m.

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TV Mature 10EC 3/15/2023 - 7:01 p.m.

1923 is terrible, which is a shame, because 1883 was excellent DGator 3/16/2023 - 9:35 a.m.

Yellowstone is just The Sopranos on a ranch . . . basically a mob show. * Wayne 3/16/2023 - 2:43 p.m.

RE: Yellowstone is just The Sopranos on a ranch . . . basically a mob show. iPhoneHobbes 3/16/2023 - 10:49 p.m.

And the Old Man is Walter White on a ranch . . . does it all for his family. Yeah boy. * Wayne 3/16/2023 - 2:48 p.m.

At least the scenery is better than NJ * 10EC 3/16/2023 - 2:51 p.m.

Especially Beth. * UFNY 3/16/2023 - 3:11 p.m.

Monica * Wayne 3/17/2023 - 10:19 a.m.

Beautiful, but annoying. UFNY 3/17/2023 - 10:22 a.m.

I find the whole thing totally implausible. I mean transporters and warp drives Wayne 3/17/2023 - 1:53 p.m.

It's a soap opera, "COME ON!" is part of the fun. * UFNY 3/17/2023 - 2:52 p.m.

Ok,Ok,Ok….. but you gotta like Jimmy….. who doesn’t pull for the beaten dog. * 10EC 3/17/2023 - 2:47 p.m.

Agree it is going slow, but I think it is building to a great story. * 10EC 3/16/2023 - 9:38 a.m.

A lot of it is laziness. Time fillers. Don't have to write dialogue for bumping nasties. * Phred 3/16/2023 - 9:25 a.m.

RE: TV Mature Flea 3/15/2023 - 9:25 p.m.

RE: TV Mature BurrGator 3/15/2023 - 10:29 p.m.

Exactly. GoT you know what you are going to get. * 10EC 3/15/2023 - 10:06 p.m.

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You people saying DeSantis is like a Central American dictator iPhoneHobbes 3/15/2023 - 5:43 p.m.

I think he aspires to be Victor of Turkey. * GR82BaFLG8R 3/15/2023 - 7:21 p.m.

Well, he’s nailed the turkey part. * Mudlizard 3/16/2023 - 5:35 a.m.

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Wanna know who Bubbie is talking to in heaven? UFNY 3/15/2023 - 4:35 p.m.

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Black Professor stuck in antiracist Hell.... 3rdWardGator 3/15/2023 - 3:42 p.m. Starred by 3 People

Starred by 3 People

The road to hell is paved with good intentions. BurrGator 3/16/2023 - 9:54 a.m.

And here are some of the casualties... 3rdWardGator 3/16/2023 - 2:19 p.m.

That some people can’t or won’t accept the damage this stuff is causing is not good. It’s just going Inspector Vol 3/16/2023 - 3:03 p.m.

My key takeaway quote bahmo 3/16/2023 - 1:41 a.m.

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Freshman/SPRING break in Destin…. Minor in Possession… 10EC 3/15/2023 - 1:30 p.m.

Some of those beach communities print fine money during spring break Dawgspeare 3/16/2023 - 2:43 p.m.

We didn't have photo driver's licenses. Fake IDs easy to get. Hung out in beer joints @ 16 * Phred 3/16/2023 - 8:43 a.m.

Drinking age should be 18 * iPhoneHobbes 3/15/2023 - 5:36 p.m.

Agree, but I understand the need. We were God Awful as kids. It has not changed. 10EC 3/15/2023 - 6:53 p.m.

I got hit in the head with a catamaran at spring break when I was at Auburn Hobbes 3/15/2023 - 7:13 p.m.

That sounds more like the House Party weekend * aubie in bham 3/16/2023 - 11:42 a.m.

You got hit in the head with a #badword#ing boat? * GatorCane 3/15/2023 - 9:39 p.m.

RE: You got hit in the head with a #badword#ing boat? Hobbes 3/16/2023 - 7:29 a.m.

This explains so much. * Albert 3/16/2023 - 8:13 a.m.

And proves that IPhone Hobbes can really pilot a boat. * Jean Voljean 3/16/2023 - 9:29 a.m.

MML * GatorCane 3/16/2023 - 9:50 a.m.

RE: Freshman/SPRING break in Destin…. Minor in Possession… CONSIGLIEREG8R 3/15/2023 - 5:21 p.m.

Of what? * Mudlizard 3/15/2023 - 2:02 p.m.

A cooler of unopened beer. * 10EC 3/15/2023 - 4:14 p.m.

I’m guessing it won’t be a big deal as far as legal trouble IntimiGator 3/15/2023 - 4:41 p.m.

No, they didn’t. Thanks * 10EC 3/15/2023 - 4:43 p.m.

She deserves a good scare. That's about it. * 3rdWardGator 3/15/2023 - 4:32 p.m.

And how much of it. 3rdWardGator 3/15/2023 - 3:39 p.m.

Hell yeah...shut it down. if they can't go to a drag show...this is far worse. aubie in bham 3/15/2023 - 1:46 p.m.

Ok, not following. FTR I have not said a thing about the drag show stuff. * 10EC 3/15/2023 - 4:16 p.m.

it was a "if children are to be protected always" then whoever got the beer for them and sold it to aubie in bham 3/15/2023 - 4:27 p.m.

Those laws get enforced on occasion. * Inspector Vol 3/15/2023 - 5:10 p.m.

The Hyatt Regency Miami is holding on Line 1 * aubie in bham 3/15/2023 - 11:53 p.m.

I’m ok with popping establishments that sell to minors. Not jail, but hefty fines. * Inspector Vol 3/16/2023 - 9:20 a.m.

That’s the insane, stupid kid part. He was with a 21 y/o senior (big brother) but he was in the 10EC 3/15/2023 - 4:44 p.m.

RE: That’s the insane, stupid kid part. He was with a 21 y/o senior (big brother) but he was in the aubie in bham 3/16/2023 - 12:51 p.m.

He just gained some life experience lol. * Inspector Vol 3/15/2023 - 5:14 p.m.

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So exactly....what IS wokeness???

UGADawginVA 3/15/2023 - 12:32 p.m.

Just another bugbear for the right-wing. Like CRT, drag shows, bathrooms, Hunter Biden, tin foil * Phred 3/16/2023 - 4:53 p.m.

What is it according to you? * BurrGator 3/16/2023 - 1:49 p.m.

I suspect almost all of the most vocal anti-woke warriors would similarly struggle GatorCane 3/15/2023 - 1:07 p.m.

RE: I suspect almost all of the most vocal anti-woke warriors would similarly struggle Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 3:23 p.m.

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How does a jet hit a propeller on a drone without crashing the jet too? CONSIGLIEREG8R 3/15/2023 - 11:42 a.m.

I wonder if our drones have flares. 10EC 3/15/2023 - 7:07 p.m.

RE: I wonder if our drones have flair Hobbes 3/16/2023 - 7:30 a.m.

RE: I wonder if our drones have flair Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 8:54 a.m.

OK? That was an oddly placed post. * 10EC 3/16/2023 - 9:05 a.m.

Nice… :) * 10EC 3/16/2023 - 8:27 a.m.

Because unless he took off a large part of the wing, or tail or the cockpit the airplane can probabl trash 3/15/2023 - 5:50 p.m.

Tip of a wing hits the prop? * Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 12:01 p.m.

So you're saying, "just the tip"? * GatorCane 3/15/2023 - 1:06 p.m.

Lordy, there are tapes. Remains to be seen if they'll be declassified, but we have it on video. * Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 3:30 p.m.

And part of the tapes were declassified. Widely available for viewing. * Beachmaster 3/16/2023 - 8:52 a.m.

When just the tip is broken off that can cause MAJOR performance issues * CONSIGLIEREG8R 3/15/2023 - 1:12 p.m.

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Tucker... Vladimir ... Vlidimir... Tucker UGADawginVA 3/15/2023 - 11:36 a.m. Edited by Author on 3/15/2023 - 11:37 a.m.

Edited by Author on 3/15/2023 - 11:37 a.m.

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10:54 AM--scroll down. But it bears repeating. :) * Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 11:41 a.m.

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Hey, ya never know. UFNY 3/15/2023 - 10:13 a.m.

grifters gonna grift * trash 3/15/2023 - 10:46 a.m.

This move allows him to accept campaign donations and to cover legal bills. * UGADawginVA 3/15/2023 - 11:52 a.m.

Yep, it's all about keeping the grift going. * Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 12:03 p.m.

Yep. And chutzpah like I've never seen before. * UFNY 3/15/2023 - 10:56 a.m.

and he's not even Jewish. * BBG 3/15/2023 - 12:06 p.m.

One thing I’ll give Rep. Santos (R-Fantasy Land) GatorCane 3/15/2023 - 1:01 p.m.

Jew-ISH. * UFNY 3/15/2023 - 12:09 p.m.

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GEICO doesn't protect you from mayhem, like HPV Hobbes 3/15/2023 - 8:48 a.m.

I’ve always wondered why a plaintiff is able to demand disclosure DurangoGator 3/15/2023 - 10:25 a.m.

RE: I’ve always wondered why a plaintiff is able to demand disclosure iPhoneHobbes 3/15/2023 - 11:34 a.m.

So the lizard doesn't cover his lizard. Seems right to me. How do you prove which time Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 8:55 a.m.

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Looks like the FL Lt Gov uses the same playbook as Ron... UGADawginVA 3/15/2023 - 8:05 a.m.

I guess the courage to be free doesn't extend to the free press. How typical of Florida Man's admin * Beachmaster 3/15/2023 - 9:04 a.m.

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