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Warning....I like to think I am a fairly patient and tolerant person Mudlizard 7/6/2017 - 7:17 a.m.
Mud, Please pin this link. InvestiGator 6/5/2017 - 10:36 p.m.
New Lounge Rules....thanks for your input: Mudlizard 11/14/2016 - 11:43 a.m.

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Now some republicans are saying Charlottesville was set up by Obama and Soros.

Lava Lizard 8/22/2017 - 10:21 a.m. Edited by Author on 8/22/2017 - 10:26 a.m.

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So losing Bannon makes him more like every other warmonger in the office we've ever had . . . Myxaxter 8/22/2017 - 8:52 a.m.

Where did that come from? * Lava Lizard 8/22/2017 - 9:55 a.m.

Trump surge Afghanistan . . . The Bactria Boogie. * Myxaxter 8/22/2017 - 10:15 a.m.

What does that have to do with Bannon? * Lava Lizard 8/22/2017 - 10:19 a.m.

Bannon is completely against USA being in Afghan, or so the story goes. Bannon had influence on BBG 8/22/2017 - 10:22 a.m.

So Trump I'd now a neocon. This tells me Trump is a follower, not a leader. * Lava Lizard 8/22/2017 - 10:25 a.m.

trump is whatever he thinks he needs to be for trump. * BBG 8/22/2017 - 10:26 a.m.

RE: What does that have to do with Bannon? Myxaxter 8/22/2017 - 10:20 a.m.

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Lord Nelson must go

Boggy Creek Gator 8/22/2017 - 8:27 a.m.

...and Christopher Columbus Boggy Creek Gator 8/22/2017 - 9:02 a.m.

....and a gynecologist UFNY 8/22/2017 - 9:05 a.m.

...and former Mayors of Philly.. UFNY 8/22/2017 - 9:07 a.m.

I had a nautical thing going. Please stick to the theme * Boggy Creek Gator 8/22/2017 - 9:11 a.m.

I suspect they both traveled by boat at some point. * UFNY 8/22/2017 - 9:37 a.m.

HIYO! * chigatorbri 8/22/2017 - 9:49 a.m.

I honestly didn't even think that. * UFNY 8/22/2017 - 9:58 a.m.

I did :) * chigatorbri 8/22/2017 - 10:09 a.m.

RE: I did :) UFNY 8/22/2017 - 10:15 a.m.

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David Brooks: What Moderates Believe (as much as fictional people can believe things anyhow). UFNY 8/22/2017 - 8:15 a.m.

My disagreement with Mr. Brooks . . . Myxaxter 8/22/2017 - 9:22 a.m.

You can't have it. It's the Floater Manifesto. * Flea 8/22/2017 - 8:21 a.m.

Nuh-uh. Y'all need a House to have a Manifesto. UFNY 8/22/2017 - 8:31 a.m.

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So Donnie has no new ideas on Afghanistan, brietbart has ripped him for it & compared him to Obama BBG 8/22/2017 - 7:40 a.m.

Is breitbart news now? * Inspector Vol 8/22/2017 - 7:52 a.m.

Maybe for you * BBG 8/22/2017 - 8:04 a.m.

You bring it up and i get the blame? ROTFLMAO!! * Inspector Vol 8/22/2017 - 9:11 a.m.

you have, again, completely misunderstood (maybe on purpose) something here, perhaps just seeing BBG 8/22/2017 - 9:33 a.m.

RE: You bring it up and i get the blame? ROTFLMAO!! Jethro 8/22/2017 - 9:22 a.m.

more like BBG 8/22/2017 - 9:34 a.m.

Of course not, but it's quite funny to observe the circular firing squad. * Native 8/22/2017 - 7:55 a.m.

Yep. * Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 8:10 a.m.

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"The Most Intolerant Wins: The Dictatorship of the Small Minority"

Hobbes 8/22/2017 - 7:04 a.m.

The first article is brilliant and disturbing. Highly recommend. * Jean Voljean 8/22/2017 - 9:09 a.m.

My criticism of that . . . Myxaxter 8/22/2017 - 10:07 a.m.

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Is it a fair assessment that racism replaced russian collusion as the new shiny object? * FLVOL 8/21/2017 - 9:22 p.m.

Temporarily. * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 10:14 p.m.

Yep. Until the next thing. InvestiGator 8/21/2017 - 11:11 p.m.

Or until Bob Mueller makes his next splash. * Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 7:07 a.m.

this would be a good choice. Jean Voljean 8/21/2017 - 11:44 p.m.

Wow! Now Trump is enabling famine? LOL. Two of those countries Obama bombed and has... BelmontGator 8/22/2017 - 12:04 a.m.

So Trump is right to not do more to let the food make it to starving people? * Jean Voljean 8/22/2017 - 7:27 a.m.

In Somalia, can we even get it to them with al Shabab stealing all of the aid packages? * aubie in bham 8/22/2017 - 10:22 a.m.

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Looks like this speech is Trump's Wag The Dog moment. Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 9:22 p.m.

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He is a terrible speaker. * chigatorbri 8/21/2017 - 9:22 p.m.

And that may have been his best read speech. Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 7:08 a.m.

But he ain't her. Solace for me. * InvestiGator 8/21/2017 - 10:11 p.m.

Pure drivel * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 9:32 p.m.

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Spend more money, threaten allies, kill more people, get pakistan on board by bringing on india. * Booty Faulked 8/21/2017 - 9:21 p.m.

This sounds like the same old same old to me. * chigatorbri 8/21/2017 - 9:23 p.m.

Exactly. He's saying they're going to do what's already been done. * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 9:34 p.m.

What will 4K troops fix that 100K couldn't? * Native 8/22/2017 - 7:56 a.m.

Maybe he can send those chubby white nationalist guys. They have their own guns. * Lava Lizard 8/22/2017 - 9:43 a.m.

They should send Jared, he fixes everything. * Native 8/22/2017 - 9:50 a.m.

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SOT Mnuchin uses government plane for daytrip to Kentucky Booty Faulked 8/21/2017 - 9:11 p.m.

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Here's what bothers me about science Booty Faulked 8/21/2017 - 7:42 p.m.

I love you Sun. * lurch 8/21/2017 - 7:51 p.m.

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University of Texas to remove 4 Confederate statues from main mall. Jethro 8/21/2017 - 3:43 p.m.

That'll fix everything now * Ezgator 8/21/2017 - 8:37 p.m.

Well it won't cure cancer, or bring about world peace, but it will get rid of a southern idol. * Lava Lizard 8/22/2017 - 9:52 a.m.

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Hopefully nobody was stupid enough to look at the sun unprotected today.

Jean Voljean 8/21/2017 - 3:23 p.m.

RE: Hopefully nobody was stupid enough to look at the sun unprotected today. Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 8:11 a.m.

Proving, once again, that he is smarter than any scientist and incapable of error. Flea 8/22/2017 - 8:05 a.m.

I swear he and SOS look similar when they smirk. * InvestiGator 8/21/2017 - 9:08 p.m.

You're ruining the grudging admiration I had for Spurrier. But now that you mention it, yes. * Jean Voljean 8/22/2017 - 7:42 a.m.

Fair is fair.... GatorDJ 8/21/2017 - 3:33 p.m.

Did you see Barron standing behind them with no glasses? Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:37 p.m.

A friend has a boutique shop in Lakeland and I picked up four on Friday Native 8/21/2017 - 5:41 p.m.

No, I missed that. * GatorDJ 8/21/2017 - 3:39 p.m.

RE: No, I missed that. Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:47 p.m.

Is it just me or does anyone else think old Barron will go postal at some point in his life? * Top Cat 8/21/2017 - 4:56 p.m.

Dude... make fun of the parents but don't curse the innocent child * 10EC 8/21/2017 - 5:55 p.m.

Ok, my bad. Anyone think that Donnie is raising a child that could go postal someday? * Top Cat 8/21/2017 - 6:33 p.m.

Donnie raising a child.... LOL.... JimG8R 8/21/2017 - 9:11 p.m.

I agree with the "young kids are off-limits" sentiment. * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 7:39 p.m.

I'm thinking Malia and Sasha go first DW 8/21/2017 - 6:46 p.m.

obvious why you said that Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 7:41 p.m.

Even tho Maia was apparently fully out of it and carted out of lollapalooza? * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 8:05 p.m.

So? * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 8:17 p.m.

Belies the "worse equivocation" bit. Ain't no one a saint. UFNY 8/21/2017 - 8:25 p.m.

Not sure where sainthood entered the discussion Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 8:39 p.m.

By going "worse possible". UFNY 8/22/2017 - 9:51 a.m.

Again...not sure what the argument is. Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 10:18 a.m.

BTW, Chelsea Clinton defends Barron from conservative attacks over his clothing Native 8/22/2017 - 9:41 a.m.

RE: Hopefully she's not stupid enough to do lots of things unprotected any day! * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:26 p.m.

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Colorado man stabbed because he had a nazi haircut. Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 3:04 p.m.

That seems a bit extreme... Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 5:33 p.m.

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He's bringing in top people, big people, huge people. . . . Top Cat 8/21/2017 - 12:34 p.m.

We should take a second to think about the qualifications of who he is replacing Native 8/22/2017 - 7:24 a.m.

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Maybe the media coverage of trump is/was unfair. Booty Faulked 8/21/2017 - 11:45 a.m.

RE: Maybe the media coverage of trump is/was unfair. Jethro 8/21/2017 - 12:14 p.m.

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Musk really hates killer robots

Boggy Creek Gator 8/21/2017 - 11:16 a.m.

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Quite a few good reads this morning revolving around one topic, the GOP and Native 8/21/2017 - 9:57 a.m.

The new Dem battle cry " All Republicans are Racist" - Lets see how this one blows up in their face * Ezgator 8/21/2017 - 8:40 p.m.

Not so much a battle cry as pointing out the actual elephant in the room * Native 8/22/2017 - 7:25 a.m.

Say it enough and you'll actually believe it.....No elephant just donkeys * Ezgator 8/22/2017 - 8:32 a.m.

Ooh, clever retort. Something something kicking ass... Native 8/22/2017 - 10:20 a.m.

NYT in near hysterical stage? atlzamgator 8/21/2017 - 2:54 p.m.

you are right Native... they will not "repudiate" all those things so crafty politically peabody hall 8/21/2017 - 10:24 a.m.

I would be dangerous if I had my own personal editor to follow me around Native 8/21/2017 - 10:48 a.m.

But didn't you hear? The Chief Justice said there's no longer a race problem. * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 10:07 a.m.

Obama set race relations back 40 years - anything he disagreed with was tied to a racial divide - * Ezgator 8/21/2017 - 8:42 p.m.

He had an opportunity to do so much good in that area and failed miserably. That was a jumping off Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 9:44 p.m.

No he said . . . pre-clearance is based on 40 year old facts and Congress is at leave to the review Myxaxter 8/21/2017 - 10:22 a.m.

That's pretty much saying the same thing. He's saying we used to have a problem but... Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 11:47 a.m.

No, that's not . . . they upheld section 5 . . . the idea that pre-clearance is a thing . . . Myxaxter 8/21/2017 - 11:58 a.m.

Jeez! My point is that Justice Roberts was wrong as recent events has shown. * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 4:20 p.m.

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Trump has bankrupted the Secret Service Native 8/21/2017 - 9:39 a.m. Edited by Author on 8/21/2017 - 9:40 a.m.

Edited by Author on 8/21/2017 - 9:40 a.m.

The whole gov't is bankrupt. * VOLMAN 8/21/2017 - 11:12 a.m.

Thanks to GOP presidents trying to run a country like a business. * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 11:50 a.m.

It was Obama who doubled the debt. Unprecedented. * BelmontGator 8/21/2017 - 11:11 p.m.

And Reagan tripled it * Dawgspeare 8/22/2017 - 6:41 a.m.

Numbers not even comparable. At least Regan did something positive by increasing debt by... BelmontGator 8/22/2017 - 9:18 a.m.

Natural consequence of the Great Recession he inherited on day one * Dawgspeare 8/22/2017 - 9:41 a.m.

Each of his budgets reduced the deficit - Medicare D and a few wars all on the credit card did that * Dawgspeare 8/22/2017 - 6:39 a.m.

Yep, the Dem's running the county like Halloween Night with all of the giveaways contributed none. * VOLMAN 8/21/2017 - 3:04 p.m.

Halloween never filed for bankruptcy. * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 5:54 p.m.

Careful...you might get a UNFY "hyperbole" chiding. J/K. * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:13 p.m.

Dude I caved on that a while ago. I'm fully down with the hyperbole and am jumping in with both feet * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 3:35 p.m.

Not a surprise. I mean how many times has this grifter filed for bankruptcy? * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 10:05 a.m.

He promised to run the govt like his businesses * Dawgspeare 8/21/2017 - 9:57 a.m.

Nice * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 11:45 a.m.

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Multiple charities cancel events at Trump's Mar-a-Lago. . . . . .

Top Cat 8/21/2017 - 6:38 a.m.

I would bet it's not cheap to have event there * studegator 8/22/2017 - 3:02 a.m.

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"Tough and smart". . . Top Cat 8/21/2017 - 5:55 a.m.

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Elle Reeve (Vice reporter) on those miscreants she interview Native 8/20/2017 - 11:09 p.m.

Hereis the thing...I believe far and away that 90+% of US despise peabody hall 8/21/2017 - 2:48 a.m.

i agree with your statement and the article. The problem is that Jean Voljean 8/21/2017 - 7:22 a.m.

Are they really the problem right now though? Anti-fa is pretty marginalized but Native 8/21/2017 - 7:31 a.m.

Antifa isn't a serious problem... 3rdWardGator 8/21/2017 - 6:35 p.m.

Bull. Jean Voljean 8/21/2017 - 11:29 p.m.

Here's the problem Native 8/22/2017 - 10:22 a.m.

Where does BLM fit in? Their rise was under Obama. They are more dangerous IMO. Not afraid to... BelmontGator 8/21/2017 - 11:14 p.m.

Put the down the Breitbart and slowly back away * Dawgspeare 8/22/2017 - 8:33 a.m.

Calling bull#badword# on that. Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 7:12 a.m.

Hmmm, not so sure. BLM may have a good message at the core but the actions of many... BelmontGator 8/22/2017 - 9:12 a.m.

BLM doesn't have a mandate to kill police offices or to eliminate them from the planet Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 9:36 a.m.

So if it's not written down, it doesn't exist? What about those dog whistle thingies? * UFNY 8/22/2017 - 9:39 a.m.

Pretty sure I didn't say that (nor imply it), but why waste an opportunity to argue about nothing Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 9:49 a.m.

So now my repsonses are "arguing about nothing"? Love that ad-hominem. UFNY 8/22/2017 - 10:01 a.m.

So now you are a believer in dog whistles? * Mudlizard 8/22/2017 - 10:19 a.m.

I believe in inconsistencies. You can't argue dog whistles for only one side. * UFNY 8/22/2017 - 10:22 a.m.

I can multitask. * Jean Voljean 8/21/2017 - 8:18 a.m.

I'm sure you can but that's not the point, Trump originally tweeted on Saturday Native 8/21/2017 - 8:39 a.m.

Antifa shouldn't have to be obnoxious and violent. Their most powerful message Flea 8/21/2017 - 7:59 a.m.

Yep. Just like BLM. Ruins an otherwise good message. * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 8:42 a.m.

RE: Yep. Just like BLM. Ruins an otherwise good message. Native 8/21/2017 - 9:47 a.m.

I'm not arguing that it's equivalent, only that it's important Flea 8/21/2017 - 9:49 a.m.

What problem is THAT? Becoming neo nazi's? or white supremacists? atlzamgator 8/21/2017 - 8:58 p.m.

The 'problem' as I used it means aggressive behavior at protests which leads to violence. Flea 8/21/2017 - 9:19 p.m.

You mean like not shutting down Hwy 280 in Birmingham, at night, causing serious safety concerns? * aubie in bham 8/22/2017 - 9:28 a.m.

I really hope the calls to remain non-violent are sinking in * Native 8/21/2017 - 10:11 a.m.

I would also like to mention that BLM have really been behaving very responsibly lately Native 8/21/2017 - 10:15 a.m.

From Boston Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 11:05 a.m.

I couldn't do what they do in those situations * aubie in bham 8/21/2017 - 11:54 a.m.

More from Boston. Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 2:34 p.m.

Another one from Boston. Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 2:37 p.m.

Agree with that guy. Sad that a few have to ruin it. * Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:16 p.m.

What they did right was keeping the 2 groups 40 yards apart at all times. UFNY 8/21/2017 - 12:28 p.m.

So did no guns, helmets and shields Native 8/21/2017 - 2:06 p.m.

I'm glad at least the police were grownups there. * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 2:21 p.m.

LE did a great job,I think on that we can agree. * Native 8/21/2017 - 9:19 p.m.

Rule # 1: Keep opposing protesters separated. InvestiGator 8/21/2017 - 10:09 p.m.

Good to hear. * Flea 8/21/2017 - 10:36 a.m.

FTR, I agree with you about that as many progressives consistently call for non-violence Native 8/21/2017 - 8:34 a.m.

So you want people to ignore the idiots you agree with but not the other idiots? * Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 9:18 a.m.

I don't think ignore is the right word, but they aren't the problem right now and focusing attention Native 8/21/2017 - 9:38 a.m.

disagree! They are indeed a part of the problem! While their numbers may be small they are growing peabody hall 8/21/2017 - 10:18 a.m.

I am all for exposing idiocy where its found. Damn which side its on. * Inspector Vol 8/21/2017 - 9:52 a.m.

Why does there even need to be an anti-fascist "movement"? Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 8:04 a.m.

Agreed, but I understand the desire by activists to challenge neo-naziism head-on and not allow Flea 8/21/2017 - 8:09 a.m.

Isn't that pretty much the same thing I'm saying? * Native 8/21/2017 - 9:10 a.m.

If so, then we agree. :) * Flea 8/21/2017 - 9:44 a.m.

Fascists need to be punched. I have no problem with that. * Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 8:24 a.m.

That's where it goes off the rails. Punching is illegal, as it should be. For anyone. * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 8:28 a.m.

What went wrong with society?... Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 11:22 a.m.

FB Memes. Dumbing down discourse since 2004. * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 11:31 a.m.

Sorry, but there's really nothing high brow to discuss on this topic.... Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 11:41 a.m.

It's sad that civility and rule of law are now "highbrow". UFNY 8/21/2017 - 11:46 a.m.

I agree, but when you choose to support a group that slaughtered 6 million Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:22 p.m.

Cast blame, do whatever you want...as long as any punchers are prosecuted, I'm good. * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 3:36 p.m.

Again I agree. Mudlizard 8/21/2017 - 3:38 p.m.

RE: Again I agree. UFNY 8/21/2017 - 3:41 p.m.

They are not "high brow". I said there is nothing "high brow" to discuss. * Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 12:23 p.m.

How to find your Nazi fighting name... Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 11:20 a.m.

Flea-ing! * Native 8/21/2017 - 11:27 a.m.

We should punch figuratively but not literally * Native 8/21/2017 - 8:35 a.m.

RE: We should punch figuratively but not literally Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 11:26 a.m.

HA! * Native 8/21/2017 - 11:34 a.m.

Much more defensible. * UFNY 8/21/2017 - 8:40 a.m.

and antifi should be punched.... figuratively :-) * peabody hall 8/21/2017 - 10:20 a.m.

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POTUS' response to collision between the USS John McCain & merchant ship Native 8/20/2017 - 10:25 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/20/2017 - 10:40 p.m.

Edited by Author on 8/20/2017 - 10:40 p.m.

I'm surprised he didn't say "I never liked that ship. I like ships that don't crash." * Lava Lizard 8/21/2017 - 9:26 a.m.

Great way to treat the Navy. Assmunch. * GatorJamie 8/20/2017 - 10:29 p.m.

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Everything is awesome, everything is cool when you're part of a team! * chigatorbri 8/20/2017 - 10:09 p.m. Starred by 2 People

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Time to take down that George Washington statue. Sterilize! BelmontGator 8/20/2017 - 8:30 p.m.

SMH * Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 9:42 p.m.

Will never happen, nor should it * atlzamgator 8/20/2017 - 9:19 p.m.

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This is probably bad news for Democrats Native 8/20/2017 - 7:19 p.m.

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A minority view of the issue. (Have added a working link and text to the post) Inspector Vol 8/20/2017 - 3:04 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/21/2017 - 11:21 a.m.

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Newest rumor is Gorka is gone! * Native 8/20/2017 - 1:07 p.m.

But #wasntguardrails * UFNY 8/20/2017 - 1:35 p.m.

I always believed the Separation of Powers would thwart Trump, but not Hillary. InvestiGator 8/20/2017 - 7:33 p.m.

Donnie is like the dreadfully unqualified football coach firing all his assistant coaches * BBG 8/20/2017 - 4:59 p.m.

So, Muschamped. * chigatorbri 8/20/2017 - 8:14 p.m.

Except, I'd rather have Muschamp back than Trump in office. Thunder 8/21/2017 - 9:21 a.m.

RE: Donnie is like the dreadfully unqualified football coach firing all his assistant coaches Top Cat 8/20/2017 - 6:29 p.m.

He's running out of envelopes and assistant coaches. * UFNY 8/20/2017 - 5:12 p.m.

Guardrails? * Mudlizard 8/20/2017 - 5:24 p.m.

Nope. You don't run out of those. * UFNY 8/20/2017 - 7:14 p.m.

You can when you run up like an ass and butt in to merge at the last second * BBG 8/20/2017 - 8:06 p.m.

Isn't the point he had no business being there in the first place? * Native 8/20/2017 - 3:45 p.m.

Apparently Guardrails are the BID catch all. Mudlizard 8/20/2017 - 4:20 p.m.

Versus the view here, which my post pointed out, that they don't exist at all.... UFNY 8/20/2017 - 4:27 p.m.

Sorry, hard to respond to such hyperbole. * Mudlizard 8/20/2017 - 4:52 p.m.

Be careful or the sea turns into an Ocean. Judge fairly * aubie in bham 8/20/2017 - 8:29 p.m.

MML * Native 8/20/2017 - 7:21 p.m.

RE: Sorry, hard to respond to such hyperbole. UFNY 8/20/2017 - 5:11 p.m.

He should not have been there, but he was. UFNY 8/20/2017 - 3:47 p.m.

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My favorite idea to replace some of these Confederate statues Native 8/20/2017 - 1:04 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/20/2017 - 1:05 p.m.

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Kevin Sumlin 'proud' Texas A&M canceled on-campus white nationalist rally. . . . Top Cat 8/20/2017 - 12:02 p.m.

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I guess waiting a couple of days to get all the facts only applies to white supremacists.

Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 10:23 a.m.

No, it applies to everyone. * UFNY 8/20/2017 - 10:31 a.m.

And yet it took him only hours to attack protesters. * Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 11:07 a.m.

And it remains applicable to everyone. * UFNY 8/20/2017 - 11:18 a.m.

Miss his point? Or just arguing * Mudlizard 8/20/2017 - 1:55 p.m.

Resist the tyranny of or. * Jean Voljean 8/20/2017 - 3:49 p.m.

His point was BS, so I argued it. That OK with you? * UFNY 8/20/2017 - 3:10 p.m.

Why is it BS? * Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 9:46 p.m.

Hmmm. I guess. * Mudlizard 8/20/2017 - 4:06 p.m.

RE: Hmmm. I guess. Top Cat 8/20/2017 - 6:57 p.m.

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Question for the Lounge. Civil War re-enactors who dress as Confederates - just as offensive Flea 8/20/2017 - 9:36 a.m.

They should be stopped, only so that they cease embarrassing themselves... Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 11:01 a.m.

Is it wrong to play a Confederate soldier in a movie? Why is it different if you do it in a field? * Flea 8/21/2017 - 3:32 p.m.

You get paid as an actor to do it in a movie.... Dawgzilla 8/21/2017 - 5:38 p.m.

They actually have trouble finding anybody to be Union soldier reenactors at Chickamauga. Jethro 8/21/2017 - 11:51 a.m.

I've been to Civil War reenactments and they are as harmless as Medieval jousting matches. Jethro 8/21/2017 - 10:18 a.m.

I have too. They're great. * Flea 8/21/2017 - 3:31 p.m.

Like LARP (Live Action Role Play), a haven for geeks. My HS BF used to do GatorJamie 8/20/2017 - 8:18 p.m.

To me it's like an outdoor play an acting troup is putting on. * Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 9:46 a.m.

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Both sides Native 8/20/2017 - 9:02 a.m.

He's looked at love from both sides now...from give and take...and still somehow... * Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 9:51 a.m.

....you really don't know love at all...... * Rum Runnin Reptile 8/20/2017 - 4:20 p.m.

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Trolls for Trump busted. Cropping, cutting, and pasting isn't rocket science.

Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 10:59 p.m.

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Heritage and history CONSIGLIEREG8R 8/19/2017 - 10:22 p.m.

I have family that fought on both sides of the war and Native 8/20/2017 - 9:23 a.m.

Interesting read. Do you know the author? I knew Mrs Messer and peabody hall 8/19/2017 - 11:39 p.m.

Yes and yes * CONSIGLIEREG8R 8/20/2017 - 11:24 a.m.

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Steve Bannon has something to say. . . . Top Cat 8/19/2017 - 10:00 p.m.

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For all the angst here about police. It is a deadly serious job for those who do it. InvestiGator 8/19/2017 - 9:38 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/19/2017 - 9:41 p.m.

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Condolonces, and respect, may they rest in peace..... JimG8R 8/21/2017 - 2:08 p.m.

I have angst AND (in hobbesian fashion) empathy for you and your brothers. Myxaxter 8/21/2017 - 9:00 a.m.

I think the vast majority feel this way about police.... Mudlizard 8/20/2017 - 8:40 a.m.

Yes, all we are asking for is accountability for those that can't obey the same laws Native 8/20/2017 - 9:29 a.m.

But the protests of idiots will still dominate the news. I am sick of this #badword# * aubie in bham 8/19/2017 - 10:00 p.m.

Protests are as American as rock and roll. * Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 10:38 p.m.

This country was created in protest Native 8/20/2017 - 12:28 p.m.

Officer friendly never patrolled my neighborhood in Detroit, so I learned to never trust a cop. Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 9:58 p.m.

You just lost all credibility with me. InvestiGator 8/19/2017 - 10:16 p.m.

Two FSP guards just convicted of attempted murder Studegater 8/20/2017 - 4:20 a.m.

Corrections officers are not police. InvestiGator 8/20/2017 - 5:08 a.m.

I don't agree with a lot of what Lava posted but in response to your question. Jethro 8/21/2017 - 10:28 a.m.

Did you read the link I posted? This is the FBI saying it. * Lava Lizard 8/20/2017 - 10:25 a.m.

Many leave corrections to become police all the time. studegator 8/20/2017 - 7:04 a.m.

It's not me saying it, just passing it along. Even Snopes says it's true. Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 10:34 p.m.

but if you are threatened, you will scream like a girl and dial 911 * aubie in bham 8/19/2017 - 10:01 p.m.

LOL! We'll it hasn't happened yet, but I've never been much of a screamer anyway. * Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 10:36 p.m.

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You know you must suck when even Carl Icahn thinks you are not worth hanging with. . . . Top Cat 8/19/2017 - 12:32 p.m.

He left hrs before the New Yorker slammed him. * Booty Faulked 8/19/2017 - 3:54 p.m.

What a mealy mouthed resignation letter. * Hobbes 8/19/2017 - 1:33 p.m.

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About that Confederate "diversity" dude Native 8/19/2017 - 10:02 a.m. Edited by Author on 8/19/2017 - 10:11 a.m.

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Loved the description of this group on Twitter: Confederate Cosplay Native 8/19/2017 - 10:27 a.m.

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Alex Fields diagnosed with schizophrenia. I've read that twice now iPhoneHobbes 8/19/2017 - 9:10 a.m. Edited by Author on 8/19/2017 - 9:13 a.m.

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This is (domestic) Terrorism Booty Faulked 8/19/2017 - 4:11 a.m.

yes it is, 100%. * BBG 8/19/2017 - 11:03 a.m.

Naw, they all just watched American Sniper on Netflix. Besides the weapons are just for show. Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 9:55 a.m.

what I wonder is how long before some other group takes them up on their threatening posture BBG 8/19/2017 - 11:07 a.m.

Redneck Revolt puts the "red" back in redneck and show up armed iPhoneHobbes 8/19/2017 - 11:43 a.m.

Redneck Revolt puts the "red" back in redneck and show up armed Booty Faulked 8/19/2017 - 2:58 p.m.

they're doing what they always have done, just a bit bolder right now - show up ready for and BBG 8/19/2017 - 12:21 p.m.

Redneck Revolt are leftists. Hobbes 8/19/2017 - 1:36 p.m.

Bunch of dumba$$es. Did you see their Charlottesville report Jean Voljean 8/19/2017 - 3:14 p.m.

RE: Bunch of dumba$$es. Did you see their Charlottesville report iPhoneHobbes 8/19/2017 - 4:19 p.m.

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Via Charlie Sykes on Twitter.... GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 11:18 p.m.

Trump. * chigatorbri 8/19/2017 - 9:58 a.m.

some Bannon v Hannity angst would be SPEC TAC U LAR. * BBG 8/19/2017 - 11:11 a.m.

RE: Via Charlie Sykes on Twitter.... Booty Faulked 8/19/2017 - 4:08 a.m.

Oh, they do seem to have the same base instincts. * GatorDJ 8/19/2017 - 6:28 a.m.

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#WAR #GOODGODYALL Hobbes 8/18/2017 - 10:31 p.m. Edited by Admin on 8/18/2017 - 10:41 p.m.

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Yet another post that gets an Edwin Starr. That White House pic.... GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 10:37 p.m.

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Words I don't say every day: Good on Joe Manchin Native 8/18/2017 - 8:38 p.m.

RE: Words I don't say every day: Good on Joe Manchin Top Cat 8/19/2017 - 12:37 p.m.

Where did I say that? Native 8/19/2017 - 1:16 p.m.

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Leftie organization says Trump needs to go, yesterday Native 8/18/2017 - 8:25 p.m.

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Another FL charter school goes belly up days into the school year. This is on the heels of a story Native 8/18/2017 - 8:12 p.m.

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Adios Forts Bragg, Polk, and Benning?

InvestiGator 8/18/2017 - 7:55 p.m.

I remember learning about Henry Benning as an 18 y/o kid stationed at Fort Benning.... JimG8R 8/21/2017 - 1:58 p.m.

The money quote: Hobbes 8/19/2017 - 10:47 a.m.

here's the catch, the attachment to the past 'leaders' are no longer there in a practical sense FLVOL 8/19/2017 - 11:43 a.m.

RE: here's the catch, the attachment to the past 'leaders' are no longer there in a practical sense Booty Faulked 8/19/2017 - 7:04 p.m.

I don't necessarily disagree, but as I advocate on the WAHAB, I don't think a republic should Hobbes 8/19/2017 - 1:31 p.m.

Good idea. There are plenty of U.S. generals and MOH recipients to name those forts after... Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 8:33 a.m.

Im sure Fort's Berdahl and Manning would be at the top of the list for many * FLVOL 8/19/2017 - 11:36 a.m.

They might be on your but not mine. Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 1:43 p.m.

RE: Im sure Fort's Berdahl and Manning would be at the top of the list for many iPhoneHobbes 8/19/2017 - 11:44 a.m.

Think Jacksonville should go back to Cows Ford or maybe Jesse Jacksonville. * Boggy Creek Gator 8/18/2017 - 10:02 p.m.

The dumbest idea . ever. * FLVOL 8/18/2017 - 9:09 p.m.

Most hyperbolic description ever? In the realm of ideas I can think of many dumber than this. Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 9:57 p.m.

its an exaggeration to you because you don't understand it, and that's not my issue * FLVOL 8/19/2017 - 6:49 a.m.

Ah. So because I was not in the military I don't understand that around World War One several Jean Voljean 8/19/2017 - 7:44 a.m.

you nailed it, you really don't understand * FLVOL 8/19/2017 - 11:27 a.m.

I was in the military and Jean has it right. * Lava Lizard 8/19/2017 - 10:41 p.m.

according to Google, sure he does * FLVOL 8/20/2017 - 6:51 a.m.

Out of all the #badword# on the board you chose this to label Most hyperbolic description ever ? * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 11:07 p.m.

Solipsistic history abounds now. * InvestiGator 8/18/2017 - 10:10 p.m.

Why is anything named after Braxton Bragg? * Hobbes 8/18/2017 - 10:42 p.m.

One time at band camp he ate a hunert hard-bolled eggs, ahhh sweh * Dawgspeare 8/19/2017 - 6:31 a.m.

The History of Auburn University. InvestiGator 8/18/2017 - 11:38 p.m.

Burn it!! Burn everything touched by confederate losers. * Inspector Vol 8/19/2017 - 4:12 a.m.

Tichenor Hall, ironically home of AU's School of Communication & Journalism, is named after this guy InvestiGator 8/19/2017 - 5:40 a.m.

My question was why name anything after Braxton Bragg, one of the worst generals in an army Hobbes 8/19/2017 - 10:30 a.m.

I saw an opening and took it. InvestiGator 8/19/2017 - 11:31 a.m.

I know, right? Thunder 8/19/2017 - 10:30 a.m.

Seriously, it would. * Hobbes 8/19/2017 - 10:33 a.m.

Just think how offended families are that their loved ones are buried at Arlington. * Inspector Vol 8/19/2017 - 5:55 a.m.

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The Evangelicals are starting to bail

Native 8/18/2017 - 7:53 p.m.

He's just now recognizing a conflict in values? Where's he been, on a deserted island somewhere? * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 8:49 p.m.

I know...but this week feels like they can't ignore it any more...ignoring takes work * Native 8/18/2017 - 8:51 p.m.

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And in the biggest blow to Trump yet, Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 7:44 p.m.

Did you see their letter? It was amazing...the first letter of each paragraph spelled out "RESIST" Native 8/18/2017 - 7:49 p.m.

Sublime. * Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 7:54 p.m.

Love is, what I got. * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 11:09 p.m.

Also, Trump tweeted that he broke up with them first, LOLOL! * Native 8/18/2017 - 8:28 p.m.

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Hugh Hewitt MML a while ago. He used the word "pivot." * GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 7:04 p.m.

Clap harder Hugh, and maybe Tinkerbell will make your dreams come true! * Native 8/18/2017 - 8:35 p.m.

LOLOL * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 7:25 p.m.

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Curious as to whether you think Trump is hurting his own brand. I think he is. * Top Cat 8/18/2017 - 6:53 p.m.

No. * iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 7:12 p.m.

Never cared for him, still don't. * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 6:58 p.m.

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Bannon back to Brietbart as Exec Chairman. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 6:28 p.m.

#WAR iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 6:42 p.m.

Mitch McConnell and Paul Ryan are chugging the Pepto. * GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 6:50 p.m.

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Charles Barkley agrees with 3rd Ward: iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 5:05 p.m.

In other words Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 6:19 p.m.

I thought some things go w/o saying iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 6:39 p.m.

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friends to the left and friends to the right peabody hall 8/18/2017 - 5:03 p.m.

Shows a stunning lack of understanding of the topic on which he wrote. * Mudlizard 8/19/2017 - 6:23 a.m.

Vacuity posturing as wisdom. * Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 7:34 p.m.

One of the last of the Dixiecrats. * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 6:40 p.m.

Benghazi * Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 6:00 p.m.

He has zero understanding of what Trump is. Beyond zero. * GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 5:50 p.m.

Barney has actually spent time with Trump....have you? * peabody hall 8/18/2017 - 10:26 p.m.

No, and so? GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 10:42 p.m.

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to tear these down or not... that is the question... peabody hall 8/18/2017 - 4:48 p.m.

I think you'd be close to universal, nationwide, support for those things coming down. * Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 4:57 p.m.

the cities and their multitude of lobbyists are a really peabody hall 8/18/2017 - 5:14 p.m.

I loathe them Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 5:29 p.m.

Many cities and towns shorten the time of the amber lights below ASHTO standards to increase # of iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 5:18 p.m.

They have them all over the place here, especially at "right turns". They are a pure money chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 5:17 p.m.

Yep, my son got nailed in Tampa about two months ago, $120 ticket. He slowed down and Native 8/18/2017 - 5:21 p.m.

I've gotten two of those. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 5:51 p.m.

my point on the revenue bonanza stands and you and I also both know peabody hall 8/18/2017 - 5:34 p.m.

A rolling stop with nothing in sight does not merit $150.00. It's a huge money grab. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 5:53 p.m.

It was a lesson learned, we have told him to always assume someone has you on camera * Native 8/18/2017 - 5:35 p.m.

hope you told him not to do rolling stops too..... I struggle with peabody hall 8/19/2017 - 7:31 a.m.

He paid his own ticket without being told, so I think it was a lesson learned Native 8/19/2017 - 8:43 a.m.

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Incoming sophomore @ boston u whines Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 4:48 p.m.

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Gorkamas is coming! Native 8/18/2017 - 4:13 p.m.

Gorka must come into to the WH everyday and just hang out on a sofa. What a gig. * lurch 8/18/2017 - 9:10 p.m.

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Clinton News Network Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 3:57 p.m.

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If there's only a limited time for statues to be up... Thunder 8/18/2017 - 3:04 p.m. A HOF Post

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You've made me laugh/groan twice now! Stop it! * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 3:27 p.m.

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What if the confederate statues are a subsect of Weeping Angels? * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 3:01 p.m.

Blink and you're dead. ;) Thunder 8/18/2017 - 3:03 p.m.

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In case you missed it, this week's cover of The New Yorker and The Economist Native 8/18/2017 - 2:59 p.m.

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3rd Ward not alone in thinking fight over monuments dumb: iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 2:29 p.m.

Yeah, his argument works the other way too. * Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 3:09 p.m.

Argument applies against both sides? iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 4:54 p.m.

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Bannon out and now this:

iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 2:26 p.m.

Great day! * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 3:02 p.m.

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WaPo's Dave Weigel on the Ds next move Native 8/18/2017 - 1:45 p.m.

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Steve Bannon out. * Top Cat 8/18/2017 - 12:49 p.m.

Hopefully President Miller and President Gorka will get magazine covers from Time next. * GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 5:46 p.m.

Miller may be more dangerous than Bannon. Definitely scores higher on the Creepy Scale. Top Cat 8/18/2017 - 8:43 p.m.

Read earlier (WaPo I think) that Miller is likely safe.... GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 10:19 p.m.

Littlefinger, perhaps? * Thunder 8/19/2017 - 8:52 a.m.

Animal House reference. :) * GatorDJ 8/19/2017 - 9:48 a.m.

Going doesn't mean gone. * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 3:04 p.m.

How is Trump going to know how to do without his whiteboard? * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 2:25 p.m.

He gave that "interview" on purpose to force it. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 2:17 p.m.

Some rumors he actually resigned two weeks ago, which means he was flipping off the WH * Native 8/18/2017 - 2:27 p.m.

Then he just did it to say F you guys. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 2:43 p.m.

Auf Wiedersehen, Arschloch! * gatorbob 8/18/2017 - 2:16 p.m.

The best people. Believe me * iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 1:58 p.m.

Another thought...this could fracture Trump's most loyal base. There are likely Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:37 p.m.

Kind of puts Bannon calling the alt right losers and clowns in context, doesn't it? Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 3:23 p.m.

Now that is some good yt CT right there. iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 4:57 p.m.

Okay. I could be wrong. ;-) * Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 7:48 p.m.

He called white supremicists,Nazis and the KKK losers and clowns, not the alt-right. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 3:31 p.m.

So you think he's going out as a loyal soldier? * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 3:28 p.m.

Possibly. Although, Roger Stone recently wrote an article saying Bannon had to go... yt 8/18/2017 - 2:17 p.m.

Joy Reid is reporting her sources say Bannon is "going ugly" and this is hilarious Native 8/18/2017 - 1:52 p.m.

Did we runoft DJ or is he on vacation? * Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 1:43 p.m.

It's not like much is going on. * GatorDJ 8/18/2017 - 7:02 p.m.

He is in DC with a U-haul taking about Bannon's stuff * aubie in bham 8/18/2017 - 1:47 p.m.

Likely lurking...helping his daughter move * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:47 p.m.

She must be in her 80's at least SpacinGator 8/18/2017 - 2:07 p.m.

They still work for me! Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 2:21 p.m.

How much are you paying them? ;) * Thunder 8/18/2017 - 3:17 p.m.

Duckbucks and VS thongs. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 3:32 p.m.

#GUARDRAILS * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 1:19 p.m.

There are no such thing as guardrails, only "you got luckyyyyyy" * UFNY 8/18/2017 - 5:07 p.m.

More like a child's safety gate or playpen with Trump. * SpacinGator 8/18/2017 - 2:04 p.m.

RE: #TRAININGWHEELS * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:24 p.m.

I can see him turning on Trump now. Could be interesting * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:01 p.m.

He's still a political anarchist, and Trump is still his best hope to deliver * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 1:34 p.m.

#BUZZKILL * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:36 p.m.

nobody that's left so far has really thrown trump under the bus. * BBG 8/18/2017 - 1:16 p.m.

I know. Bannon is seemingly the loosest cannon and has the media ties...one can hope. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:20 p.m.

Rick Wilson weighs in Native 8/18/2017 - 1:42 p.m.

Read somewhere that he is now only 6 Senators away from removal... yt 8/18/2017 - 1:07 p.m.

Chuck Todd seems to think it's the beginning of the end. He said he's been told some are hoping Native 8/18/2017 - 1:27 p.m.

Ding dong the warlock's dead! * Native 8/18/2017 - 12:58 p.m.

Gorka should be next! * Native 8/18/2017 - 1:30 p.m.

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The agonizing, 8-page memo on how to chauffeur a congressman

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Can Trump find NK on a map? Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 11:23 a.m.

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#badword# the statues, there's actually important #badword# going on that we should worry about. WAR DAMN EAGLE 8/18/2017 - 11:07 a.m. A HOF Post

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LLOL at what Charles Barkley said about statues... SpacinGator 8/18/2017 - 2:12 p.m.

Living in the world of shiny objects for his moron base to stare at. * UGADawginVA 8/18/2017 - 11:52 a.m.

His moron base? Nice. MIAUTIGER 8/18/2017 - 1:00 p.m.

I think it's those who continue to support him...and I may be wrong Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:08 p.m.

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Heather Heyer's Mom has refused to talk with Donnie. Wonder if Donnie will make her the BBG 8/18/2017 - 10:55 a.m.

RE: Heather Heyer's Mom has refused to talk with Donnie. Wonder if Donnie will make her the Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 11:13 a.m.

that's hilarious. * BBG 8/18/2017 - 11:31 a.m.

If he's willing to go after gold star parents then nothing should be out of bounds for him. * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 11:01 a.m.

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Reichsmarschall Pence compared Trump to Teddy Roosevelt. Poor choice.

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If nothing else comes of this . . . maybe the tide of "evil" Jefferson has been slowed . . . Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 10:15 a.m.

Really? Jefferson and Washington despised slavery? Revisionist BS. BelmontGator 8/18/2017 - 11:24 a.m.

Why such aggression on this topic? Don't you understand both sides? Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 12:13 p.m.

I have the perspective of one who grew up in the north and have lived... BelmontGator 8/18/2017 - 2:16 p.m.

Thanks for that reply. But isn't that what museums are for? Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 3:09 p.m.

Is history better learned where it occurred or in a museum? BelmontGator 8/18/2017 - 3:30 p.m.

Place a plaque on the spot if you wish. Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 3:40 p.m.

This post makes me wonder about Vietnam... yt 8/18/2017 - 4:58 p.m.

We didn't lose Vietnam. The peace treaty was signed, and all American combat troops were gone. * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 9:06 p.m.

Are you kidding me? SMDH. ^^^^^Revisionist BS right here.^^^^^^^ The posts on this... BelmontGator 8/19/2017 - 10:19 a.m.

If you ever have the chance to visit Gettysburg or Anteitam or other battle site, please do. BelmontGator 8/18/2017 - 4:18 p.m.

I think you need to read his post again. He is on the get rid of them side. * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 12:28 p.m.

Well at least it's flipped sides . . . now it's the right side. Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 11:39 a.m.

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Per Fox, Trump doesn't own the winery in Charlottesville, and it'stiny as well. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 10:09 a.m.

and the wines suck - bigly. * BBG 8/18/2017 - 10:15 a.m.

I had to check and see where Dreaming Tree wine originates from and it is CA and not CoachTony 8/18/2017 - 1:48 p.m.

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Helpful suggestions with what to do with confederate statuary . . . Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 9:02 a.m. A HOF Post

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RE: Helpful suggestions with what to do with confederate statuary . . . WAR DAMN EAGLE 8/18/2017 - 9:56 a.m.

Those are hilarious! * Jethro 8/18/2017 - 9:41 a.m.

I particularly like his point about hard-on for generals . . . Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 9:43 a.m.

Good stuff. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 9:37 a.m.

Recycling is good! I saw someone recently where street artists were turning swastik graffiti into Native 8/18/2017 - 9:15 a.m.

Native. You are the Donna Quixote of Confederate statues * DW 8/18/2017 - 10:30 a.m.

Not really, I've devoted very little personal time compared to most activists I know Native 8/18/2017 - 10:43 a.m.

Right? Left? Left? Right? I'm confused. * DW 8/18/2017 - 4:31 p.m.

That's hardly a surprise * Native 8/18/2017 - 5:22 p.m.

LOL * BelmontGator 8/18/2017 - 11:00 a.m.

I think they should take the confederate tombstones and use them as cobblestones for streets. * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 9:12 a.m.

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Heard an interesting tidbit on NPR. Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 9:01 a.m.

That assumes a negative correlation. Maybe they feel they should stay to help him 10EC 8/18/2017 - 11:29 a.m.

Demonstrates the persistent lust for political power going back to the Moral Majority in the 1980s dudehead 8/18/2017 - 11:28 a.m.

some on the board have (at least?) spoken out about it TxGator 8/18/2017 - 10:07 a.m.

RE: some on the board have (at least?) spoken out about it TxGator 8/18/2017 - 10:12 a.m.

Some but not all. Guess the ones who didn't speak out don't want to upset their parishioners. * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 11:07 a.m.

You are correct, I think NPR must have picked that up off social media, where it's been mentioned Native 8/18/2017 - 9:56 a.m.

Well he does need all the help he can get on that front. * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 9:50 a.m.

It's not working. * Jean Voljean 8/18/2017 - 10:30 a.m.

Just keep baptizing him til he relents. Some may call that water boarding but hey...if it works. * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 12:12 p.m.

Or see just how long he can hold his breath. * VOLMAN 8/18/2017 - 12:44 p.m.

That is interesting. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 9:41 a.m.

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This MML... Flea 8/18/2017 - 8:35 a.m. Edited by Author on 8/18/2017 - 8:37 a.m.

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Awesome. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 9:47 a.m.

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Tina Fey was back last night, too bad I can no longer participate in #sheetcaking but Native 8/18/2017 - 8:18 a.m.

How crappy of a candidate she was to lose to Donald Trump.... * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 9:17 a.m.

So crappy it took 25 years of RW lies, third parties, Putin and Comey to deny her an electoral Native 8/18/2017 - 9:46 a.m.

Champion of Life if you will.... * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 10:28 a.m.

or how #badword#ing misguided are people who voted for donnie? embarrassing. * BBG 8/18/2017 - 10:11 a.m.

I got what I wanted out of it. And so far... it is playing out EXACTLY as I had hoped. 10EC 8/18/2017 - 10:27 a.m.

Yep, pretty powerful Oped in the NYTimes from someone who just bailed, and apologized for his Native 8/18/2017 - 10:16 a.m.

They didn't want someone constantly accused of corruption, they wanted the real deal * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 10:13 a.m.

Tina Fey lost to Trump? Damn, I totally would have voted for her. * Jethro 8/18/2017 - 9:42 a.m.

ikr * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 10:24 a.m.

If she did. 3M more votes. She would've been a great President compared to the Big Orange Con. * SpacinGator 8/18/2017 - 9:29 a.m.

My wife is going to like that a lot. * SpacinGator 8/18/2017 - 8:44 a.m.

I owe her an email response, will touch base soon. * Native 8/18/2017 - 8:49 a.m.

Cool. She'll appreciate that. Their women's group meeting is next week. * SpacinGator 8/18/2017 - 10:45 a.m.

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Missouri lawmaker says Trump should be assassinated. Flea 8/18/2017 - 6:57 a.m.

A moron... bigly * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 8:29 a.m.

RE: A moron... bigly Hobbes 8/18/2017 - 12:11 p.m.

That's who I was referring to, but you are right, it does apply equally to both of them * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 1:31 p.m.

LOL...idiot. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 8:01 a.m.

RE: LOL...idiot. Hobbes 8/18/2017 - 12:12 p.m.

Dumb, but I dont' see anyone here defending her stupidity * Native 8/18/2017 - 7:44 a.m.

The inevitable product of escalating Trump rhetoric. * UFNY 8/18/2017 - 7:39 a.m.

IKR? Donnie needs to STFU * BBG 8/18/2017 - 9:55 a.m.

The guardrails will keep Trump safe. * Jethro 8/18/2017 - 9:13 a.m.

Right. Poor leadership and feckless leadership tends to bring out the worst in people. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 8:02 a.m.

this is what happens when you normalize that behavior * aubie in bham 8/18/2017 - 10:30 a.m.

But does not give the opposition the OK..... UFNY 8/18/2017 - 8:23 a.m.

I wasn't justifying bad behavior.Just pointing out yet another reason responsible leadership matters * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 8:26 a.m.

Sounded to me like either misdirection or excusing. UFNY 8/18/2017 - 8:30 a.m.

Right, OK. I get your point, and my point remains. Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 8:38 a.m.

You really expect more from Trump at this point? * UFNY 8/18/2017 - 9:47 a.m.

NO! I hope for more from the rest of us. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 9:50 a.m.

Exactly, I knew what Trump was 20 years ago, it's that so many would support him that is Native 8/18/2017 - 10:17 a.m.

And something we are all responsible for. * UFNY 8/18/2017 - 11:37 a.m.

Do you think she was blaming you specifically? ;p * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 11:41 a.m.

I just think she doesn't get that Hillary was a God awful candidate for the Dems 10EC 8/18/2017 - 12:31 p.m.

What things that she actually did did you think made Trump a more reasonable choice? * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 12:35 p.m.

Obama 2.0 and Trump was never a reasonable choice. It was a horrid choice * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 12:48 p.m.

Obama did a good job - consistent job growth and consistent deficit reduction with each budget Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 1:30 p.m.

And stable, steady, mature leadership, which is nice. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 1:50 p.m.

Quit complaining about the lounge! * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 3:29 p.m.

Did I tout W? BUT.... we will have to just disagree on O. * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 1:48 p.m.

To put this in Tennessee Terms... Trump = Kiffin and Hillary = Peyton * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 12:33 p.m.

or does it merely reveal the worst people? * Flea 8/18/2017 - 8:04 a.m.

Michelle O: Being President doesn't change you, it just reveals who you are. Of course Native 8/18/2017 - 10:18 a.m.

Whichever. Either way, mark me down as someone who thinks Trump is a bad leader! Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 8:07 a.m.

Franklin warned Wayne 8/18/2017 - 7:20 a.m.

Tony Franklin? * Hobbes 8/18/2017 - 12:12 p.m.

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General Pershing never had 49 terrorists killed with bullets dipped in pigs blood, BUT. . . Top Cat 8/18/2017 - 5:49 a.m.

While the malignant narcissist thinks "all these malcontent troops are jealous of my genius" * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 8:32 a.m.

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Miami-Dade takes strong stand: "our statue shall not be moved"

iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 1:41 a.m.

"Garish and un-Miami" - this seems contradictory. * Flea 8/18/2017 - 7:00 a.m.

RE: "Garish and un-Miami" - this seems contradictory. iPhoneHobbes 8/18/2017 - 7:56 a.m.

Oh it's very Miami. * chigatorbri 8/18/2017 - 8:22 a.m.

I have embraced it and wouldn't want to see it go. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 8:09 a.m.

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Thank you Ah-nold... "There are not two sides to bigotry" Native 8/17/2017 - 10:56 p.m.

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There's a reason MSNBC is kicking everyone else's ass in rating right now. Native 8/17/2017 - 10:50 p.m.

This is excellent. Fact based vs. rhetoric. * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 9:11 a.m.

Fake News meets Real News, and in real time. * BBG 8/18/2017 - 10:58 a.m.

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Art of the Deal Writer Says Trump Will Resign Before Year's End

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So he saw BBG's post about passing Obama on twitter? * Wayne 8/17/2017 - 10:29 p.m.

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An NPR poll backs up 3rd Ward's point below. Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 9:46 p.m.

Except that this isn't the main democrats issue, just the one with the light shining on it. * Lava Lizard 8/18/2017 - 9:07 a.m.

Exactly, we didn't choose this moment, this moment chose us * Native 8/18/2017 - 9:47 a.m.

Perfectly stated...furthermore 3rdWardGator 8/18/2017 - 12:13 a.m.

I think y'all have a chicken and egg issue. Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 12:21 a.m.

The entire premise of the poll is faulty Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 11:37 p.m.

A burning cross honors christ in the same way statues of lee honor CSA vets. * Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 12:01 a.m.

Don't you think it's significant that corporate America is leading the way on this? Look who donated Native 8/17/2017 - 10:17 p.m.

No. I don't. 3rdWardGator 8/18/2017 - 12:16 a.m.

Well, again, I think your premise is wrong, and as someone actually involved in resisting Native 8/18/2017 - 7:46 a.m.

You made my point 3rdWardGator 8/18/2017 - 12:24 p.m.

I don't know how you can state that equivocally without knowing what we are up to Native 8/18/2017 - 2:00 p.m.

Then there's this...wonder how that polling will look post-Charlottesville, after all Native 8/17/2017 - 11:17 p.m.

44% of African Americans are segregationists . . . who knew. * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:54 p.m.

Ya, that was pretty surprising. Beware the echo chamber. * Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 9:58 p.m.

I'd say your post and the threads below composed of some thoughtful people . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 10:01 p.m.

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Not all segregationists burned crosses, wore hoods and participated in lynchings. Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 9:25 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/17/2017 - 9:26 p.m.

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Ideology 3rdWardGator 8/18/2017 - 12:25 a.m.

RE: Ideology Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 12:41 a.m.

Agree with Booty or you are all racists . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:33 p.m.

RE: Agree with Booty or you are all racists . . . Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 11:39 p.m.

Here's another thought... 3rdWardGator 8/18/2017 - 12:32 a.m.

RE: Here's another thought... Booty Faulked 8/18/2017 - 12:49 a.m.

A valid point . . . lost in a sea of hyperbole and rant. * Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 9:34 a.m.

Calling posts here a "sea of hyperbole and rant" is like texbook hyperbole * Native 8/18/2017 - 10:44 a.m.

In this particular case . . . I'll stand with my post. * Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 11:02 a.m.

Gotta go with Native on that. "Sea of hyperbole" is kinda hyperbolic.:) * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 3:15 p.m.

Dayum! Mud is the BEST judge! :-) * Native 8/18/2017 - 7:41 p.m.

Her check cleared first. Gotcha. * Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 3:29 p.m.

Well of course you will, but that doesn't make it any more accurate * Native 8/18/2017 - 1:03 p.m.

The posts are submitted to a candidate board, judge as you may. * Wayne 8/18/2017 - 1:26 p.m.

I have a feeling this is going to go down like Russian judges * Native 8/18/2017 - 2:01 p.m.

The ink on the checks is not even dry. * Myxaxter 8/18/2017 - 2:01 p.m.

Smart people become fooking idiots when it comes to race and the south. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 9:53 p.m.

RE: Smart people become fooking idiots when it comes to race and the south. Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 11:44 p.m.

There is iron in my words of criticism, so there is also iron in my words of praise. * Inspector Vol 8/18/2017 - 7:41 a.m.

I am just impressed at all this purging talk..... UFNY 8/17/2017 - 9:44 p.m.

Well, a major enemy of Nazism is Communism Thunder 8/17/2017 - 9:57 p.m.

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Can private employers fire employees for going to white nationalist rallies?

iPhoneHobbes 8/17/2017 - 9:06 p.m.

In an at-will employment state like Virginia, yes. General rule, with exceptions. * GatorJamie 8/17/2017 - 9:37 p.m.

I would think "yes of course" and was surprised at the answer given in the link. * Hobbes 8/18/2017 - 12:14 p.m.

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Investigator's Opinion Echoed . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:01 p.m.

We maintained many police lines separating white supremacists and counter-protesters in my day. InvestiGator 8/17/2017 - 10:13 p.m.

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Fred Kaplan: What Germany can teach us about remembering an ugly past without Native 8/17/2017 - 8:58 p.m.

Others are picking up on what Germany can teach us . .. Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:15 p.m.

Also, Stonewall Jackson's decendents: G-G-Grandsons say it needs to go Native 8/17/2017 - 9:09 p.m.

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RGRB - I thought Corker's Trump statement today was strong * Native 8/17/2017 - 8:54 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/17/2017 - 8:55 p.m.

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Another analysis of our blessed POTUS's ability (or lack thereof) to think and believe things iPhoneHobbes 8/17/2017 - 8:50 p.m.

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Just wondering Wize Guy 8/17/2017 - 8:15 p.m.

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Love this tweet Jethro 8/17/2017 - 6:54 p.m.

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I appreciated this, Bernie supporter finally tells the truth about the election Native 8/17/2017 - 6:37 p.m.

RE: I appreciated this, Bernie supporter finally tells the truth about the election Top Cat 8/17/2017 - 9:30 p.m.

If she lit herself on fire, would that make you feel better? Native 8/17/2017 - 10:20 p.m.

RE: If she lit herself on fire, would that make you feel better? Top Cat 8/18/2017 - 5:51 a.m.

So what? It's still significant because the most important one she got more than Native 8/18/2017 - 7:48 a.m.

RE: So what? It's still significant because the most important one she got more than Flea 8/18/2017 - 9:13 a.m.

No, because it would add to the man made global warming problem. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 11:24 p.m.

Just goes to show, some people won't be happy no matter what she does! * Native 8/17/2017 - 11:28 p.m.

I could go with fire... * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 2:04 p.m.

Her poll numbers have got to be higher than Trump's now right? * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 6:52 p.m.

Her poll #s were higher than trumps when the votes were cast. * Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 8:47 p.m.

IKR * Native 8/17/2017 - 9:00 p.m.

Not even Norway produces more red herrings than you do. * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 6:56 p.m.

Not even Norway produces more red herrings than you do. Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 7:00 p.m.

Yes, I was aware of the source of your attempted thread hijack. * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 7:17 p.m.

Wow. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 9:13 p.m.

The narrative shall not be interrupted. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 9:29 p.m.

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Email I received from a friend today Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 6:35 p.m.

Nurses do not diagnose cancer Chemosabe 8/18/2017 - 6:34 a.m.

Is it an evolving tool? * Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 9:13 a.m.

I've noted some of what's listed on occasion..Singularity University stuff...I met Salim Ismail LAGator 8/17/2017 - 7:00 p.m.

sounds like talk i heard from Singularity U prof Vivek Wadhwa a few years ago * lurch 8/17/2017 - 9:08 p.m.

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I think I can go ahead and laminate this. . . .

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The real Donald Drumpf?There is no "there" there. Hobbes 8/17/2017 - 4:36 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/17/2017 - 5:10 p.m.

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Now this is how you resist! Durham, NC residents showing up to turn themselves in over the Native 8/17/2017 - 3:49 p.m.

Cool, make them pay to restore the statue * Coupe De VOL 8/17/2017 - 6:03 p.m.

Nah. Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 6:52 p.m.

And fine them each for criminal mischief. Could be lucrative for the city. * BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 6:13 p.m.

I thought I saw someone complain about how much it costs to remove these statues. Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 6:30 p.m.

They get to help pay for the removal and a criminal record to boot! Win for both sides. * BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 6:33 p.m.

Why do you put that in quotes? It was a crime. It was remarkably stupid. 10EC 8/17/2017 - 5:09 p.m.

She didn't. The tweeter she linked did. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 5:11 p.m.

Apologies. I know nothing of the new social media. I still use here. * 10EC 8/17/2017 - 5:12 p.m.

That's why we let you hang around. Compared to you we are total hipsters. Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 6:05 p.m.

Good, makes it easier to send them the bill. * BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 4:21 p.m.

It's an interesting ploy because how much does the city really want to invest in... yt 8/17/2017 - 5:45 p.m.

RE: Now this is how you resist! Durham, NC residents showing up to turn themselves in over the Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 4:08 p.m.

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Liberals piss me off... 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 2:55 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/17/2017 - 3:07 p.m.

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RE: Liberals piss me off... Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 8:58 p.m.

RE: Liberals piss me off... Wize Guy 8/18/2017 - 12:27 p.m.

I just talked to all the liberals. Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 7:12 p.m.

Get a job..... * 10EC 8/17/2017 - 10:03 p.m.

Stop beating your wife. * Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 11:40 p.m.

What if she likes it? :) * 10EC 8/18/2017 - 1:53 p.m.

Conservative tears. * Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 6:53 p.m.

I'll grant you 3rd ain't the most liberal liberal on the board . . . but he's not a conservative. Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 7:09 p.m.

Right, but hippie-punching from a perceived liberal is the best hippie-punching of all Native 8/17/2017 - 8:50 p.m.

Hippie-punching is a fun sport...regardless of who is doing the punching. :-) * BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 11:38 p.m.

Whatever the reasons . . . his assertions are demonstrably false. * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:02 p.m.

I think he got personalities mixed up, but his point wasn't wrong * Native 8/17/2017 - 10:52 p.m.

Viva Las Vegas, my liberal brother! JimG8R 8/17/2017 - 4:25 p.m.

Getting rid of the statues is just one of the battles the left is winning and it's been going on... Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 3:58 p.m.

you might win the removal....but you lost a whole lot more in the process * aubie in bham 8/18/2017 - 11:14 a.m.

I know, it's like Steve Bannon opining about "identiy politics" which is right wing code for Native 8/17/2017 - 4:09 p.m.

I gotta say Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 3:53 p.m.

Hippie-punching never gets old in the Lounge * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:04 p.m.

Well when y'all keep lobbing big old hanging curveballs right over the plate...... * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 4:08 p.m.

Not really, when it's based on a false premise, but those always get plenty of love here, too! * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:10 p.m.

Course, it's never the pitcher's fault! * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 4:14 p.m.

Each morning watching the news I remark "are you serious, this is the most pressing issue". They VOLMAN 8/17/2017 - 3:46 p.m.

RE: Each morning watching the news I remark "are you serious, this is the most pressing issue". They Top Cat 8/17/2017 - 5:29 p.m.

"They" includes fed's period, the distinction between D and R is very small IMO and THEY are VOLMAN 8/18/2017 - 8:07 a.m.

WADR, how do you know we aren't? We can multi-task and progressives made it Native 8/17/2017 - 3:11 p.m.

See my post below Chemo's for my views on this... * 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 3:24 p.m.

I did and you seem to have mischaracterized what all the progressive groups I work with are about Native 8/17/2017 - 3:39 p.m.

PETA was used as an analogy 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 4:53 p.m.

Because it is something that matters to people, I'm offended that it's on public property in my Native 8/17/2017 - 5:08 p.m.

You are only offended because it's the issue du jour. 10 years ago I bet you could care less... BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 6:22 p.m.

Do you think it's possible that Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 9:15 p.m.

For as much as Native posts, I think we get a pretty good idea on the vast array of things... BelmontGator 8/18/2017 - 10:56 a.m.

Does the timing take away from the actual issue? Mudlizard 8/18/2017 - 11:07 a.m.

Actually, that's not true, I've always found them offensive and unpatriotic but that doesn't stop Native 8/17/2017 - 8:47 p.m.

I'm sorry. Flea 8/17/2017 - 8:38 p.m.

I bet GatorDJ can recall a variation on this post from back in the 1860s * Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 7:45 p.m.

Except you do not even want "confederates" to have a voice on a diversity council Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 3:44 p.m.

THERE IS NO NEGOTIATING WITH SOMEONE WHOSE POV IS YOU ARE LESS THAN HUMAN * Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 9:21 p.m.

That is an assumption about those want to remember the Confederacy Chemosabe 8/18/2017 - 2:35 a.m.

Admin Deleted Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 10:06 p.m.

I was thinking more about the Democrats'... Thunder 8/17/2017 - 10:11 p.m.

THIS WEEK the POTUS 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 4:58 p.m.

That one has scared me more than anything because Sessions would probably do it * aubie in bham 8/18/2017 - 11:19 a.m.

No #badword#. WAR DAMN EAGLE 8/18/2017 - 11:24 a.m.

I agree with you there as well * Chemosabe 8/18/2017 - 2:37 a.m.

We talked about that too, you know and have been calling our representatives saying it's not Native 8/17/2017 - 5:11 p.m.

Oh, I believe you are doing just that... 3rdWardGator 8/18/2017 - 12:38 a.m.

Again, WE ARE FOCUSED ON ALL KINDS OF ISSUES. Trust me, we can multi-task Native 8/18/2017 - 7:53 a.m.

Yes, and I am shocked anyone would argue they do? Are you guys EFFN kidding me? Native 8/17/2017 - 3:50 p.m.

I'm a little surprised Nazis and rebs are getting so much love here myself. Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 4:05 p.m.

I think you confuse who the real fascists are Chemosabe 8/18/2017 - 5:56 a.m.

I try and give people the benefit of the doubt and they rarely Native 8/17/2017 - 4:07 p.m.

I don't equate pro-statue as racist Flea 8/17/2017 - 4:03 p.m.

RE: I don't equate pro-statue as racist Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 9:24 p.m.

I'm sorry, I must have missed the statues honoring Benedict Arnold. The fact that these were Native 8/17/2017 - 4:07 p.m.

To remind us of our history, warts and all. Thunder 8/17/2017 - 8:59 p.m.

Read the Kaplan link above, there's a way to remember our "ugly history" without glorifying it * Native 8/17/2017 - 9:01 p.m.

I don't. I posted earlier this week where I stand. Flea 8/17/2017 - 4:30 p.m.

What is there to hear that we haven't heard before? They are the last gasp of our racist past Native 8/17/2017 - 4:53 p.m.

Damn, I wish I knew all we had to do was tear down a few statues to erase racism.... the phenomenon 8/17/2017 - 7:27 p.m.

Who ever claimed that? But leaving up was nothing more than a Jim Crow tactic certainly won't Native 8/17/2017 - 8:46 p.m.

Yep that will solve all our problems with race. All be on equal footing now. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 7:50 p.m.

There is a statue to Benedict Arnold at Saratoga NP. Great place to visit. * BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 4:19 p.m.

And is it honoring him or does it portray him as the traitor he was? Native 8/17/2017 - 4:24 p.m.

It does neither . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 6:47 p.m.

He was actually one of the best battlefield generals we had. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 4:21 p.m.

And he was a rebel. But he was a rebel for the winning cause so he's good. BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 4:26 p.m.

Most people do recognize the differences between a war for American independence and a war Native 8/17/2017 - 4:29 p.m.

Yeah, key word, "had." :) * Flea 8/17/2017 - 4:28 p.m.

Oh well, alrightie then! * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:25 p.m.

Because they are American citizens and have as much right to participate in our society as everyone * Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 3:52 p.m.

I reject messages of hatred and biotry. America should have put a stop to romanticizing their rebel Native 8/17/2017 - 4:02 p.m.

Americans don't wave Nazi and confederate flags, so I don't know who you're talking about. * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 4:01 p.m.

That is not in the Constitution Chemosabe 8/18/2017 - 5:54 a.m.

The Dukes of Hazzard are not part of Americana? * yt 8/17/2017 - 4:03 p.m.

LOL! No, it was a television comedy. * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 4:07 p.m.

An American television comedy or a white supremacist television comedy? yt 8/17/2017 - 4:08 p.m.

CBS. Other shows on CBS were The Andy Griffins show, green Acres, Petticoat junction... Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 4:20 p.m.

LOL * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:08 p.m.

I can't believe I have to debate or explain this. * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:02 p.m.

I believe they want you to be more sensitive to their hate group beliefs. You meanie! * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 4:11 p.m.

Maybe if you had a more diverse diversity council you'd understand our POV better. :) * Flea 8/17/2017 - 4:05 p.m.

Nope. Everybody has to believe exactly what I believe or they are horrible people... yt 8/17/2017 - 3:55 p.m.

Sounds exactly like Drumpf adorers today. * Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:15 p.m.

There are absolutely Drumpf Orthodox folks. No question... yt 8/17/2017 - 4:18 p.m.

I've been saying the same for a while. I call them the purity police, those who can't ever Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:25 p.m.

I appreciate people who can appreciate the gray. Not gray in the sense of Confederate... yt 8/17/2017 - 4:31 p.m.

As a conservative Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 3:08 p.m.

EXACTLY...I call it the PETA effect below 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 3:23 p.m.

The statues aren't hurting anybody because at least one person is... Thunder 8/17/2017 - 9:19 p.m.

What you're advocating is pragmatism... yt 8/17/2017 - 3:38 p.m.

Great take. * 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 5:03 p.m.

Again, there's that broad brush, the candidate I'm working for is a vet and small business owner Native 8/17/2017 - 3:41 p.m.

Here it is again! WHAT A LOAD OF CRAP atlzamgator 8/17/2017 - 5:29 p.m.

I understand where you are coming from, it's easy to be cynical but Native 8/17/2017 - 5:42 p.m.

Global Warming 10EC 8/17/2017 - 3:27 p.m.

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The money has been raised to move the monument in downtown Tampa Native 8/17/2017 - 2:19 p.m.

Tampa should save themselves time and money Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 8:50 p.m.

They are indeed suing but I doubt the can stop the momentum now * Native 8/17/2017 - 8:56 p.m.

Dems looking to make a splash in the mid terms atlzamgator 8/17/2017 - 3:54 p.m.

Does that mean you accept the bargain I offered? * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 5:05 p.m.

I say municipalities should auction these things off.... JimG8R 8/17/2017 - 2:30 p.m.

I like it! * Native 8/17/2017 - 2:54 p.m.

Heaven forbid there is diversity on the Diversity Council. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 2:27 p.m.

Grin :) * chigatorbri 8/17/2017 - 4:19 p.m.

"Gentlemen. You can't fight in here. This is the War Room!" * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 3:18 p.m.

You think that is a POV that needs to be considered? I don't see why we should Native 8/17/2017 - 2:44 p.m.

Why have a diversity council if you're only interested in POV with which you agree? * Flea 8/17/2017 - 2:56 p.m.

It's not about agreement, it's about the fact they are glorifying a "lost cause" of Native 8/17/2017 - 3:06 p.m.

The Germans, Poles and Czechs allowed many of the Nazi concentration camps to stand. BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 3:33 p.m.

The Czechs expelled the Germans after the war Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 3:56 p.m.

If you go to Russia, you'll see lots of Soviet stuff still up... yt 8/17/2017 - 3:58 p.m.

A more apt comparison would be Romanov statuary * Dawgspeare 8/18/2017 - 11:15 a.m.

That's true. Almost one-to-one... yt 8/18/2017 - 11:34 a.m.

So is that our standard for behavior now, be like Russia? * Native 8/17/2017 - 10:33 p.m.

They did as memorials but did not allow the proliferation of swastikas and other Nazi symbols * Native 8/17/2017 - 3:36 p.m.

In fact, Nazi symbols, salutes, and swastikas are illegal in Germany. Those laws are vigorously Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 3:53 p.m.

Always some kooks claiming we don't understand the symbols . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 4:19 p.m.

It is also a Native American symbol. As always, context matters. Display one in Berlin, and there i Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:34 p.m.

Good thing Native Americans don't have to worry about jail for using it. * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 4:36 p.m.

Context. * Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 5:12 p.m.

so if I decide to use it in my signature, you'll have no objections? * FLVOL 8/17/2017 - 6:12 p.m.

BS. Those laws are not vigorously enforced. I lived in Leipzig and there were plenty of skinheads.. BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 4:13 p.m.

I call BS on that claim. * Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:27 p.m.

Sorry, but some of us have lived in foreign countries and see things with our own eyes. BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 4:44 p.m.

I just returned from a month in Europe...you are correct. * LAGator 8/17/2017 - 6:32 p.m.

I checked with my sources in Germany. Das ist richtig. * DW 8/17/2017 - 7:19 p.m.

Beach is correct it is a law, are you really going to argue now in favor of skinheads? * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:22 p.m.

You should improve your reading comprehension skills. I never said it wasn't a law. It's just... BelmontGator 8/17/2017 - 4:38 p.m.

There's nothing wrong with my reading skills, enforcement isn't either of our points * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:51 p.m.

Which is why two dumbass drunks were arrested for giving the Nazi salute. Chinese tourists. Had to Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:31 p.m.

Yep * Native 8/17/2017 - 4:51 p.m.

See, for you, the statues glorify slavery and are repugnant. Not everyone agrees with that. Flea 8/17/2017 - 3:14 p.m.

Uh-huh and I'm pretty non-apologetic about that. I don't think theirs is a side that Native 8/17/2017 - 3:38 p.m.

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protesters going after Teddy and Christopher... it is a few months ago but groups really want to peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 2:18 p.m.

Colombus was in fact a brutal oppressor and slave trader. He wasn't even the first European to set Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:00 p.m.

Snopes says .. .not true atlzamgator 8/17/2017 - 3:57 p.m.

Actually is says "OUTDATED" . . . it did happen. Last year. * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 4:04 p.m.

There you go with those pesky facts again. Google is our friend. More people should use it. * Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 4:02 p.m.

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Steve Bannon interview. You guys gotta read this... yt 8/17/2017 - 2:16 p.m.

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Laguna Beach residents, always the model, intend to ignore the planned racist rally on Sunday... LAGator 8/17/2017 - 1:41 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/17/2017 - 1:42 p.m.

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I bet they could get some... 3rdWardGator 8/17/2017 - 3:01 p.m.

Wouldn't be surprised if several make appearances..I think Saturday's rally is going to be huge... * LAGator 8/17/2017 - 3:17 p.m.

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Who is at fault for this death? Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 12:53 p.m.

Carter. Report says cops found a shell casing in his yard indicating that VOLMAN 8/17/2017 - 1:11 p.m.

Plus, self-defense or not once Carter goes to Jennings porch, stands over him and shoots VOLMAN 8/17/2017 - 1:34 p.m.

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Have my own criticism of trump today. Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 12:32 p.m.

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The Paradox of Intolerance Native 8/17/2017 - 11:14 a.m.

As defined by Popper . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 11:30 a.m.

RE: As defined by Native Native 8/17/2017 - 11:47 a.m.

RE: As defined by Native Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 11:54 a.m.

Of course, but I'm pretty sure Dr. King believed in self-defense if necessary * Native 8/17/2017 - 12:38 p.m.

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FWIW, I don't agree with this take, but this guy knows Donnie better than I do.... BBG 8/17/2017 - 11:12 a.m.

It would have to be earth shattering for him to resign. * chigatorbri 8/17/2017 - 11:28 a.m.

Agree. I think he has to know the noose is tightening. Once Manafort flips, he's done. * Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 11:38 a.m.

I don't think he would ever resign under any circumstances. * BBG 8/17/2017 - 11:39 a.m.

I agree. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 12:51 p.m.

He won't. He will continue to blame everyone but himself. * Beachmaster 8/17/2017 - 12:01 p.m.

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The Politics of Pointlessness....

yt 8/17/2017 - 11:06 a.m.

"Everything is a selfie" .....nailed it. * VOLMAN 8/17/2017 - 11:25 a.m.

Pay wall * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 11:11 a.m.

Copyright infringement... yt 8/17/2017 - 11:17 a.m.

^^^ * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 11:16 a.m.

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IV, here's The Hill's reporting on that "problematic" Nation DNC hack article Native 8/17/2017 - 11:00 a.m.

Don't think I believe everything I read/hear. I take everything with at least a dash of salt. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 11:45 a.m.

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Small sample size, but Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 10:52 a.m.

He's reminding me of a poker player who is in the hole and just won't stop betting... Bleeding Maroon and White 8/17/2017 - 11:12 a.m.

Yes. It's called being on tilt. * Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 12:56 p.m.

His pathology won't allow that. * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 11:48 a.m.

Yep, yep, yep. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 11:29 a.m.

So he's like Ed Norton in Rounders :) * chigatorbri 8/17/2017 - 11:16 a.m.

More like Ed Norton in Primal Fear. Or more like a less self-aware Ed Norton in American History X. * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 2:30 p.m.

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LOL! Well I guess that's fair. :-) * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 10:54 a.m.

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Austria is beautiful Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 9:39 a.m.

When I go I'm staying away from Vienna, mostly interested in Salzburg where Native 8/17/2017 - 10:56 a.m.

Salzburg is nice but very touristy Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 1:52 p.m.

When will you realize, Vienna waits for you? * Dawgzilla 8/17/2017 - 1:40 p.m.

Austria, eh? Put another shrimp on the barbie, mate! * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 10:32 a.m.

Has a similar experience with my hotel in Vienna by the airport. MIAUTIGER 8/17/2017 - 10:26 a.m.

My oldest son took a trip there for snowboarding while stationed in Germany. The pics Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 9:45 a.m.

It is beautiful Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 9:56 a.m.

That is easy to dispute with your credit card company. * 10EC 8/17/2017 - 10:59 a.m.

Well, got the hotel fee back down Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 10:12 a.m.

I only stay in Hilton properties. Never had an issue worldwide * 10EC 8/17/2017 - 11:03 a.m.

This was a Hilton Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 1:53 p.m.

I would report him to Hilton. * 10EC 8/17/2017 - 2:33 p.m.

after she upgraded me to a penthouse suite? Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 3:05 p.m.

You heard a manager try to cheat you? Yes, I would report them. They will just 10EC 8/17/2017 - 3:13 p.m.

Now I have to find a way home. Airberlin went bankrupt Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 3:10 p.m.

Delta and its partners for me. InvestiGator 8/17/2017 - 9:46 p.m.

I use my Chase Marriott card for hotel stays. More points and disputing with Marriott is easier.. InvestiGator 8/17/2017 - 2:57 p.m.

If we stay any length of time, we tend to rent apartments or houses... yt 8/17/2017 - 11:43 a.m.

we do too but this is for a single night before flying home * Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 1:54 p.m.

I do this ias well but with Hyatt. Makes life very easy. * chigatorbri 8/17/2017 - 11:21 a.m.

Marriott Platinum InvestiGator 8/17/2017 - 11:34 a.m.

Wish Hilton had this. I have been diamond for last 5 years. * 10EC 8/17/2017 - 12:41 p.m.

RE: Wish Hilton had this. I have been diamond for last 5 years. InvestiGator 8/17/2017 - 2:53 p.m.

Nice! * chigatorbri 8/17/2017 - 11:39 a.m.

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A divided nation is what Trump (and lots of other dictators) want.

BBG 8/17/2017 - 9:29 a.m.

I posted a 1947 video from the military about this very thing a couple of weeks ago. * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 9:50 a.m.

This isn't a recent development. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 9:46 a.m.

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Police Unions backing protest laws in many states . . .

Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:28 a.m.

That's not a surprise. Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 9:46 a.m.

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Vice reporter confirms she found no "very fine people" among the Neo-Nazis

Native 8/17/2017 - 9:24 a.m.

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White Nationalists Are Still Losing Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:10 a.m.

Are they big enough to even be considered a voting bloc? yt 8/17/2017 - 9:56 a.m.

When were they ever winning? * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 9:33 a.m.

I think the last sentence is what is going on. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 9:26 a.m.

We'll see. I hope he's right. They certainly feel like this is a rebirth for them. Jethro 8/17/2017 - 9:44 a.m.

It's disheartening that so many of those participating were young - 20-30 year olds Flea 8/17/2017 - 10:08 a.m.

The fact that they don't appear to be getting this from parents but peers is concerning as well. Jethro 8/17/2017 - 11:08 a.m.

From middle school on, the biggest influence on kids is their peer group... yt 8/17/2017 - 12:10 p.m.

Good point. It's like they're rebelling from their parents by rejecting enlightened morality. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 11:18 a.m.

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AP FAct Check, that viral photo of anti-fa battling a cop is FAKE NEWS! Native 8/17/2017 - 8:48 a.m.

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In case you had any doubts, the Daily Stormer is now being hosted on Russian servers * Native 8/17/2017 - 8:41 a.m.

again, I think there may be legal issues out there... peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 9:43 a.m.

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The science behind "why outing people from pics is a really stupid and dangerous idea". UFNY 8/17/2017 - 8:35 a.m.

There is no way I'm going to make Klansman, or neonazi's life more comfortable. Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 9:28 a.m.

And in this lust you are willing to make an innocent white person's life less comfortable? * Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:40 a.m.

There is no innocent klansman, neonazi, or white nationalist. * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 9:47 a.m.

The point of the article is that you CANNOT tell the difference Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:49 a.m.

I read your posts, you think we're being unfair to white people if they're mislabeled. It happens. * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 11:02 a.m.

Your PS is so true * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 10:32 a.m.

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I agree with the Tampa Bay Times on this editorial.... peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 8:05 a.m. Starred by 3 People

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cost of security has to be an important factor * Coupe De VOL 8/17/2017 - 11:55 a.m.

The author was probably a nole. * Lava Lizard 8/17/2017 - 9:37 a.m.

I don't have a problem with UF not allowing it Chemosabe 8/17/2017 - 9:32 a.m.

Idealism is easy from the cheap seats. * Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 8:39 a.m.

Front lines. * atlzamgator 8/17/2017 - 10:49 a.m.

agreed Jean... I am sure President Fuch was under seige and I can opine peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 9:34 a.m.

And silence is complicity . . . or so I'm told. So you would recommend, drunken blackout? * Wayne 8/17/2017 - 8:58 a.m.

I guess I would recommend what he did. As I understand it, what Spencer and his crowd Jean Voljean 8/17/2017 - 9:48 a.m.

It's not the University's mission to provide crowd control for this event. WAR DAMN EAGLE 8/17/2017 - 10:28 a.m.

and if it costs $5M for the State of FL, that's acceptable? * atlzamgator 8/17/2017 - 10:50 a.m.

that would be part of the cost of the permit to be paid by the kooks... as long as the projected peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 2:12 p.m.

I was against Auburn not hosting him . . . Myxaxter 8/17/2017 - 9:57 a.m.

it will be an interesting ruling fo sure * peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 10:31 a.m.

Sorry, but they are wrong and the Times editorial board has taken a disturbing right turn of late Native 8/17/2017 - 8:12 a.m.

The popularity of a decision does not dictate whether it was the right decision Flea 8/17/2017 - 8:21 a.m.

The editorial is wrong, misses key facts and the board should be rebuked atlzamgator 8/17/2017 - 9:10 a.m.

Good post, I agree with pretty much everything you said. * Flea 8/17/2017 - 9:35 a.m.

yes their crap is protected speech, but no, no, no, does the taxpayer peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 9:25 a.m.

Just pointing out that the alums I'm seeing on social media overwhelming have Fuchs' back Native 8/17/2017 - 8:27 a.m.

And is often the wrong decision, rights-wise. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 8:26 a.m.

But not in this case, as UF students also have rights not to be threatened by terrorists * Native 8/17/2017 - 8:28 a.m.

I ain't afraid of no kooky klansman * peabody hall 8/17/2017 - 10:32 a.m.

I'm more than willing to stand up to them, but UF hosting them would have been Native 8/17/2017 - 10:49 a.m.

Actually, no one has a right to not be threatened. UFNY 8/17/2017 - 8:36 a.m.

And why would UF reward threats with a venue? It is crazy to expect UF to do anything different than Native 8/17/2017 - 8:42 a.m.

Different topic entirely. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 8:58 a.m.

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Another reporter on the ground in Charlottesville says Trump was wrong about violence from the left Native 8/17/2017 - 7:44 a.m.

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He's tweeting. * GatorDJ 8/17/2017 - 6:50 a.m.

RE: He's tweeting. Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 7:26 a.m.

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Great, traitor Congressman Dana Rohrbacher (R-Russia) meeting with Assange Native 8/16/2017 - 11:50 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/17/2017 - 7:04 a.m.

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RE: Great, traitor Congressman Dana Rorbacher (R-Russia) meeting with Assange Studegater 8/17/2017 - 3:15 a.m.

I don't disagree, but it doesn't excuse Rohrbacker's behavior * Native 8/17/2017 - 7:04 a.m.

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SHG nails it if you ask me. Drumpf is not a racist in the same way he's not a liar Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:18 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/16/2017 - 10:21 p.m.

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I worked for a guy that fits this description exactly my last year I was at Fort Campbell, so I FLVOL 8/17/2017 - 9:53 a.m.

"I completely agree with those that claim that Trump is fit to serve as the POTUS" BBG 8/17/2017 - 10:56 a.m.

no, why do you ask? * FLVOL 8/17/2017 - 11:20 a.m.

I don't understand the point * BBG 8/17/2017 - 11:26 a.m.

RE: I don't understand the point FLVOL 8/17/2017 - 1:50 p.m.

Pretty similar to what many have been saying... * Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 8:59 a.m.

Far more plausible than any other description I've heard of him. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 7:52 a.m.

And likely very similar personality pathology to some historically bad dudes * BBG 8/17/2017 - 8:05 a.m.

Bad hombres * chigatorbri 8/17/2017 - 8:38 a.m.

Exactly * Wayne 8/17/2017 - 7:23 a.m.

NYTimes article by Thrush & Haberman yesterday dropped this tidbit Native 8/16/2017 - 11:09 p.m.

I truly do not believe he is a racist, just as Scott says in my linked poast Hobbes 8/17/2017 - 7:19 a.m.

I think you give him too much credit, he may care about Trump most but he doesn't really Native 8/17/2017 - 7:23 a.m.

I am not clear. I didn't mean to say he cared about Drumpf "most" Hobbes 8/17/2017 - 7:45 a.m.

I can certainly believe that it reinforces his OWN personal beliefs. Considering his dad's history Native 8/17/2017 - 7:48 a.m.

I mean, come on...Trump's own attorney just got busted forwarding an email that defended southern Native 8/17/2017 - 8:31 a.m.

Drumpf is completely amoral; he can't recognize racism. Only those that like him & those that don't Hobbes 8/17/2017 - 1:12 p.m.

Jonathan Chait: Trump's aides tried to conceal his racist beliefs Native 8/17/2017 - 7:39 a.m.

His father was arrested at a Klan rally. I honestly think he doesn't know any better. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:56 p.m.

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My question about taking down historical monuments in the United States: InvestiGator 8/16/2017 - 10:00 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/16/2017 - 10:04 p.m.

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If not now, when? gatorlaw71 8/17/2017 - 9:34 a.m.

Racial tension is at an all time high post civil rights movement. That's why. * JimG8R 8/17/2017 - 9:21 a.m.

Ahem. Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 8:52 a.m.

Trump has managed to bungle this into a partisan issue, he could have put this to bed on Saturday * Dawgspeare 8/17/2017 - 9:13 a.m.

No. Would it have helped....some. It was going to used in elections regardless. It always is. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 9:33 a.m.

Trump is admittedly in a huge opinion hole, but speaking for the nation should have bumped approval Dawgspeare 8/17/2017 - 12:31 p.m.

why were most of them erected when they were? Booty Faulked 8/17/2017 - 12:22 a.m.

Why not now ? The time has never been better. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:45 p.m.

Better late than never. * Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:20 p.m.

It's all about gaining power for the dem party trying to make a splash in the midterms. * Inspector Vol 8/16/2017 - 10:17 p.m.

Tell y'all what. If this isn't used on the campaign trail during the midterms I'll say I was wrong. Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 6:37 a.m.

No one wants to play? * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 12:23 p.m.

No, it really started to bubble after the Charleston church shooting * Dawgspeare 8/17/2017 - 8:40 a.m.

IMO it started after Trayvon and Obama inserting himself into it. There was an address provided VOLMAN 8/17/2017 - 1:16 p.m.

That seems to be a popular opinion on the right. I don't think it has any merit and it's still Native 8/17/2017 - 3:45 p.m.

Zimmerman as a man is a failure, however it was decided in court that the evidence VOLMAN 8/17/2017 - 4:19 p.m.

Some. The furor we have now is tainted by political ambition, or has been co-opted. * Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 8:54 a.m.

Not really - the KKK and Neonazis have been feeling their oats since the election Dawgspeare 8/17/2017 - 9:09 a.m.

Those conversations I have no issue with and as stated down the board the removal of Inspector Vol 8/17/2017 - 9:31 a.m.

Lol. Good one. * BBG 8/16/2017 - 10:53 p.m.

IKR ? You couldn't make this stuff up. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:57 p.m.

Deer lowered! That's not even a consideration Native 8/16/2017 - 10:23 p.m.

Inspector Vol would it KILL YOU to do say 10 minutes of google work? Jeez atlzamgator 8/16/2017 - 10:38 p.m.

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Man is POTUS going to be sore about this: Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 9:55 p.m.

Don could take back the title with a simple two word tweet BBG 8/16/2017 - 10:35 p.m.

That gets a star! * Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 10:46 p.m.

So true! * Native 8/16/2017 - 10:46 p.m.

To add to that it appears his entire military is turning against him. Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 10:12 p.m.

Cheer away. InvestiGator 8/16/2017 - 10:18 p.m.

I will cheer moral integrity in any form. * Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 4:53 a.m.

But ridicule it if anyone considers it a guardrail. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 6:53 a.m.

I think you're continuing to miss the point, here... Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 7:14 a.m.

Strawman inside. UFNY 8/17/2017 - 7:19 a.m.

Then you haven't been paying attention * gatorlaw71 8/17/2017 - 9:38 a.m.

I have, closely. And looking past the immediate hysteria. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 10:30 a.m.

No one is hysterical. We are outraged, but so are most paying the slightest bit of attention * Native 8/17/2017 - 11:04 a.m.

If only we could all align ourselves the The Correct Viewpoint. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 11:07 a.m.

You seem to be able to discern it so that you can adopt the absolute opposite position. Jethro 8/17/2017 - 11:17 a.m.

Incorrect. I disagree that such a viewpoint exists. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 11:31 a.m.

Once again, this isn't argument, this is merely contradiction. * Jethro 8/17/2017 - 1:49 p.m.

Incorrect again. Any argument is a contradiction. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 2:26 p.m.

I'm glad your position has evolved since our numerous exchanges during the election. Kudos. * Mudlizard 8/17/2017 - 7:23 a.m.

Ah, but esteemed Grasshopper, it is you who has begun to listen. * UFNY 8/17/2017 - 7:49 a.m.

Boy you really missed my point about the cracker brigade having to go up against our military. * Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 10:45 p.m.

We don't, but we are in dangerous times when the military has to rebuke the CIC for his Native 8/16/2017 - 10:27 p.m.

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Well there's reality, and then there's the stuff some southerners say to rewrite history. Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 9:18 p.m.

It's more of the "Lost Cause" revisionist bullsh!t. Nothing but propaganda, which found Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:14 p.m.

I guess this movement could be called a lib-lash. * Inspector Vol 8/16/2017 - 9:52 p.m.

No, it couldn't. * Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 9:58 p.m.

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Steve Bannon comes out from the shadows and gives a frank interview. . . . Top Cat 8/16/2017 - 8:31 p.m.

Word is McMaster wants his insane ass gone. I'll bet on the general, but it won't be quick. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 9:02 p.m.

RE: Word is McMaster wants his insane ass gone. I'll bet on the general, but it won't be quick. Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:29 p.m.

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I told you this guy is as bad, if not worse, than Trump and he's not even trying to hide it. Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 8:31 p.m.

It's been obvious for a while. Far more dangerous than Drumpf. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 9:04 p.m.

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Figures. Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 8:11 p.m.

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Bill Kristol on the GOP Native 8/16/2017 - 6:31 p.m.

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Slate's Dahlia Lithwick (a Charlottesville native) on what she observed from counter-protesters Native 8/16/2017 - 5:35 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/16/2017 - 5:36 p.m.

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The false equivalence narrative from the right was totally predictable. It has zero merit. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 8:10 p.m.

for argument' sake let's say the counter protestors were loud rude violent blocked traffic paraded iPhoneHobbes 8/16/2017 - 5:49 p.m.

Which brings up a question. If we have free speech why do we need a permit? * Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 7:45 p.m.

RE: Which brings up a question. If we have free speech why do we need a permit? Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 9:19 p.m.

Because speech is limited as to time, place, and scope. Free speech is not an unlimited right. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 8:07 p.m.

I think we differ. But maybe not. Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 9:20 p.m.

Fair enough. I'm sure you recognize that incitement to violence is not protected, and the old Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:19 p.m.

I disagree. I don't think even Holmes believed that after a while Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:38 p.m.

I think we differ. But maybe not. InvestiGator 8/16/2017 - 9:48 p.m.

I think this is what Beach was getting at, if so then we don't differ (see page two about permits) Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:10 p.m.

I do not agree that content may be prohibited. But the time, place, and manner of delivery may. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:21 p.m.

Then we don't differ. * Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:29 p.m.

I am a yuuuge William O. Douglas fan. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:25 p.m.

Spoke too soon, yes we do. :) Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:30 p.m.

You're just saying that 'cause he's from Bammy :) * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:51 p.m.

We don't need one to protest in Hillsboough County as long as we stay on the sidewalks and don't Native 8/16/2017 - 8:05 p.m.

That first amendment comes in handy, doesn't it. * Hobbes 8/16/2017 - 10:11 p.m.

Yes, but as I noted, there are some limits to it. BTW, I also saw the President Gropenfuher was Native 8/17/2017 - 7:06 a.m.

RE: for argument' sake let's say the counter protestors were loud rude violent blocked traffic para Top Cat 8/16/2017 - 6:45 p.m.

The Pacer uses its power only for Good. iPhoneHobbes 8/16/2017 - 6:56 p.m.

A pink prius, hobbes . . . a pink prius. Myxaxter 8/16/2017 - 6:38 p.m.

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our Mayor in clowntown found a confederate monument on the grounds of the peabody hall 8/16/2017 - 5:31 p.m.

Tear it down, it's not a confederate museum. * Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 5:59 p.m.

Remove it. Maybe some private land could be found to display it. No place for it on Capitol grounds * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 6:05 p.m.

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Reason agrees with the hobbes/beach/atlz analysis . . . with a few quibbles here and there . . . Myxaxter 8/16/2017 - 5:00 p.m.

RE: Reason agrees with the hobbes/beach/atlz analysis . . . is that a tear in Iggy's eye? iPhoneHobbes 8/16/2017 - 5:54 p.m.

I responded . . . Myxaxter 8/16/2017 - 6:12 p.m.

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Nicolle Wallace just talked to the Vice reporter. And BTW, that one POS she hung out with Native 8/16/2017 - 4:46 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/16/2017 - 4:47 p.m.

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Lock him up ! * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 8:12 p.m.

Yeah, those guys like to talk the talk, but when the #badword# gets real they go all to pieces. * Lava Lizard 8/16/2017 - 5:55 p.m.

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Colorado faithless electors file suit over state law dictating how they must vote. Flea 8/16/2017 - 3:28 p.m. Edited by Author on 8/16/2017 - 4:02 p.m.

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Interesting test case. Never liked those laws, but can see why they exist. Maybe it's time to go Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 6:08 p.m.

Would require an amendment, so I doubt that happens any time in the near future. Flea 8/16/2017 - 9:19 p.m.

Agreed. The time to discuss has never been more ripe. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 10:26 p.m.

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Just gonna be really honest here. My health has hit a rough patch. But right now, I literally LOL'ed GatorJamie 8/16/2017 - 2:38 p.m. A HOF Post

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Hope you're soon back to the pre-illness Jamie I know. You'll kick ass again. * Beachmaster 8/16/2017 - 6:10 p.m.

Whenever you need an argument, a laugh or a sense of the absurd, we're here. * UFNY 8/16/2017 - 3:37 p.m.

Wishing you the best Jamie. * Inspector Vol 8/16/2017 - 2:53 p.m.

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