making AR-15 type weapons tougher to legally obtain?  I am not taking a position here, merely looking for a better understanding of each POV.

1. As horrifying and heinous as these mass shooting crimes are, the vast majority of gun murders in this country are NOT committed with assault rifles. Those stats don't even include suicides which are also overwhelmingly committed by handguns. 

2. What we call assault rifles in this country are some of the best weapons ever made for farmers and ranchers to use in basic farming and ranching operations. Yeah agriculture might not employee as many as it used to with how much science and technology has made it easier. But it is still an imperative industry that we need. And the guys and gals that do it need assault rifles.      

3. The US military has an extreme challenge in modern times finding young men and women capable of service. It takes almost a full enlistment to mold most young recruits into a real effective competent soldier. Many young well intended young people serve honorably but never quite make the grade. Most of the best ones who are combat ready sooner rather than later - many of whom make a career out of it - are the country boys and girls. The American Sniper movie documents the type. In a world where almost all our political leaders agree that we need more special forces. Then we desperately need more kids who grow up shooting AR-15 type weapons like Chris Kyle did. 

4. Getting assault rifles out of the hands of committed criminals is near impossible in the United States for many reasons. We did ban 'em for 10 years from 1994-2004. Yet there was still plenty of firepower readily available everywhere. The expert research indicates that ban was completely ineffectual. I understand that gun bans have been extremely effective in reducing violence in some exclusive isolated singular societies and cultures like Australia and in western Europe. But I submit to you that the United States is actually much more like Brazil, Mexico, or South Africa in every cultural and historical aspect than any of those places. We actually do a pretty good job of controlling guns and violence considering who and what we really are - a hugely diverse open and free society. We can't become Norway tomorrow anymore than you and I could wake up tomorrow as Nole fans. And why would we want to be Noles or Norway anyway. As much as waking up to news like we did yesterday sucks, a free, open, and diverse society sure beats the alternative.

5. I have been a shooter for my entire life since my WWII veteran old school American as apple pie Grandpa came over on my very first Christmas and put a shotgun in my crib. He was likely just trying to send a clear message to my dope smoking hippy parents. That old 20 gauge still hangs on my wall and means the world to me. That said, I'd turn in every gun I own to be destroyed tomorrow if it could guarantee no more Orlandos. It doesn't work that way here in the United States though. It's been proven time and again. What gun legislation is effective in achieving in the United States is making more young disadvantaged men into criminals with worse records than our marijuana laws, shutting down one of the last bastions of American manufacturing greatness, and eliminating one of our first and foremost civil rights as intended by Thomas Jefferson for the law-abiding citizen. I don't see how any good liberal who really thinks about it could ever be in favor of any of that. 

May God be with the victims and families in Orlando, and with this great nation as we search for the real legitimate answers to end the mass shooting evil. There is never an easy answer to such complex problems. But America has conquered worse evils than this!.....