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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 6/13/2016 - 1:01 p.m. says: ( 252 views , 10 likes )

"We act like the benefactors and defenders of the classical liberal nation we are . . . "

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So, reading through the threads I see a lot of finger pointing but no possible solutions.

So what does the US do? Do we go back to the Middle East? Do we ban Muslims from entering the country? Do we start putting restrictions on Muslims movements in this country?

What is a realistic approach?

I'm just throwing the question out there. No strawman arguments, just what would anybody here propose?

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We do not go abroad seeking monsters to destroy . . . nor do we let those within our own borders pique us to irrational fear, bloodthirsty revenge or political axe-grinding.

We accept the blessings of liberty with grace and dignity as we should with the vulnerability it creates. 

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