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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 10/18/2016 - 11:12 a.m. says: ( 298 views , 15 likes )

"Oh my what shall the people do . . . The pretense of knowledge . . . "

Edited by Author at 10/18/2016 - 1:40 p.m.
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When facts don't matter, can democracy survive?

Greatest threat to our nation, IMO.

The problem with elevating yourself by tearing down the existing authoritative institutions is that once you succeed, you've established a road map for others to tear you down, too. There will always be someone waiting in the wings with an even juicier conspiracy theory, an even zanier hidden truth, an even more intricate data-unskewing method — and there's no longer any authority left to debunk any of it.

This is how a democracy crumbles: not with a bang, but with data trutherism.

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First, I'd like to begin quoting from Hayek's Nobel acceptance speech which is ever appropriate for this moment:

If man is not to do more harm than good in his efforts to improve the social order, he will have to learn that in this, as in all other fields where essential complexity of an organized kind prevails, he cannot acquire the full knowledge which would make mastery of the events possible. He will therefore have to use what knowledge he can achieve, not to shape the results as the craftsman shapes his handiwork, but rather to cultivate a growth by providing the appropriate environment, in the manner in which the gardener does this for his plants. There is danger in the exuberant feeling of ever growing power which the advance of the physical sciences has engendered and which tempts man to try, "dizzy with success", to use a characteristic phrase of early communism, to subject not only our natural but also our human environment to the control of a human will. The recognition of the insuperable limits to his knowledge ought indeed to teach the student of society a lesson of humility which should guard him against becoming an accomplice in men's fatal striving to control society - a striving which makes him not only a tyrant over his fellows, but which may well make him the destroyer of a civilization which no brain has designed but which has grown from the free efforts of millions of individuals.

Now secondly let's dispense with this notion that this trend in distrust of government is new and totally partisan.

http://www.people-press.org/2015/11/23/1-trust-in-government-1958-2015/

Trust in government has been consistently falling thru the years . . . with the partisan aspect of it flipping depending on who controls the WH.  Dems distrust it more when Bush was in.  Pubs less when Bush was in.  That seems tribal.  But there is more going on.  As government has assumed more and more of the economy, more and more control over people's lives . . . and began to fail at the doing . . . it has become apparent to many that distrust is warranted.

Let's begin with a simple data point the government puts out . . . like this morning on NPR.  "Core inflation" is falling.  When they take out food and gas . . . the things people spend most of their money on besides static things like mortgages . . . food and gas are rising.  So in the face of RISING inflation of the things most impressed into people's buying experience we are told inflation is falling.  Now this is not some academic activity since Bernie's helicopter gets put into play based on such things.  And then of course most of the "income inequality" of which we are beaten about the head is caused by free money policies. 

Let's take another . . . unemployment.  The other of those benchmarks upon which Bernie's helicopter gets put into play (for decades it seems).  Now we are told "unemployment" is fine . . . it's back to where is was and we're peachy keen.  Well except that total employment as a % of the population has NOT recovered.  Which of these is a more realistic assessment of what is going on and what would affect the total economy?

Let's dispense with the pretense that government knows all and that all its "data" is useful or even necessary.  Let's also dispense with the notion that any other "fact" that others might obtain is somehow "shadow" unless sanctioned by government.

The "data" is used as a club to beat into submission anyone that would question the policies of the person pushing the data . . . to call into question their attempt to control.  We live in a complex world where we pretend we understand all the variables . . . it is just as dangerous to democracy to accept this Pretense of Knowledge without skepticism.

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"The authority of government, even such as I am willing to submit to — for I will cheerfully obey those who know and can do better than I, and in many things even those who neither know nor can do so well — is still an impure one: to be strictly just, it must have the sanction and consent of the governed. It can have no pure right over my person and property but what I concede to it. The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual. Even the Chinese philosopher was wise enough to regard the individual as the basis of the empire. Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen."



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