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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 10/21/2016 - 10:56 a.m. says: ( 291 views , 5 likes )

"It is self-defeating . . . "

Edited by Author at 10/21/2016 - 11:02 a.m.
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That's good evidence all right. And in every case, Conservative Americans will claim that

they are not trying to suppress votes. And in most cases they even believe it themselves.

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it is a short-term solution to their electoral problems long-term.  The better solution would be to devise a party platform that appeals to a wider swath of Americans and stick to it.  It has been noted in many circles that some groups put off by such things have a more realistic affinity to what is called "conservative" principles (even if not followed).  

It happened in Alabama . . . they want to make IDs mandatory yet they don't want to fund the places that you go to get IDs.  I'm not entirely sure they meant for that to happen . . . as our State is run so badly . . . but that was the effect. 

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"The authority of government, even such as I am willing to submit to — for I will cheerfully obey those who know and can do better than I, and in many things even those who neither know nor can do so well — is still an impure one: to be strictly just, it must have the sanction and consent of the governed. It can have no pure right over my person and property but what I concede to it. The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual. Even the Chinese philosopher was wise enough to regard the individual as the basis of the empire. Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen."



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