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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 6/22/2017 - 11:59 a.m. says: ( 379 views , 6 likes )

"Yes, your argument is "because the cop can kill you without any reprecussions . . . "

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these cases always come back to the same thing

when a police officer ask or tells you to stop doing something or to do something.....you simply stop and do it w/o question.

if people would simply do this very few if any would get shot or killed imo

when people continue to resists their requests....bad #badword# happens

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you should do what they say without question or complaint" . . .

That's probably a reasonable assertion . . . but Hobbes and Scott and Julian are not arguing what is reasonable to do given the threat of State Sanctioned Execution . . . they are arguing what SHOULD BE under in JUST SOCIETY. Even as I don't see any of the non-compliance you speak of in this case . . . the cop asked for things . . . Mr. Castile was providing them . . .

Julian's analysis holds . . . you expect a level of action by the innocent civilian that you don't expect from the cops . . . supposedly TRAINED and EXPERIENCED in these things.

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Yes, your argument is "because the cop can kill you without any reprecussions . . . Wayne 6/22/2017 - 11:59 a.m.


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