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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 12/4/2017 - 10:44 a.m. says: ( 173 views , 15 likes )

"For >20 years . . . I've made the same argument about Congress and the POTUS"

Edited by Author at 12/4/2017 - 10:53 a.m.

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Do you only read my posts?

Are you going to make me name names? There were several others here recently asking why your posts re: Trump seem somewhat willfully obtuse of the legal danger he is in right now.==============================

I've made it as it pertains to their war powers (see Irag, Afganistan, Syria, Libya . .. Clinton, Bush, Obama, Trump). I've made it as it pertains to their budgetary powers. I've made it as it pertains to their being the final arbiter of elections (see Bush v Gore). I've made it as it pertains to civil liberties (see drones, civ forf, torture). I've made it as it pertains to forcing people out of their homes and property (see Katrina).

I've made it when brilliant posters on here and elsewhere agreed with me . . . and when they thought I was an idiot. I made it right. I made it left. I made it conservative. I made it liberal.

If you and the others who would see Trump support in 20 years worth of saying that Congress needs a set of balls . . . then that is your right.

See what you wish. In 10 years, I'll still be making the same arguments about a more impotent body if they let Trump slide or can't find a political reason to remove the most obnoxious and incompetent President ever.

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"The authority of government, even such as I am willing to submit to — for I will cheerfully obey those who know and can do better than I, and in many things even those who neither know nor can do so well — is still an impure one: to be strictly just, it must have the sanction and consent of the governed. It can have no pure right over my person and property but what I concede to it. The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual. Even the Chinese philosopher was wise enough to regard the individual as the basis of the empire. Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen."

For >20 years . . . I've made the same argument about Congress and the POTUS Wayne 12/4/2017 - 10:44 a.m.


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