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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 5/22/2018 - 3:36 p.m. says: ( 262 views , 6 likes )

"RE: Instead of attacking the messenger, what specific points do you disagree with? "

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Instead of attacking the messenger, what specific points do you disagree with? *

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Two or more sides disagree on who runs the country. And they can't

settle the question through elections because they don't even agree that

elections are how you decide who's in charge. That's the basic issue

here. Who decides who runs the country? When you hate each other but

accept the election results, you have a country.

When you stop accepting election results, you have a countdown to a civil war.

Complaint:  How is it that democrats did not accept the elections?  They complained but as far as I can tell when the courts ruled they obeyed.  This author is confusing dislike of a result with not accepting the result. 

The Mueller investigation is about removing President Trump from

office and overturning the results of an election. We all know that.

Complaint:  We don't KNOW that.  I predict the dems will NOT impeach Trump because they fear the backlash.  Not unless far more comes out. 

But

it's not the first time they've done this. The first time a Republican

president was elected this century, they said he didn't really win. The

Supreme Court gave him the election. There's a pattern here.

Complaint:  There is a pattern of disliking losing close elections that are thrown into abnormal circumstances?  Shocking. 

What do sure odds of the Democrats rejecting the next Republican

president really mean? It means they don't accept the results of any

election that they don't win. It means they don't believe that transfers

of power in this country are determined by elections.

That's a civil war.

Complaint:  That's human nature.  They don't like losing.  Some partisan keep smacking about losing over and over but that's but hurt not "civil war".

There's no shooting. At least not unless you count the attempt to

kill a bunch of Republicans at a charity baseball game practice. But the

Democrats have rejected our system of government. This isn't dissent.

It's not disagreement. You can hate the other party. You can think

they're the worst thing that ever happened to the country. But then you

work harder to win the next election. When you consistently reject the

results of elections that you don't win, what you want is a

dictatorship. Your very own dictatorship.

The only legitimate exercise of power in this country, according to

Democrats, is its own. Whenever Republicans exercise power, it's

inherently illegitimate. The Democrats lost Congress. They lost the

White House. So what did they do? They began trying to run the country

through Federal judges and bureaucrats. Every time that a Federal judge

issues an order saying that the President of the United States can't

scratch his own back without his say so, that's the civil war.

Our system of government is based on The Constitution, but that's not

the system that runs this country. The Democrat's system is that any

part of government that it runs gets total and unlimited power over the

country.

Complaint:  Um what exactly was it when the pubs held up a valid SCOTUS nominee so they could get it later?  Look in the mirror dead man.

If the Democrats are in the White House, then the president can do

anything. And I mean anything. He can have his own amnesty for illegal

aliens. He can fine you for not having health insurance. His power is

unlimited. He's a dictator.

But when Republicans get into the White House, suddenly the President

can't do anything. He isn't even allowed to undo the illegal alien

amnesty that his predecessor illegally invented. A Democrat in the White

House has 'discretion' to completely decide every aspect of immigration

policy. A Republican doesn't even have the 'discretion' to reverse him.

That's how the game is played. That's how our country is run. Sad but

true, although the left hasn't yet won that particular fight.

Complaint:  What?  Article III flexed its muscle so now democrats are tyrants?  Cry me a river.

When a Democrat is in the White House, states aren't even allowed to

enforce immigration law.

Complaint:  Hey dead man, read the Constitution .  .. immigration enforcement is a federal duty not the states.

But when a Republican is in the White House,

states can create their own immigration laws.

Complaint:  You mean they are free to NOT enforce the federal laws.  Shocking I tell you.  States defying the feds.  It's enough to make me want to whistle dixie.

Under Obama, a state

wasn't allowed to go to the bathroom without asking permission. But

under Trump, Jerry Brown can go around saying that California is an

independent republic and sign treaties with other countries.

The Constitution has something to say about that.

Complaint:  BS!  Simply BS!

Whether it's Federal or State, Executive, Legislative or Judiciary,

the left moves power around to run the country. If it controls an

institution, then that institution is suddenly the supreme power in the

land. This is what I call a moving dictatorship.

Complaint:  Like pubs do when they get control?  Look in the mirror dead man.

Donald Trump has caused the Shadow Government to come out of hiding:

Professional government is a guild. Like medieval guilds. You can't

serve in if you're not a member. If you haven't been indoctrinated into

its arcane rituals. If you aren't in the club. And Trump isn't in the

club. He brought in a bunch of people who aren't in the club with him.

Now we're seeing what the pros do when amateurs try to walk in on

them. They spy on them, they investigate them and they send them to

jail. They use the tools of power to bring them down. That's not a free

country.

It's not a free country when FBI agents who support Hillary take out

an 'insurance policy' against Trump winning the election. It's not a

free country when Obama officials engage in massive unmasking of the

opposition. It's not a free country when the media responds to the other

guy winning by trying to ban the conservative media that supported him

from social media. It's not a free country when all of the above collude

together to overturn an election because the guy who wasn't supposed to

win did.

Have no doubt, we're in a civil war between conservative volunteer government and a leftist Democrat professional government.

Complaint:  It's not a free country because those big meanies are doing the same things we do when they are in power. 

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