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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 11/9/2018 - 10:15 a.m. says: ( 258 views , 5 likes )

"I would not phrase the argument that way . . . "

Edited by Author at 11/9/2018 - 10:46 a.m.

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Show me where the second amendment states that only people who "need" a gun can

own one and that these people shall only be "allowed" to own a gun of caliber and capacity for which they can demonstrate need. It's that simple. You can't stop evil by curtailing rights of law-abiding citizens unless you're willing to completely abolish the right.

I've had a G21 for 30 yrs and have killed no one and no creature.

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The 2nd has a component that let's Congress set the weapons based on "need" . . . either a militia or personal defense. There is a base minimum defined by Heller but I still think they can show where "need" can legitimately be defined by Congress.

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"The authority of government, even such as I am willing to submit to — for I will cheerfully obey those who know and can do better than I, and in many things even those who neither know nor can do so well — is still an impure one: to be strictly just, it must have the sanction and consent of the governed. It can have no pure right over my person and property but what I concede to it. The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual. Even the Chinese philosopher was wise enough to regard the individual as the basis of the empire. Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen."

I would not phrase the argument that way . . . Wayne 11/9/2018 - 10:15 a.m.


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