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Wayne Doubletree Resident (138.26.199.131) on 1/4/2019 - 10:36 a.m. says: ( 245 views , 6 likes )

"In this case . . .no . . . "

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More than one thing can be, and is, true *

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You went off on me and the article as "conflation".  When it was shown that it is a much larger group (even though I said "SOME" and the article names specific democrats) . . . indeed the heads of the progressive caucus . . . which has a significant group in the House . . . and that they are planning on scrapping the rule later . . . and that they have been assured it will not stop any legislation they want passed . . . it can't be conflation.  Indeed, it is simply the facade of paying as you go.  But since you are never wrong in any hastily tossed accusation you must now find a way to make it all be true.

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"The authority of government, even such as I am willing to submit to — for I will cheerfully obey those who know and can do better than I, and in many things even those who neither know nor can do so well — is still an impure one: to be strictly just, it must have the sanction and consent of the governed. It can have no pure right over my person and property but what I concede to it. The progress from an absolute to a limited monarchy, from a limited monarchy to a democracy, is a progress toward a true respect for the individual. Even the Chinese philosopher was wise enough to regard the individual as the basis of the empire. Is a democracy, such as we know it, the last improvement possible in government? Is it not possible to take a step further towards recognizing and organizing the rights of man? There will never be a really free and enlightened State until the State comes to recognize the individual as a higher and independent power, from which all its own power and authority are derived, and treats him accordingly. I please myself with imagining a State at least which can afford to be just to all men, and to treat the individual with respect as a neighbor; which even would not think it inconsistent with its own repose if a few were to live aloof from it, not meddling with it, nor embraced by it, who fulfilled all the duties of neighbors and fellow-men. A State which bore this kind of fruit, and suffered it to drop off as fast as it ripened, would prepare the way for a still more perfect and glorious State, which also I have imagined, but not yet anywhere seen."



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